Okay, Disha, I'm so happy you're here. I just said this before we started recording, but I've loved spending time with you preparing for this. And congrats on the book. How does it feel?

Thank you so much. And I'm so happy to be here. I, it feels like a huge relief because it's this big thing that you have so much fear about and like you put it out to the world

and that means that people might critique it and you're scared. But like once it's out, it's like,

well, it's done. So nothing else can be done about it, you know? So it feels like a nice relief

that it's out now. So I feel great. Yeah. Well, one of the interviews I listened to you on was,

I think, from a couple of years ago. And it was one of my favorites. And it was you with a friend from

high school and you could tell that you had a long, close relationship because, you know, you said that, but you could just

tell that that was, I think a conversation between people who know each other really well is

is, is really special. And one of the things you talked about in that was how your work as the

social secretary in the White House made sense since you were young, you know,

like, and you both had, um, you, you talked about this a little bit. And so I'm curious,

like, if you can talk about, we're kind of starting in the middle, but if, you know,

that position is so cool and it was so one one of the many things that was so

interesting in your book and just hearing your story, getting to that point. But I didn't know

that that role existed until I read your book. And I'm curious, like, are, do you you think what do you think are some inherent qualities

that you just had within you that helped you in that role and what are some skills that you

had to develop in order to succeed yeah no that's a great question and so you know what I would

say is like you know I didn't know the job existed either. I was like, what is the social secretary of the White House do? And I didn't even hear the job until I became an intern in 2009, in 2009. And so I like was like, that job seems like it's so big. It's so posh. It's so like not me once I found out about it. But then once I, you know, got the deputy social secretary role and got to know what the position was a little bit, I was like, oh, this is like hospitality and it's event planning and its diplomacy and its decorum. And so, you know,

my background of doing community organizing and being a mentor and throwing parties and doing

fundraisers and being involved in causes in the community really set me up for that role

in a way that I didn't realize obviously when I was doing it before, right?

And even being involved in music, I was a hip-hop journalist in Philadelphia.

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