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LET IT OUT

Introducing PIVOT with Simi Botic

LET IT OUT

Katie Dalebout

Fashion & Beauty, Mental Health, Love, Arts, Self-help, Wellness, Katie Dalebout, Health & Fitness, Well Being, True Crime, Self-care, Society & Culture, Personal Growth, Health

4.9 • 826 Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This week, Simi Botic—author, founder of Unmeasured, and my best friend—joins me to talk about PIVOT, a new zine of essays I compiled. After breaking my leg this summer, being stuck inside gave me time to put this together. Simi was the first person I sent it to, partly because she's a character in it and wrote one of the essays with me, and because she's always so gentle and supportive. I don't know how I got so lucky to have her as a friend but I did. In this, we talked about seeing each other through different phases. And about the uncomfortable feelings that come from revisiting our old work but try to do as Didion advises, "stay on nodding terms" with our past selves. PIVOT is one big nod to my 20's, including all the lessons I learned and the experiences that taught me them. Let us know if you listen.

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0:00.0

I think the biggest thing for me as I was reading over this, like, as a collection, and there's so many beautiful themes in this scene, right?

0:10.0

Like, about connection and vulnerability and self-worth and all of these amazing themes, but I think the thing that was so present throughout them all was sort of this dichotomy between the urge to like contract

0:26.1

and then you go through these experiences and you find permission to expand. And I think there is something

0:33.8

that is very raw but hopeful in every single one of these essays.

0:44.8

Hi, how's it going? How are you doing? Welcome to the podcast that you just chose to listen to.

0:52.9

There's so many options and you are here. Good choice.

0:57.9

Hopefully good choice. I'm really glad you're here. Thank you so much for tuning in. You're about to

1:03.5

hear a conversation with one of my best friends in the world. We've been friends for over a decade, and her name is Simmy. She's here

1:15.6

because, A, she's one of my favorite people to talk to, and also because I wrote a zine.

1:23.6

I wrote the zine, and it's called Pivot, and I'm really excited to tell you about it and

1:29.3

Simi is a character in it. I mentioned her in several of the essays and it also features an essay that we wrote together.

1:41.3

I talk about it in this a little bit throughout,

1:46.1

a decent amount throughout,

1:48.4

and we just have a conversation about our friendship,

1:51.2

about changing media and spanning time.

1:58.2

So here's that conversation with Simi. If you want to know how to get the zine,

2:05.1

well, you're in luck because I'm about to tell you. If you are a paid subscriber of my

2:12.0

substack, then congratulations. A zine will be coming to you, or actually a link will be coming to your email

2:19.3

and it will have a Google form attached to that link and you'll just write your address and I'll send you one in the mail.

2:27.3

If you're not a paid subscriber, you can become one and then you'll get that link and I'll send you one in the mail.

2:32.3

But really, you know, check up my substack.

2:36.0

And if you like it, you'll like the zine.

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