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Katie Dalebout

Health, Well Being, Fashion & Beauty, True Crime, Mental Health, Arts, Wellness, Self-help, Self-care, Love, Personal Growth, Katie Dalebout, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.8 • 831 Ratings

Overview

Long-form conversations with a variety friends and strangers. Guests include musicians, writers, chefs, parents, painters, designers, herbalists, therapists, comedians, and actors. Here they candidly discuss how they spend their days. We cover connection, creativity, productivity, well-being, sex, love, body image, transitions, and more. Sometimes things get deep and philosophical and sometimes they are funny and light because life is both.

502 Episodes

[COMEBACKS] Your Breakdown Might Be the Best Part of the Story

This is the second episode of the COMEBACKS series, featuring Liz Tran. I loved getting to talk with her again in this new format. In this episode, Liz shares her experience with divorce, reinvention, dating, and what it actually takes to rebuild your life when the version you planned for falls apart. We talk about how loneliness can transform you when you stop trying to outrun it, the ways avoidance can masquerade as productivity, AQ (adaptability quotient), timelines, and learning to trust that your life can expand in ways you never could have planned for.

Transcribed - Published: 1 June 2026

[COMEBACKS] What Are You Waiting For? Jessica Murnane on Reinvention, Nostalgia, Aging Narratives, and more!

In this first episode of the new COMEBACKS series, I spoke with my longtime friend Jessica Murnane about reinvention, knowing when to move on, and why I tend to linger in the past too long. We talk about creative pivots, grief around letting go, and starting again—without forcing it. Jess shares how she’s built multiple careers, moved cities, why she’s not nostalgic, and the simple question she always comes back to when she’s stuck: What are you waiting for?

Transcribed - Published: 20 May 2026

It's the Little Things with Sacha Jones [RERUN]

Every year for nearly a decade, Sacha Jones has hosted the episode the last week of April. This year (2022) she outdid herself: she surprises me with questions sourced from my friends and family and a special guest joins us to host a rapid-fire round. Prior to her surprises, we cover craving focus and the through-line ends up being how the little things mean so much. I will be back on the other side of the interview next week but until then I hope this conversation offers you something, makes you laugh, or keeps you company you during your day.

Transcribed - Published: 15 May 2026

Fear Calcifying, Not Aging ft. Smiling Strange

This week I spoke with Kyle (Smiling Strange) about generations, the internet then vs. now, and how we discover music as we grow up. We talk about his process of making videos while walking around his neighborhood, why authenticity cuts through the algorithm, and how culture is shifting faster than we can keep up. It’s an eclectic conversation that moves from music to the internet to creativity to philosophy (and even economics), and it left me with a lot to ponder.

Transcribed - Published: 25 April 2026

Extreme Reactions & the Risk of Sharing Art—with Emmalea Russo, author of Vivienne

This week I spoke with Emmalea Russo about her novel Vivienne and what it means to create something that doesn’t try to make everyone comfortable.

Transcribed - Published: 13 April 2026

Pleasure, Grief, and Sleep: Rachelle Robinett on Writing Naturally

This is part two of my conversation with herbalist and writer Rachelle Robinett, recorded live in LA in a very intimate room full of friends while talking about her book Naturally. In this part, we get into our favorite themes from her book: pleasure, pain, transformation, grief, and the ways creative expression helps us process, and more.

Transcribed - Published: 27 March 2026

so here's what happened... with Sophie Ragir : )

This week is a little different: usually I’m the one asking the questions, but this time I’m on the other side. My friend Sophie had me on as the first guest to her new podcast, Late to the Party, where she interviewed me. This conversation ended up feeling surprisingly cathartic and was the most honest I’ve ever been while being recorded. She gave me a container to share and her genuine interest, thoughtful questions, and care gave me the confidence to open up about things I haven't. This episode fills in a lot of the story of what’s been happening with not only me these last several years but also tells the full story of the podcast,  from beginning to the middle, I'm still in now. Sophie’s show, Late To the Party is a perfect companion to this show, it’s for anyone who feels a little behind in love, work, or life, or is growing into something new. It was an honor to be her first guest and listen to all the episodes she's aired since.

Transcribed - Published: 19 March 2026

Desire, Dopamine, and Anticipation: Rachelle Robinett on Herbalism, Evolution and Redefining Ambition

This week I spoke with herbalist and writer Rachelle Robinett about her new book, Naturally, and some of my favorite ideas inside it: dopamine, novelty, primal motivation and strategies to regulate our nervous systems.

Transcribed - Published: 9 March 2026

The Cost of Being “Good” with Savala Nolan

This week is a conversation with attorney and writer Savala Nolan. Her new book, Good Woman, is out now. I got to read an early copy and loved it. She writes with raw honesty about making herself smaller, both literally and metaphorically, in order to be good. The 12 essays blend cultural commentary, personal experience, reportage, and history. We talked about the vulnerable process of writing about divorce, motherhood, and the importance of respecting one’s appetite in every sense.

Transcribed - Published: 3 March 2026

What’s ♥️ Got to Do With Eating? 🍽

This week, I’m joined again by emotional eating expert Tricia Nelson. This time, we discuss the intricate connection between emotional eating and romantic relationships. We talk about how emotional responsibility includes becoming aware of the ways food struggles can impact intimacy and communication in relationships.

Transcribed - Published: 13 February 2026

How to Evolve On & Offline? âś· 2026 Christine Nguyen on Pregnancy, Productivity, & Beginnings!

My close friend Christine came over on New Year’s Day and we caught up on what’s ahead. We talk about friendship, big life transitions, and the constant evolution we all experience. She’s candid about how she’s changed creatively, professionally, and personally, including navigating freelance work amid uncertainty, and her excitement about becoming a parent and how pregnancy has unexpectedly fueled her productivity. We reflect on our last interviews, what she’s learned since, and the importance of staying adaptable. She’s quietly shown me how to move through change with poise and loved getting to have a time capsule conversation of this time in her life. It's a warm, reflective conversation about staying adaptable, new beginnings and staying on nodding terms with past versions of ourselves. Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 19 January 2026

Christine Nguyen on Film, Freelance, YouTube, Style, Breakups, and more! (RERUN of Ep 193) Chrissstttiiine

*This episode originally aired in 2017. I made a new intro/ reaction to it. It's my first conversation ever with my now very dear friend. Look out for an updated conversation between us next week.  Christine went to film school and simultaneously began on YouTube when she was just 18 and has been uploading to her chanel ever since. Her videos range from home decor to film photography to make-up to design to music. We get into everything from a cultivating a career as a freelancer to recovering after a tough breakup to handling aging and body image and finding a community. We also talk about style, religion, family, travel and more. I loved meeting her and having this meandering conversation which I think you'll love too.

Transcribed - Published: 8 January 2026

Why We Eat Our Feelings (and What to Do Instead)—Tricia Nelson Explains

Why do we turn to food when we’re stressed, lonely, or overwhelmed? Author and emotional-eating expert Tricia Nelson joins me to unpack what emotional eating really is (and why it’s not about willpower). We talk about comfort, compulsion, body image, aging, and intimacy—and explore how true healing starts with feeling your emotions instead of numbing them.

Transcribed - Published: 5 December 2025

Grief, Rock Bottoms, Ruts, and Leveling Up with Jessica Gill of To Be Magnetic

This week, I talked with Jessica Gill, Chief Content Officer at To Be Magnetic, about creativity, expansion, and what it really means to feel your feelings. We got into grief, career ruts, and how doing the opposite of what you usually do can help you get unstuck and reconnect to your authentic self.

Transcribed - Published: 6 November 2025

Lacy Phillips on How To Be Magnetic (RERUN of EP 212)

This week is a conversation with Lacy Phillips, founder of To Be Magnetic. We get into emotional expansion—how to actually feel feelings instead of intellectualizing them—and the role of self-worth in making changes in our lives. We talk about what happens when we try to skip discomfort, how healing can be boring, and why slowing down is usually the fastest way forward. It was a formative conversation for me and I'm revisiting it this week in honor of her new book.

Transcribed - Published: 30 October 2025

Reactivity and the Romance Myth with Dean Spade

This week I spoke with longtime activist and author Dean Spade about the complexities of relationships and the challenges we face in a society shaped by disposability culture. We discussed the fear of being wrong in public and of conflict and feedback. He spoke about why self-help often falls short in addressing systemic issues and shared some insights from his latest book, Love in a F*cked Up World, which offers practical advice on navigating personal growth and connection in a world that often feels isolating and disconnected. I loved both the book and this conversation. Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 23 July 2025

How to Make a Space Feel Like You - with Cooper Osinski

This week, I talked to interior designer Cooper Osinski. He shared what makes a space feel personal, how he balances his style with client work, and how he developed his taste and style while navigating trends. We also discussed his intentional approach to growing an online presence on YouTube and how he stays thoughtful and constructive when offering design commentary. Cooper was as warm and inviting as the spaces he creates, and he offered heaps of practical, accessible tips—including small design fixes that make a big impact. Whether you're deep into design or just curious, he makes the world of interiors feel both approachable and fun. Let us know if you listen.

Transcribed - Published: 25 June 2025

Ambition Within Cynicism: Organizing Creative Chaos with Abbi Miller

This week, I talk to business strategist Abbi Miller about navigating pivots in both personal and professional life. Abbi was on the podcast five years ago, and her perspective on time management, which she calls Time Pessimism, is a concept I’ve found helpful ever since. Since then, much has changed for her both personally and collectively (including becoming a mom). In this episode, we catch up on everything she’s learned since then, including how to work with the muse when it strikes and how she sets up systems to support that flow. We also discuss how to deal with cynicism and find ambition again, and her strategies for effective quarterly goal-setting. Plus, Abbi gets me to open up about some of my own career changes and how I’ve been navigating them within my life. And you can hear me talk about it more on her show, where she had me on as a guest too.

Transcribed - Published: 9 June 2025

How to Choose: Erin Claire Jones on Decision Making in Career & Relationships & How Human Design Can Help

This week, I talk to Erin Claire Jones, one of the world’s leading experts in Human Design. She talks about her journey from skeptically discovering it at a party to now writing a book (How Do You Choose) about how we can use our design to make better decisions in relationships and career. Erin and I reflect on how the concepts in her new book connect to the way we navigate our lives, as well as how Human Design can be used as a tool for self-awareness, overcoming obstacles, and better communication for more harmonious relationships with others.

Transcribed - Published: 13 May 2025

Waiting for a Ride: Christopher DeLoach, Artist & Bumper Sticker Legend on the Stories That Shape Us

LA-based artist Christopher DeLoach and I talked about his path from class clown to intrepid traveler—walking the Appalachian Trail—to becoming an artist and creating the iconic bumper stickers you know and love. He tells a story of how a series of surreal encounters while hitchhiking changed him. Our conversation covers: identity, American culture, sustaining a career as an artist, superstition, doubt, belief, and even death.

Transcribed - Published: 4 April 2025

Blu Most on Creating in Community, ADHD Habits, LA Recs & More (pt 2/2)

This is the second half of my conversation with my friend Blu Most, an artist who has worked in food styling, creative direction, and event design. We get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all. If you missed part 1 last week, we talked about embracing creative cycles, the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity.

Transcribed - Published: 19 March 2025

Blu Most on Art, Money & Organizing the Chaos of Creative Careers (pt 1/2)

In this first part of my conversation with the brilliant and wildly creative Blu Most, we dive into the life of a self-proclaimed “ideas person” and explore what it means to be a jack-of-all-trades. Blu shares her experience through art, food styling, creative direction, and event design—embracing creative cycles and navigating the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment. We also get into stepping away from Instagram, marketing to niche communities, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity. Stay tuned for Part 2, where we get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, shifting towards intimate gatherings, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all.

Transcribed - Published: 12 March 2025

best lesson on love? đź’—

"What's your greatest lesson on romantic relationships?" is a question I've asked in most every episode. This week, with the help of a few favorite guests, I attempt to answer it. It's the first time in 12 years that I've ever done a brief episode... brevity is not my strong suit so don't get used to it... but I hope you like it! It features: Kristin Hanggi, Cody Cook-Parrott, Robyn Kanner, Rachelle Robinett, Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, Mari Andrew, Jon Marro, Neada Deters, and Yoke Lore.

Transcribed - Published: 21 February 2025

best advice on breakups, grief, & heartbreak!

In honor of Valentine’s Day it’s an episode about what I know best: romantic love… just kidding it’s about breakups! It's a variety show from 2019 where I compiled all of the times (up until then) I spoke with guests on how heartbreak, grief, and sadness can lead to growth. I play some of my favorite clips from my conversations with founder of To Be Magnetic, Lacy Phillips, herbalist at Supernatural, Rachelle Robinett, author Sara Avant Stover, dancer and writer Cody Cook-Parrott, illustrator Mari Andrew, Yoke Lore, and more ... it sounds like a bummer of an episode but it was actually optimistic and even dare I say funny? Then I react to hearing their advice 5 years later, talk about if I took it and what has happened since…

Transcribed - Published: 14 February 2025

Mixtape of the Last Few Years with James McCrae

I thought it would be fun to do a year-in-review of the music of 2024 with my friend James McCrae. Neither of us are music experts, but we’re constantly sharing music with each other. James first came on the show in 2020, when we did a similar review of the music from that wild quarantine year when artists weren’t touring and we all missed live shows. Fast forward to 2024, and we chat about what we've noticed over the last five years, including the changes in the music industry, trends we've seen, and of course, what we’ve had on repeat. James, a Bob Dylan super-fan, talks about his evolving tastes, new genres, and how pop and hyperpop have influenced his music choices. He also shares his insights on the current music scene and the role of streaming, social media, and live performances. James is an author, poet, artist, and founder of Sunflower Club, a global community dedicated to conscious creativity. He’s the author of several books, including The Art of You, which we discussed last year.

Transcribed - Published: 1 February 2025

Romani Wisdom & Creative Practice: Jezmina & Paulina on Fortune Telling

This week I spoke with Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens, co-hosts of the Romanistan podcast. I talked to them about the tragic fires in LA and their advice on navigating dark times and finding personal and collective resilience. They shared advice on healing and self-care during crises, looking at the tarot card of the year, what they do when they're feeling uninspired or creatively blocked, embracing resilience, and the importance of bringing diverse perspectives to ancient traditions. Their new book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling, introduces the history of the Romani people and their long-standing relationship with fortune-telling, exploring techniques like card reading, palmistry, dream interpretation, and tea leaf and coffee reading, many of which were created or popularized by the Roma. We discussed their distinct cultural upbringings—Paulina’s roots in a traditional Romani community and Jezmina's mixed heritage—and how they each work with people today. And at the end they each pulled a card that's meant to be a message of anyone who listens.

Transcribed - Published: 21 January 2025

Introducing: Mantra with Jemma Sbeg

Ready to take a fresh path to self-discovery? Every Monday, Jemma brings you a new mantra, breaking it down to show you how you can apply it to your own life. Whether you’re facing a major transition or looking to evolve your everyday routine, Mantra is the podcast for you. Join Jemma every week for reflections, practical tips, and personal insights that’ll inspire you to live with intention and unlock your true potential. Follow “Mantra with Jemma Sbeg” wherever you get your podcasts.

Transcribed - Published: 14 January 2025

The Long Game: New Year Notes on Longevity with Dr. Patti Kim on Aging, Routines & Nature’s Cycles (2/2)

**This is part two of last week’s conversation with Dr. Patti, which was recorded prior to the devastating fires in LA. A list of resources is in the show notes below.** Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets. If you haven’t listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us.

Transcribed - Published: 14 January 2025

2025: The Year We integrate Our Self Awareness: Dr. Patti Kim on Rituals, Longevity & Wellness Trends (1/2)

Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets. I’m splitting this into two parts so come back next week for more. And in the meantime, if you haven’t listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us.

Transcribed - Published: 7 January 2025

Long-Term Liminal Space: What to Do When You’re in Between with Ashley Stahl

This week I spoke to Ashley Stahl, a counterterrorism professional turned international bestselling author and Forbes contributor. Not only is Ashley a TEDx speaker herself, she's now a highly sought-after TEDx speechwriter and CEO of her agency Wise Whisper, which helps people craft impactful talks and get booked on major stages. Ashley opens up about navigating the liminal spaces of life, where clarity is elusive, and how discipline plays a crucial role in finding your next elegant idea. Together, we discuss creative pivots, the value of storytelling, and embracing discomfort as a path to growth.

Transcribed - Published: 31 December 2024

MAILBAG Year in Review

In this special year-in-review mailbag episode, producer Ella and I look back on favorite standout episodes from 2024, our process of working together, and what's ahead for Let It Out in the coming year. We answer a few questions about walking, the challenges of maintaining consistency, and our collaborative process with writing and editing newsletters and the truth of how our ideas take shape. Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 19 December 2024

goo prone: a voice note on earnestness, etc.

It's just me this week, delivering a dispatch that feels more like a voice note to a friend than a typical interview. I centered this around how the so-called "irony epidemic" has shaped the way I work, write, and share my projects in a culture that often resists earnestness. I reflect on the push/pull between sincerity and detachment, the ways we seek validation both online and offline, and how group chats, community, and connection factor into it all. Plus, why being “goo prone” might just be the most human thing of all.

Transcribed - Published: 12 December 2024

Chloe Cooks from Pickles in Her Pocket to Anchovies & Soup

This week I spoke to chef, recipe developer, writer and food stylist Chloe Walsh, also known as Chloe Cooks. A Brit based out of Los Angeles, she hosts pop-ups, writes her incredible Substack (Anchovies & Soup), swims, and is known for her potato recipe and so much more. In addition to loving her food, I love her. I’m lucky enough to get to call her a friend and neighbor. She had me over a couple weeks ago, made us lunch, and we talked for hours about everything from her favorite places to go in LA, to meals to cook when alone, food culture as it relates to bodies, chronic illness, writing, design, growing her audience, managing her energy, and following her intuition in the kitchen. I loved every second of this one and I hope you do too!

Transcribed - Published: 25 November 2024

Micro-Hysterical Moments: Amanda Chantal Bacon on shame, aging, dating, the myth of balance, and more!

This week I spoke to Moon Juice founder and CEO Amanda Chantal Bacon. Amanda, as it says in the PR email I received, “has a captivating personal story that led her to create her company,” but we barely touched on that in this conversation. Instead we had a candid conversation that began with talking about shame and a book (All Fours). And spanned to finding love later, aging, mourning past life phases, intergenerational friendship, and the myth of balance. I found this to be a very comforting conversation from start to finish; she was so wise and easygoing that I left feeling like I'd just hung up with a good friend. Despite the fact that I’ve been a fan of her products for over a decade, use her face wash daily, and credit her Beauty Pills for keeping my acne in check—we didn’t even talk about her her company origin story, or even one of her specific products. Next time. Let us know what you think eavesdropping.

Transcribed - Published: 13 November 2024

(2/2) Melissa Broder on How to Write Consistently, the Ephemeral, Ageing, Grief, & More (Part 2)

This is the second half of my conversation with one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. In Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. If you missed Part 1 last week, we talked about about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process.

Transcribed - Published: 29 October 2024

(1/2) Melissa Broder on Limerence, Grief, Food, Writing, Grocery Stores & Much More (Part 1)

This week, I spoke to one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. I’m splitting this one up into two parts… Today you’ll hear the first half of our conversation where we talked about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process. Next week, in Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest.

Transcribed - Published: 22 October 2024

VerĂ´nika ShĂĽlman interviews me at a party!

What you’re about to hear is a conversation between writer Verônika Shülman and myself, recorded last week at a party! In honor of the release of my new zine, Pivot, I hosted a party at NOTO and invited all of my friends. It was so nice to be in the same room with everyone after being stuck inside for most of the summer with a broken leg—in that time I had put together this zine, which is about the lessons I learned in the last decade and how I learned them. My friend and neighbor Verônika hosts this episode. She begins by reading from a book we both love (I Love Dick by Chris Kraus), then reads a bit that she liked from Pivot, and asks me to read an essay from it—which I do. My friends Maddie and Dexter also ask questions and we talk about more writers we love. If you want a copy of Pivot, below is how to get yourself a hard copy.

Transcribed - Published: 12 October 2024

Introducing PIVOT with Simi Botic

This week, Simi Botic—author, founder of Unmeasured, and my best friend—joins me to talk about PIVOT, a new zine of essays I compiled. After breaking my leg this summer, being stuck inside gave me time to put this together. Simi was the first person I sent it to, partly because she's a character in it and wrote one of the essays with me, and because she's always so gentle and supportive. I don't know how I got so lucky to have her as a friend but I did. In this, we talked about seeing each other through different phases. And about the uncomfortable feelings that come from revisiting our old work but try to do as Didion advises, "stay on nodding terms" with our past selves. PIVOT is one big nod to my 20's, including all the lessons I learned and the experiences that taught me them. Let us know if you listen.

Transcribed - Published: 24 September 2024

RITUAL > Routine with Neada Deters, Founder of LESSE

This week I spoke to Neada Deters, founder of the organic skincare range LESSE. We met when she still lived in LA a few years ago so we began this conversation discussing her recent move to NYC, which is a return for her. Neada moved to New York the first time from Australia with a one-way ticket over a decade ago, so we talked about how she made that big decision and many more, including starting out her career in music journalism, working at VICE, and eventually pivoting her beat to beauty writing before eventually starting her skincare line. Inspired by watching her grandmother apply her skincare, Neada gave LESSE the tagline, rituals over routines. We covered her own daily rituals as well as how she spends her days, working with her husband, her advice on romantic relationships, keeping in touch with people far away, and her approach to beauty including where the industry is going and what seeing images of ourselves more than ever before does to our self perception, plus much more. We talked for hours and could’ve continued, let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 12 September 2024

Life Quakes Lead to Growth with Industrial Artist Zoë Pawlak

This week I spoke with Zoë Pawlak, a Vancouver-based artist and industrial designer. After deciding to get sober, she turned to journaling as a way of expression and inner reflection. Soon she married her interests in art and writing to create Vessels and Muses. In this conversation we cover: breaking traditional norms of what’s possible when you have kids; living an "artist lifestyle"; how what she calls "life quakes" lead to growth; and letting go of what’s no longer working. We also talk a lot about communication, the benefits of directness, community care, how she manages deep friendships while still maintaining a creative practice, and much more. Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 27 August 2024

Saying What We're Afraid to with Founder R29 & A Tiny Apt. Christene Barberich

This week I spoke with the iconic writer and editor Christene Barberich. I first knew of her as the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Refinery29. I’ve loved her work for years, through R29, her own writing, and the podcast she hosted for many years called Unstyled, so when recent guest Erika Veurink connected us, I was thrilled. We spoke about starting R29 and what that time was like, reflecting on some of her best interviews with everyone from Linda Rodin to Jenny Slate. She also talked about leaving her role there and the excitement of new beginnings. At the root of her newest project, A Tiny Apt., is how the right environment fosters growth, creativity, safety and vulnerability, particularly as that relates to big dramatic change and leaps of faith. She discussed the changes she’s been navigating: becoming a mom later in life; the double standard of aging especially as it relates to work; how she’s redefining success and ambition as she enters this new era of her work and life. I loved getting to talk to her and I’m eager for her to return.  Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 13 August 2024

Deesha Dyer, Obama's Social Secretary, On How She Tackled Imposter Syndrome, Parties at the White House & More

This week I spoke to President Obama’s Social Secretary, Deesha Dyer. She recently published her memoir, Undiplomatic, which dives into how a hip-hop journalist without credentials, connections, or a college degree conquered imposter syndrome while landing one of the most sought-after positions in the White House. Moved by the election of the country's first Black president, she applied for a White House internship at 31, taking a leap that carried her through being hired in a full-time position that landed her at the epicenter of politics.  I loved her book and was stoked to get to talk to her. We covered: the importance of following curiosity and acting on it, what she learned from spending time with Michelle and Barack Obama, redefining societal timelines, throwing parties at the White House, the Obama years overall, and the connection between pop culture and politics. As well as: the importance of cross-learning in mentorship and having customer service experience. Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 15 July 2024

Long Live: Erika Veurink Is Here (Part 2 of 2)

This week is the second half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She’s written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities. In Part 2, she shares how she met her husband and offers advice on romantic relationships. And of course, personal style, including her go-to outfit. We talk more about her Substack publication, where she covers everything from her advice on scoring vintage gems on Ebay to to body image. I even get an exclusive when I ask if she’d write a Substack on her favorite athletic shorts recs and she shares a few. If you missed Part 1 last week, we covered spirituality and rest and spoke about writing at length, including her love for the personal essay and how she structures her daily writing practice. Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 3 July 2024

Long Live: Erika Veurink Is Here (Part 1 of 2)

This week is the first half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She’s written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities. In Part 1, she shares how her religious upbringing led to her work ethic and ability to maintain multiple projects and jobs, but also impacted her thoughts on spirituality and rest. We cover writing at length including: her love of the personal essay and why publications are no longer running them, and where she sees the future of that style and media in general. She shares the best writing advice she’s been given and breaks down exactly how she structures her daily writing practice. We cover her Substack publication, where she covers everything from her advice on scoring vintage gems on Ebay to to body image.

Transcribed - Published: 25 June 2024

The Art of Tending: Kerrilynn Pamer, Founder of CAP Beauty, Returns

This is a conversation with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty. It was recorded recently at her kitchen table with the scent of a walnut cake in the oven filling the room. She was first on in 2021 where we talked about starting CAP, cooking, and personal style, and I’ve been dying to have her back ever since. This episode covers updates on topics discussed last time plus we talk about: having a fixed vs. growth mindset, feeling left out, friendship vs. acquaintances, taking a psychological approach to aging, beauty, developing taste, interiors (including how to make your home feel like a supportive friend), and much more. She’s one of my all-time favorite guests. Let us know if you listen!

Transcribed - Published: 13 May 2024

Messy Middles, Access, and Evolving with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty [REPOST]

This is a conversation is with Kerrilynn Pamer, co-founder of the wellness company CAP Beauty. We recorded this at her kitchen table overlooking the mountains drinking espresso. She talks about starting CAP, being in the "unsexy" middle of a project, her love of cooking and sharing food, her evolving personal style, how to build and sustain positive relationships, and a whole lot more. This was recorded in 2022 but I'm re-airing it today because she's returning to the show next week. I recorded a brand new interview with her where we reference some of the topics we discussed here and she gives updates of what happened since, so stay tuned for that next week!

Transcribed - Published: 30 April 2024

Have Your Carbs & Eat Them Too: Phoebe Lapine Returns

This week I spoke to my close friend, chef, author, and screenwriter Phoebe Lapine. She is one of the most creative and self-aware people I know, and I deeply admire her and her work. We met years ago when I interviewed her when her book The Wellness Project came out and then again for her last book which was about SIBO. She has a new cookbook out now, called Carbivore, which I have been learning to cook from. We catch up in this episode about the topic of this new project which is, of course, carbs: we get into what led to carbs being demonized by the diet industry, what sugar and carbs actually mean for our blood sugar, food sequencing, digestion, how overthinking all of this can be damaging, and how we’ve both been on the extreme ends and how to navigate that. Let us know if you listen.

Transcribed - Published: 23 April 2024

What To Do When Nothing Is Working: Jessica Lyda Returns

This week, Jessica Lyda returns. A friend recommended her sessions to me in 2020 and afterward I wanted to know how she got into it and have her share her wisdom here. The way that she works with people is hard to articulate, but she explains it well in this. Jessica has facilitated healing sessions with thousands of different people, from celebrities to therapists to shamans to skeptics to me! She helps you figure out some trapped emotions and how to release those. We also talk about: what to do when nothing is working, how to handle feeing stagnant, toxic relationships, setting boundaries, people-pleasing dynamics, overwhelm, catching ideas, and much more … let us know if you listen…

Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2024

Free Oribhabor, Founder of The Record Club on Early Music Memories, Developing Taste & More (Part 2 of 2)

This week is part 2 of my conversation with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He’s the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." In part 2 we talk about how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in one's taste and allowing taste to change, and he also takes questions from friends. Let us know if you listen.

Transcribed - Published: 2 April 2024

The Record Club Founder Free Oribhabor on Wormholes & Being a Jack-of-All-Trades (Part 1 of 2)

This week is part 1 of a 2-part conversation I had with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He’s also the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." As you’ll hear in these conversations (and you’ve felt if you’ve danced while he’s DJ-ing or been in the audience while he unpacks a favorite album) his enthusiasm is palpable. In this we not only talk about the origin of The Record Club but also expanding it in the future while maintaining the intimate vision he had for it early on. In part 1 we talk about wormholes and research, being undervalued in education, making money doing many different things (being a jack-of-all-trades) which can mean that things take longer. And in part 2 we get into how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in taste, allowing taste to change, and he takes questions for friends. Let us know if you listen.

Transcribed - Published: 16 March 2024

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