I think that one of the most important things that we can do is give ourselves enough space and time to have ideas that we can pursue that we feel really alive about.

And one of the biggest mistakes people make in their career is they just jump on the bandwagon of ideas and plans just for the sake of having plans versus choosing something that really feels alive and true for you.

Hi, welcome back. Welcome to let it out. I claimed last time i believe that it was the last episode of the year but

you know i didn't make any promises and here's another one sneaking in at the tail end of 2024

perhaps you're not even listening to this the day it comes out. And if that's the case,

happy New Year. Welcome to the show. This week I talk to Ashley Stahl. She's someone who you may

remember if you've been listening for a long time. She was on a couple years ago and I'm so

happy to get to catch up with her. We recorded an episode of me on her podcast, which I don't think is out yet.

So when it is, I'll let you know.

But after that, we had more to talk about.

So I was like, come back on mine too.

And we recorded a part two, which you're about to hear, which is not really a part two, which is a separate

conversation. So we get into talking about what it's like to be in a space of needing to wait

for the next, as she calls it, elegant idea and being in that liminal space and how to have

discipline within that and much more. So here's that conversation.

As always, I'm so grateful that you're here, that you're listening, and it genuinely

means so much.

If you like this show and you find anything of value from it, share it with a friend, leave

a review.

It actually helps so much. I, it's, you

know, embarrassing to ask, but it really does help so I just want to keep doing it and I

plan to. I plan to keep doing it in the new year. So let me know if there's anything that

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