Romani Wisdom & Creative Practice: Jezmina & Paulina on Fortune Telling

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Katie Dalebout

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4.9 • 826 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

This week I spoke with Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens, co-hosts of the Romanistan podcast. I talked to them about the tragic fires in LA and their advice on navigating dark times and finding personal and collective resilience. They shared advice on healing and self-care during crises, looking at the tarot card of the year, what they do when they're feeling uninspired or creatively blocked, embracing resilience, and the importance of bringing diverse perspectives to ancient traditions. Their new book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling, introduces the history of the Romani people and their long-standing relationship with fortune-telling, exploring techniques like card reading, palmistry, dream interpretation, and tea leaf and coffee reading, many of which were created or popularized by the Roma. We discussed their distinct cultural upbringings—Paulina’s roots in a traditional Romani community and Jezmina's mixed heritage—and how they each work with people today. And at the end they each pulled a card that's meant to be a message of anyone who listens.

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0:00.0	We have seen difficult things.
0:07.0	Our ancestors have seen difficult things.
0:09.0	We draw on resilience where we can, but sometimes resilience looks just like gritting your teeth
0:15.0	and making it through the day, and that's okay.
0:17.0	You don't have to be a pinnacle of mental health through your darkest time.
0:23.6	Okay, hi, how's everybody doing?
0:27.6	How's it going?
0:28.6	How is 2025 feeling for you so far?
0:35.6	It's feeling pretty weird for me over here. This episode was recorded just a
0:44.7	couple days ago and the fires in LA have just been devastating and I have been so sad about it and sad for the city and it's just
0:58.8	incredibly heartbreaking and destabilizing and as I spoke about in the intro of
1:05.0	last week's episode if you tuned in to that you heard me kind of processing in
1:10.7	even more real time but but yeah, I feel like
1:13.3	everyone in this city, including myself, you know, has not really slept very well and we're all
1:21.1	very dysregulated because of all the alerts and evacuation notices. And of course, you know know in comparison to the people who have been
1:30.3	displaced and lost everything I am so lucky to be recording this from my apartment where I am safe so
1:42.5	this conversation covers that a bit because I hopped on here and recorded this
1:47.8	and I had just flown in the door from volunteering for several days and I realized I had kind of
1:56.9	burnt myself out a bit and I wanted to help as much as I could and wanted to genuinely be
2:04.0	useful but I was trying to discern how to do that and you hear me in process trying to sort that out
2:11.1	but who I speak to are two people we have two guests this week two two lovely people that you're about to hear from,
2:19.0	and this is how it came to be. So as you might know, I've been doing this for a while, so I get
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