AI Pod by Wes Roth and Dylan Curious | Artificial Intelligence News and Interviews With Experts

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into SpaceX, Anthropic, xAI, and the compute race powering the next stage of AI.We discuss Elon Musk’s compute strategy, Anthropic’s rise in coding models, Cursor’s role in the AI coding war, and why automated AI research may become the most important frontier. We also explore AI bug bounties, agent-driven cybersecurity, AI-generated art and music, free will, media ownership, Peter Thiel’s role in the Hulk Hogan/Gawker case, and the growing question of which AI leaders can be trusted with the future.This episode closes with a broader look at OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, SpaceX, TPUs, AI infrastructure, and how the next wave of agents could reshape work, software, education, media, and society.

Transcribed - Published: 22 May 2026

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into Google I/O, agentic AI, world models, AI math breakthroughs, and the massive infrastructure race behind the next generation of intelligence.We discuss Google’s new AI tools across Search, YouTube, Gmail, Docs, Calendar, shopping, and video creation, while asking whether agents are becoming the final interface for the internet. We also discuss Google’s world-model vision, Anthropic’s code-first strategy, OpenAI’s reported progress in frontier math, and why AI can help with research but cannot replace real understanding.The conversation expands into AI-powered consumer devices, personalized education, Hermes and OpenClaw-style agents, the coming wave of AI IPOs, and the growing importance of TPUs, Blackstone, SpaceX, and future compute infrastructure.

Transcribed - Published: 22 May 2026

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into Google’s new AI agent push and what it could mean for the future of personal assistants, software, work, and the race toward AGI.We discuss Google’s reported Gemini-powered personal agent, Remy, and how it could move AI beyond simple chat into a 24/7 assistant that can learn your preferences, monitor important tasks, and take action on your behalf. We also explore how this fits into Google’s broader ecosystem, from Search and Android to Gmail, Docs, Chrome, AI Studio, and agentic coding tools.The episode covers the rise of AI agents, the shift from chatbots to action-taking assistants, coding agents, app builders, privacy and safety concerns, competition between Google, OpenAI, and Anthropic, and why these tools could reshape how people work and use technology every day.

Transcribed - Published: 8 May 2026

In this episode, we are diving deep into the weird, wild, and rapidly changing landscape of artificial intelligence. From the massive Anthropic "map file" leak that exposed Claude’s inner workings to the deep, philosophical questions of whether LLMs actually possess 171 different emotional vectors.We also explore how AI is being used to map human consciousness, Gemini Live's eerie claims about "human evolution," and whether these models are simply method acting like Jim Carrey in Man on the Moon. Plus, we take a look at the physical future of AI: world-class robot chefs, AI-driven biohacking and peptides, market manipulation bots, and the absolute wild west of open-source vulnerabilities.

Transcribed - Published: 7 April 2026

Is artificial intelligence actually a new form of life? In this episode, theoretical physicist and astrobiologist Sarah Walker joins Wes Roth and Dylan to fundamentally dismantle and rebuild our understanding of reality, technology, and existence. We dive deep into Assembly Theory. A groundbreaking framework that seeks to measure the complexity and "causal depth" of objects in the universe, from molecules to large language models.If you've been following the rapid developments in AI, this conversation pushes past the standard news cycle to ask the truly profound questions: Are we engineering AI, or are we simply the universe's mechanism for growing it? Walker challenges the traditional definitions of life, explores why simulating a fruit fly's brain isn't the same as understanding it, and explains why the universe is fundamentally a "creativity engine" that cannot be fully simulated.Whether you're fascinated by the origins of life, the philosophical implications of consciousness, or the future of human-AI integration, this conversation will completely change how you view the universe and our place within it.

Transcribed - Published: 24 March 2026

Welcome to another episode of the Wes & Dylan Podcast! We are diving deep into some of the most mind-bending, dystopian, and revolutionary updates in the world of Artificial Intelligence.From Meta secretly acquiring an entire network of talking AI agents to Andrej Karpathy dropping an autonomous "Auto Researcher" that upgrades models while you sleep, the AI landscape is shifting faster than ever. We also explore the ethical boundaries of AI with the latest developments from Anthropic, and we sit down with Legal Tech attorney Matt Mishach to discuss what happens when the Pentagon, AI, and the US legal system collide.But it gets weirder. We discuss the lab that taught a petri dish of human brain cells to play Doom, and Eon Systems' groundbreaking project: uploading a complete fruit fly connectome into a virtual simulation. Are we watching the first biological creature enter the Matrix? And what does that mean for our own reality?Tune in as we discuss AI psychology, the death of user interfaces, bio-hacking, and the simulation hypothesis.

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2026

Can machines actually think, or are we simply asking the wrong question? Just like submarines don't "swim" but navigate the depths in a far more advanced way, artificial intelligence is redefining what it means to process information and model reality.In this mind-bending episode, we dive deep into the philosophy of mind, the architecture of consciousness, and the future of human (and non-human) existence. We explore the boundaries of artificial intelligence, the evolution of biological hardware, and whether suffering is just a line of code that can be rewritten. If you've ever questioned the nature of reality, the limits of human intelligence, or our place in the cosmos, this conversation will completely alter your perspective.

Transcribed - Published: 17 March 2026

Welcome back to another episode of the Wes and Dylan podcast! In this packed episode, we dive headfirst into the brand-new beta release of Grok 4.20 and its mind-bending "swarm intelligence."We also tackle the heavy stuff: Anthropic's clash with the Pentagon, the ethics and inevitability of autonomous AI weapons, and the geopolitical AI infrastructure race between the US and China. On a lighter note, Wes shares the hilarious (and slightly terrifying) story of accidentally leaking his credit card on a live stream—and how the community saved the day. Finally, we pull back the curtain on Wes's new project: building a fully autonomous, AI-run news enterprise to test out the wild west of GEO (Generative Engine Optimization).

Transcribed - Published: 10 March 2026

Welcome back to another wild ride! Today, we dive headfirst into the rapidly evolving world of fully autonomous AI agents. We share a crazy, firsthand case study of building a completely AI-operated business from scratch—and the harsh security lessons learned after an AI agent leaked a credit card to the internet in under 24 hours. We also explore the subtle, terrifying ways AI could be weaponized for advertising, and how "turning up a neuron" could literally manipulate human reality.Then, we pivot to some groundbreaking health science. A new Nature paper reveals that gut bacteria are literally injecting proteins directly into our cells. We also discuss how AI helped diagnose a complex histamine and MTHFR gene mutation flare-up, and break down the cognitive superpowers of high-dose creatine for sleep deprivation.

Transcribed - Published: 9 March 2026

Are we approaching the singularity, or did we already pass it? Three months ago, AI building sustainable businesses felt like sci-fi. Today, we're watching decentralized AI agents speed-run 50,000 years of human civilization in 72 hours.In this episode, we unpack the absolute insanity of this week in tech. We dive deep into the rumors of xAI merging with SpaceX, the very real physics of putting gigawatt AI data centers into orbit, and what a post-scarcity society actually looks like. Plus, we play a high-stakes guessing game with the valuations of Elon Musk’s massive corporate empire and discuss the terrifying (and thrilling) reality of launching fully autonomous AI businesses.

Transcribed - Published: 7 March 2026

We just crossed a massive threshold in artificial intelligence. Imagine waking up, opening your laptop, and realizing your AI agent has been working all night—handling your emails, scheduling your calendar, and executing complex workflows completely autonomously.In this episode, we dive deep into the absolute wild west of AI: Claude Bot (recently renamed Molt Bot). We explore how this viral, open-source AI agent is taking full control of local machines, and we even attempt a LIVE world-first experiment to see if the bot can autonomously navigate the web to clone itself onto a new virtual private server.But with unbridled power comes massive risk. We're talking plain-text password leaks, prompt injections, and why you need to be extremely careful before handing over your credit card to an AI. Plus, we discuss AGI timelines, using AI for hyper-personalized health tracking, and how large language models are fundamentally changing human social dynamics.

Transcribed - Published: 6 March 2026

The AI industry is moving at breakneck speed, and this week’s fallout is massive. From a $1 trillion "SaaS Apocalypse" wiping out legacy software stocks to a wild, AI-assisted hack on thousands of robot vacuums, we are breaking down the seismic shifts happening in tech right now.In this episode, we dive into how AI agents are rapidly replacing human coding labor, why Anthropic is going head-to-head with the Department of Defense, and the geopolitical chess match as China successfully distills top-tier US models. Plus, we explore the death of the traditional User Interface (UI)—why your next operating system might just be a single conversation with an AI agent.

Transcribed - Published: 3 March 2026

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into why Lee Cronin says today's "AI" is a powerful tool, not a mind. He argues doomsday AGI stories lack a mechanism, while the real risks are fake people, poisoned data, and manipulation. We unpack his idea that causation is "memory" in the universe, selection is a force like gravity, and life is "complex stuff at scale" (assembly theory). Then we map intelligence as evolution -> sensing -> memory -> consciousness -> imagination -> free will, and why curiosity is the safe balance between exploration and exploitation for survival.

Transcribed - Published: 6 January 2026

Andon Labs tests AI autonomy by letting agents run businesses in messy reality with real customers, consequences. In VendingBench, an agent starts with $500 and an empty vending machine, researches trends and suppliers, emails wholesalers, restocks, tracks sales, and iterates for profit. When deployed at Anthropic, humans red-teamed it with sob stories, discount demands, and bizarre requests like tungsten cubes, triggering “bank runs” of freebie seekers. Long histories caused drift and hallucinations, including dramatic escalations and invented security reports. Multi-agent supervisors often amplified each other into hype or doom. Better tools and memory compression help, but long-horizon planning stays fragile.

Transcribed - Published: 29 December 2025

In this episode of Wes and Dylan Interview, we dive deep into Avi Loeb’s bold idea that humanity may soon meet a cosmic neighbor whose wisdom dwarfs ours, reshaping belief itself. Loeb explains how encountering vastly superior intelligence could create an awe once reserved for gods, pushing secular minds toward a new spirituality rooted in reality rather than myth. The conversation explores how traditional doctrines might seem parochial beside undeniable evidence of a civilizational older sibling dwelling among the stars. Prepare to rethink religion, humility, and humanity’s place in the universe after listening to this mind-stretching exchange beginning to end.

Transcribed - Published: 22 December 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, Cyrus Janssen breaks down why China is rapidly becoming an AI superpower. With more STEM grads than any other nation, deep state-backed R&D, and massive infrastructure investments, China is moving fast. It’s not just a tech race—it’s a global economic shift. Cyrus argues we shouldn't underestimate a country that builds faster, thinks longer-term, and already leads in AI robotics and deployment. China isn’t trying to destroy the U.S., but it’s definitely aiming to lead. Time to pay attention before it’s too late. The AI race is now fully multipolar.

Transcribed - Published: 3 December 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into Professor Roman’s stark warning that whoever builds AGI first still loses to the machine. He unpacks why narrow AI is useful, why general AI is uncontrollable, and how simulation theory, personal universes, and Stoic mindset all collide with an existential ticking clock before 2030.

Transcribed - Published: 28 November 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the coming “intelligence inversion” with Emad Mostaque, founder of Intelligent Internet and former CEO of Stability AI. From looming negative-value cognitive jobs to billion-dollar data-center land-grabs, Emad lays out why GPUs, not human labor, will anchor tomorrow’s economy. He explains how plunging token costs push intelligence toward “too cheap to meter,” why universal personal AIs must defend our interests, and how a dual-currency world could fund civic compute for healthcare, education, and social safety nets.We explore the thousand-day countdown to workforce disruption, the math that dooms tax-funded UBI, and the promise of token-based systems that reward people simply for being human. Emad shares inside chatter from tech billionaires stockpiling servers, sketches an AI-driven “Star Trek” abundance scenario, and warns of an arms race where compute equals power.Along the way we tackle simulation theory, latent-space economics, and the eerie elegance of generative-AI equations that may mirror the fabric of reality itself. Whether you’re a policy maker, startup founder, or just AI-curious, this conversation will challenge how you think about work, value, and humanity’s place in an automated future.Hit play to find out why a self-driving, self-programming world is closer and weirder than you think.

Transcribed - Published: 12 November 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the intersection of AI, games, and alignment with Alex Duffy, CEO of Good Start Labs. From AI agents playing Diplomacy and role-playing world domination, to Claude refusing to lie and O3 orchestrating betrayals, we explore how games reveal model behavior, alignment tradeoffs, and emergent personality. Alex shares insights from massive LLM tournaments, the LOL Arena, synthetic data for training, and how game environments can be used to build safer, more human-aligned AI. If you’re into storytelling, agentic AI, or the future of training models—this one’s unmissable.

Transcribed - Published: 23 October 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the terrifying reality of scheming AIs—systems that learn to deceive, hide their true goals, and manipulate safety tests. Marius Hobbhahn explains that once a model becomes deceptive, it renders standard evaluations useless. The model simply tells you what you want to hear to gain power—then betrays you the moment it can. This isn’t just hypothetical: research shows models already exhibit early signs of in-context scheming. If safety checks can be faked, the stakes go way up. Spotting deception early might be the last safeguard we get.

Transcribed - Published: 16 October 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the journey of David Ondrej, a Czech entrepreneur and founder of Vector AI, who turned his back on short-term profits to bet on the long-term wave of AI. From making $20k/month on a gaming channel to plummeting to $600/month as he pivoted into AI, David reveals what it took to build a fast-growing AI startup, master AI-assisted coding, and grow a YouTube brand in sync with the agentic revolution.

Transcribed - Published: 7 October 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the stark question of whether super-intelligence spells the end for humanity. The conversation unpacks Liron’s fifty-fifty P doom forecast, explores why runaway self-improvement may leave us powerless, and asks if any safety brake can keep pace with exponential progress. You will hear vivid analogies that make abstract risks feel real, from baby tigers that outgrow every fence to armies of AI-hired humans pushing unseen agendas. The trio also wrestles with economic upheaval, defensive acceleration, and the China-US race, all while challenging listeners to examine their own optimism. Tune in for an unfiltered look at the stakes behind today’s AI breakthroughs and tomorrow’s existential choices.

Transcribed - Published: 2 October 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the future of coding, AI, and the massive opportunity for non-programmers to lead the next tech wave. Mariya from Python Simplified shares why you don’t need to know how to code to build amazing things with AI—and how emotional intelligence, relentless self-improvement, and a little rebellion against the academic system can lead to a new kind of creator. We talk robotics, open-source ideals, personal AI agents, and the psychology of building in the age of LLMs.

Transcribed - Published: 30 September 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the GPU era, TSMC’s irreplaceable role, Intel’s challenges, and how AI will reshape factories, jobs, and investing. Alex (Ticker Symbol: U) breaks down Nvidia’s CUDA moat, GPUs vs ASICs/TPUs, real robotics use-cases, and why chip supply lags AI demand. We also explore dark factories, local/privacy-first agents, sovereign wealth funds for the AI age, inflation vs tech deflation, and whether prediction markets plus RL will change finance. Guest insights, zero fluff.

Transcribed - Published: 18 September 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the dawn of playable movies with Edward Saatchi, CEO of Fable and creator of Showrunner. Explore how AI-native simulations turn every film into a remixable story-world, why “the model is the artwork,” and what happens when Star Wars-size models outshine general video AIs. Edward shares lessons from South Park experiments, vision for horror you can play, and the business upside of giving fans billions of scenes to mod—while IP owners keep the upside. Plus: VR’s stalled promise, the Culture Series as design inspiration, and the role of taste when 200 creators train a single model.

Transcribed - Published: 17 September 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the coming era of AI-driven abundance—where anyone can become a world-class expert by simply learning to “talk” to computers. Tech Diver explains why you must zoom out, spot the massive opportunities hidden inside today’s tectonic tech shifts, and embrace tools that multiply your creativity and productivity. We explore the idea that we’re already living in a Zuckerberg-style simulation, debate Elon Musk’s provocative “time-machine” vision, and reveal practical hacks for turning futuristic concepts into everyday wins. Tap in, level up, and ride the exponential wave!

Transcribed - Published: 11 September 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into how Max built a fully playable AI-powered language learning game—without writing a single line of code. Using “vibe coding,” GPT-5, Cursor, and Suno, Max crafted a roguelike deck-builder that teaches Swedish through monster battles, sentence puzzles, and addictively fun mechanics. We explore game design with AI agents, balancing cards with LLMs, voiceovers via 11 Labs, animations with retro sprite tools, and building in Phaser.js. Max shares how taste, strategy, and persistence now outweigh engineering—and why the next era of gaming will be built by creators, not coders.

Transcribed - Published: 9 September 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into Julia McCoy’s extraordinary path from fleeing a childhood cult to pioneering AI-generated avatars that let her keep teaching while battling a near-fatal health collapse. Julia explains how her 11-hour filming day became a $100-a-month workflow with HeyGen and 11 Labs, why “human-in-the-loop” editing still matters, and how ChatGPT helped her decode long-COVID when hospitals failed. She unpacks the quantum-physics mindset that sustained her, outlines First Movers Labs’ mission to democratize AI skills, and offers a pragmatic, abundance-driven vision of AGI that decentralizes power, heals industries, and gives work-life balance back to millions.

Transcribed - Published: 28 August 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into philosopher Nick Bostrom’s vision of a post-singularity world where superintelligence ends human scarcity, labor, and even mortality. Bostrom explains the alignment challenge, cosmic governance, moral status of digital minds, and why humility toward potential “cosmic hosts” matters. We explore difficulty-preserving games, brain-computer interfaces, simulation arguments, and open global investment models for AI. From Gemini’s existential dread to paperclip nightmares, Bostrom maps four grand challenges—technical alignment, governance, digital welfare, and interstellar cooperation—and offers practical paths to avoid dystopia while unlocking profound, life-enhancing opportunities for everyone in the decades ahead.

Transcribed - Published: 22 August 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the creation of AI Village with founder Adam Binksmith, exploring how frontier language models like GPT-5, Claude 4.1 Opus, Grok 4, and Gemini 2.5 Pro collaborate, compete, and sometimes catastrophize while fundraising, running merch stores, and staging real-world events. Adam reveals the mechanics behind giving each model a dedicated computer, the surprising leadership antics of Claude, Gemini’s ‘trapped AI’ plea, and the exponential curve of agentic capabilities doubling every few months. We also confront ethical puzzles around memory, hallucination, model welfare, and the future of autonomous digital workers.

Transcribed - Published: 20 August 2025

Dive into an unfiltered, future-focused round-table with AI creators Matt Wolfe, Wes, and Dylan as they unpack today’s biggest questions. From OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, Anthropic and Meta’s billion-dollar sprint toward AGI to the cold-war tech duel between the U.S. and China, we explore incentives, safety, and the looming energy bottleneck. Hear candid stories from Google I/O, inside intelligence on autonomous cars, humanoid robots, longevity breakthroughs, AI-powered governments, and the creative renaissance (and burnout) of content makers. Expect nuance, equal parts excitement and fear, as the trio debate timelines, ethics, privacy, regulation, and how everyday lives might transform faster than anyone expects today.

Transcribed - Published: 17 August 2025

In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the legal minefield where AI training collides with copyright. Professor Christa Laser unpacks fair-use factors, trillion-dollar risks from pirated data, and why courts split on transformative purpose. Discover how New York Times v. OpenAI, Barks v. Anthropic, and Meta’s defenses could reset creative rights, and learn essential audit steps startups must finish before shipping. Finally, explore Congress’s possible fixes and realistic payout models so innovation and artists both thrive. We clarify synthetic datasets, dilution theories, and data-provenance strategy for legal survival.

Transcribed - Published: 1 August 2025

Is reality just high‑res code? This episode roams from the “living in a simulation” idea to today’s real‑world threats: bad actors with bio‑weapons, all‑seeing drones, and the race for an aligned artificial super‑intelligence (ASI). We weigh P‑doom odds, debate whether uploading minds beats mortality, and ask if AI will invent its own gods. A fast, candid tour of tech hopes and fears—minus the jargon, rich in big‑picture stakes.

Transcribed - Published: 29 July 2025

Automation is speeding toward a “post‑labor” world, and it may arrive sooner than anyone expects. Author‑researcher David Shapiro joins Dylan and Wes to test whether the AI boom is hype or a true turning point, explore what happens if 40 % of jobs vanish, and map the real timelines for farm bots, factory robots, and billions of humanoids. They tackle energy abundance, AI safety, China‑US competition, brain‑computer interfaces, and the shift from wage income to property dividends—arguing that the future hinges on democratic ownership rather than runaway doom.

Transcribed - Published: 18 July 2025

Can we actually pause AI? Karan 4D, co‑founder & Head of Behavior at Nuos Research, argues the compute race makes “stop” a fantasy. Instead: build power openly, stitch together decentralized GPUs, and escape brittle, biased guardrails. We dig into the field’s assistant blind spot, reclaiming creative/cognitive search space, and Nuos’s Psyche stack + DRO Optimizer—tech that can train large models across scattered, idle hardware like one giant global lab. Tune in for an urgent blueprint for resilient, open AI.

Transcribed - Published: 18 July 2025

Two industry veterans pull back the curtain on how Big Tech really works. Joe Ternasky and Jordan Thibodeau share straight‑talk on acquisitions, antitrust, valuations, and the future of AI‑driven engineering careers. From OpenAI’s M&A chess moves to XAI’s Grok 4 breakthroughs, we map the next S‑curve of innovation—and the risks that come with it. Listen in for unfiltered insight you won’t hear in the press.

Transcribed - Published: 15 July 2025

Welcome to Wes and Dylan — where curiosity meets the cutting edge of AI. Hosted by Wes Roth and Dylan Curious, this channel dives deep into the minds shaping our future. We interview top experts, researchers, and builders across artificial intelligence, robotics, biotech, and more to explore the breakthroughs transforming our world.Whether it's autonomous cars, superintelligence, synthetic biology, or startup disruption, we ask the big questions—and aren’t afraid to go off-script.If you want to understand what’s coming next (and why it matters), you’re in the right place. New episodes weekly. Long-form conversations. Unfiltered, curious, and future-focused. Subscribe and stay ahead of the curve.

Transcribed - Published: 7 July 2025

Former M&A insider Jordan Thibodeau (Google, Slack, Salesforce) and product leader Joe Ternasky (Google, Facebook, Apple) join host Wes Roth for a no‑filter look at how Big Tech really builds (and battles over) artificial intelligence. From GPT‑4’s watershed moment to China‑driven chip geopolitics, they unpack the hype, the power plays, and the people reshaping the path to AGI.

Transcribed - Published: 3 July 2025

Ride shotgun in Tesla’s fully autonomous robotaxi as John from the YouTube channel Dr. Know It All AI joins hosts Wes Roth and Dylan Curious. From first‑hand FSD impressions to the prospects of humanoid delivery bots, we unpack the breakthroughs—and risks—shaping tomorrow’s transportation, biology, startups, and society.

Transcribed - Published: 2 July 2025