The Secret to Creating Videogames With AI | Vibe Coding Entire Games From Scratch with Max Hertan
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Wes Roth and Dylan Curious
5.0 • 2 Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2025
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into how Max built a fully playable AI-powered language learning game—without writing a single line of code. Using “vibe coding,” GPT-5, Cursor, and Suno, Max crafted a roguelike deck-builder that teaches Swedish through monster battles, sentence puzzles, and addictively fun mechanics. We explore game design with AI agents, balancing cards with LLMs, voiceovers via 11 Labs, animations with retro sprite tools, and building in Phaser.js. Max shares how taste, strategy, and persistence now outweigh engineering—and why the next era of gaming will be built by creators, not coders.
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| 0:00.0 | I think you can play around with vibe coding and push it pretty far. |
| 0:03.5 | For someone that doesn't want to learn engineering, it's amazing. |
| 0:06.0 | The fact that with someone with no design experience, no game development experience |
| 0:10.0 | has done this in like four months. |
| 0:13.0 | I would imagine best case scenario, this is a few hundred thousand dollars and, you know, |
| 0:19.0 | at least a year, year and a half, |
| 0:21.9 | if you're coding it all. |
| 0:23.5 | It's like solving a problem that I have specifically, which is I want to learn a language, |
| 0:27.6 | I want to make it more fun, I want to have productive downtime. |
| 0:31.2 | And so I built something where I'm now actually getting the desired outcome. |
| 0:35.6 | The goal is to like launch this on iPhone and Android and be like, you know, on their app stores. |
| 0:42.6 | I'm Max. |
| 0:43.9 | I have sold a couple of companies and I've been, I guess for the last year plus just been |
| 0:51.6 | absolutely obsessed with AI and playing around with it. |
| 0:54.5 | And right now I'm building an AI game studio where we use vibe coding to build the entire |
| 1:01.0 | game, no engineering so far that's needed to build the entire game. |
| 1:04.8 | And my current project is building games that teach language. |
| 1:09.7 | So how do we get all the addictiveness of your favorite game with all the benefit of your |
| 1:16.1 | best language learning app and using AI to kind of power that whole process? |
| 1:20.2 | Thank you so much for being here. |
| 1:21.3 | This was such an interesting thing. |
| 1:23.3 | This is definitely a very special intersection for me between kind of AI and gaming. |
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