Avi Loeb reveals the truth about 3I/ATLAS
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Wes Roth and Dylan Curious
5.0 • 2 Ratings
🗓️ 22 December 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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In this episode of Wes and Dylan Interview, we dive deep into Avi Loeb’s bold idea that humanity may soon meet a cosmic neighbor whose wisdom dwarfs ours, reshaping belief itself. Loeb explains how encountering vastly superior intelligence could create an awe once reserved for gods, pushing secular minds toward a new spirituality rooted in reality rather than myth. The conversation explores how traditional doctrines might seem parochial beside undeniable evidence of a civilizational older sibling dwelling among the stars. Prepare to rethink religion, humility, and humanity’s place in the universe after listening to this mind-stretching exchange beginning to end.
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| 0:00.0 | Once we encounter alien intelligence superior to ours, we might have a sense of awe that is similar to traditional religions. |
| 0:09.5 | The second type of AI is alien intelligence. That's what I'm trying to find. Life should have started on Mars before it started on Earth. |
| 0:18.4 | And maybe it was transferred to Earth through rocks. |
| 0:21.6 | What Elon Musk wants to do going to Mars, in that case would be just like going back to our childhood home. |
| 0:27.6 | It's possible that life was seeded in the solar system from outside. |
| 0:31.6 | Instead of us spending millions to billions of years, traveling to other stars, |
| 0:35.6 | here we have objects that made that |
| 0:38.6 | trip. We better take advantage of that. My name is Avi Lobb, and I'm a professor of science at |
| 0:45.4 | Harvard University, the director of the Institute for Theory and Computation, and the head of the |
| 0:51.2 | Galileo project right now. And I used to have many other leadership positions over the past decade. |
| 0:56.8 | Thank you so much for being here. |
| 0:58.1 | We're so honored overjoy to be able to have a chance to talk to you. |
| 1:02.2 | So we are a little bit outside of like sort of the field. |
| 1:05.2 | So we're catching up and learning. |
| 1:06.3 | If we say something wrong, please feel free to correct us. |
| 1:08.8 | But we kind of wanted to present us to our audience, |
| 1:11.2 | lots of conversations about, for example, 3i Atlas. In fact, if I'm correct, the time, the release |
| 1:17.9 | of this interview will coincide with 3i Atlas passing at its closest point to the earth. |
| 1:24.7 | So I think that's kind of exciting. But so I think most people who don't follow |
| 1:29.8 | this stuff would be surprised to find out that we've observed only three interstellar, |
| 1:34.6 | interstellar objects. We have the O Muamua, Borsov, and now Atlas. So can we talk a little bit |
| 1:40.8 | about that? Why is this, why are we only now beginning to see them? |
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