When I lived in New York, I was a poet.

I only wrote poetry and I used to write my poems on the subway.

And when I moved to LA, we're in the car so much that I started dictating in the car and all of my line breaks, like, disappeared.

And the writing became more conversational and that was how so sad today got written.

So I always wonder would I have even started writing prose if I didn't live in

Los Angeles?

Hi, welcome back. This week is part two of my conversation with the incredible writer, dare I say

my favorite writer. I said it last week, I'll say it again, it's still true. Mola Subroeder

is here. She's back.

This is the second half of a conversation we recorded about two weeks ago.

And if you want to start here, you know, that's, that's, you can, you absolutely can.

We might reference some things from part one and you might want to go back and listen to that one.

But as I always say, things come alive in part two.

So you know what?

This might be the better half. And we cover a lot of ground, including grief and losing a parent and writing about her experience with that in the form of

probably my favorite book that she's written so far, which is called Death Valley.

It's a novel that came out about a year ago.

And through that, we spoke about what's helpful with grieving and sitting still with ourselves,

distracting ourselves and keeping busy to not feel.

And you know what, then we take a turn and we talk about a favorite grocery stores.

And anyway, like I said last time, it's heavy.

It's also light.

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