GROK 4.20 and the "SOCIETY OF MINDS"
AI Pod by Wes Roth and Dylan Curious | Artificial Intelligence News and Interviews With Experts
Wes Roth and Dylan Curious
5.0 • 2 Ratings
🗓️ 10 March 2026
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to another episode of the Wes and Dylan podcast! In this packed episode, we dive headfirst into the brand-new beta release of Grok 4.20 and its mind-bending "swarm intelligence."
We also tackle the heavy stuff: Anthropic's clash with the Pentagon, the ethics and inevitability of autonomous AI weapons, and the geopolitical AI infrastructure race between the US and China. On a lighter note, Wes shares the hilarious (and slightly terrifying) story of accidentally leaking his credit card on a live stream—and how the community saved the day. Finally, we pull back the curtain on Wes's new project: building a fully autonomous, AI-run news enterprise to test out the wild west of GEO (Generative Engine Optimization).
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| 0:00.0 | 2% of the world can code, I think. |
| 0:02.8 | And that's about to flip to where 100% of the people can create software on the map. |
| 0:07.3 | I don't like the idea of like a huge war machine sort of to actually be like intelligently moving in a direction that we have to then counter with like even more intelligent non-war machines constantly. |
| 0:17.9 | With agents like this, anybody can build a fairly complicated piece of software. |
| 0:22.6 | Just need to kind of work as an entire planet because on the other end is everything we want. |
| 0:27.6 | When you just allow the entire, more people, whether that's the entire world or just more people to contribute their ideas, stuff just blows up and like you find genius in the most unlikely |
| 0:40.4 | places. |
| 0:42.2 | What up? |
| 0:43.7 | What's going on? |
| 0:44.7 | Welcome back to another episode of the Wes and Dylan podcast. |
| 0:49.2 | We got some big news for you today. |
| 0:51.0 | First and foremost, Grok 4.20. |
| 0:56.5 | Then we also are talking about OpenEI and OpenClaw and tons of other stuff. I actually have something cooking that I wanted |
| 1:05.1 | to talk about. But I guess, Dylan, do you want to start us up? Yeah, we can start with the updates. |
| 1:10.0 | Yeah. So pretty So pretty fascinating. |
| 1:13.2 | Like not everybody seems to have it all rolled out right now, but there is a new |
| 1:17.7 | gruck on the market, and it has swarm intelligence. |
| 1:21.7 | I guess it's got four different agent swarms that are in. |
| 1:25.7 | What else do they have for the headline here? Specialized agents |
| 1:29.5 | work together to solve complex problem. Problems. I don't know. Let's go. Maybe I'll go experiment |
| 1:35.0 | with it. Let's see what else. But yeah, Grec 4.2 is the newest one and it is out now. I'm looking |
| 1:41.0 | for a new model. I'm, you know, the ads are starting to roll out on chat GPT, so I think I'm kind of at my last, my last month of the $200 plan. I'm going to be switching over. So I'm excited to see if Grock 4-2 actually lives up to the main reason I use it for kind of like tracking down news. It seems like it's plugged into Twitter. |
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