Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

Mark and Jonathan sit down and review this past year by talking about the transition and sharing a top 10 list of things 9Marks did.

Transcribed - Published: 10 December 2025

How should people in ministry relate to boredom and the nature of repetition? Mark and Jonathan talk about the good and the concerns on how we relate to those things. You can enter the giveaway at mbts.edu/pastorstalk

Transcribed - Published: 2 December 2025

As a pastor, talking to the church about money and the budget could be difficult for several reasons. In this episode Jonathan and Mark talk to Jamie Dunlop about his experience when he talks to the church about the budget.

Transcribed - Published: 25 November 2025

Does the Bible require pastors to officiate weddings? How should we think about christian marriage ceremonies? In this episode Mark and Jonathan discuss the practice of weddings.

Transcribed - Published: 18 November 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk with Taylor Hartley on the new issue of Church Matters and on the Ordinances.

Transcribed - Published: 4 November 2025

Finally! After 300 episodes we cover the topic of Congregationalism. Mark and Jonathan discuss the biblical evidence and its helpfulness for the life of the church

Transcribed - Published: 14 October 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk to Aaron and Harshit about their book Prioritizing Missions in the Church and how important it is for the life of the church.

Transcribed - Published: 7 October 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk to Vinicius Musselman Pimentel about christianity in Brazil and book publishing.

Transcribed - Published: 30 September 2025

How is prison ministry done and how does it connect to the local church? Can you have a church inside of a prison? Jonathan Leeman interviews Jamey Norman and Sean DeMars.

Transcribed - Published: 23 September 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk to John Musyimi about the release and the content of the Africa Statement on Prosperity Gospel and Word of Faith Theology.

Transcribed - Published: 16 September 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk to Issam about the state of Christianity in Lebanon.

Transcribed - Published: 9 September 2025

Mark and Jonathan interview John Folmar and Scott Logsdon on their new Church-Centered Missions book Prioritizing the Church in Missions.

Transcribed - Published: 2 September 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk to Zach and Garrett on how they seek to love their wives well while pastoring their churches.

Transcribed - Published: 26 August 2025

On this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark about his friendship with John MacArthur.

Transcribed - Published: 19 August 2025

Jonathan selects two winners for the 300th episode giveaway!

Transcribed - Published: 3 June 2025

In the last few decades France has become more secular. In this episode, Mark and Jonathan interview pastor Matthieu Giralt about the state of Christianity and his personal church experience.

Transcribed - Published: 27 May 2025

To celebrate the 300th episode milestone, Mark and Jonathan answer some of the questions that were submitted by the community.

Transcribed - Published: 20 May 2025

There are many "Christians"communities out there, but do they proclaim the biblical gospel? Mark and Jonathan talk to Josh Waldner who grew up in a Hutterites colony.

Transcribed - Published: 13 May 2025

Why did Alex duke write From Eden to Egypt? Mark and Jonathan interview Alex on the burden behind the book.

Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2025

Why did Alex duke write From Eden to Egypt? Mark and Jonathan interview Alex on the burden behind the book.

Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2025

Jonathan and Mark share how they structure their libraries and also discuss how much importance pastors should give to their libraries.

Transcribed - Published: 29 April 2025

There are seasons in a pastor's life when they could feel spiritually dry. In this episode, Mark and Jonathan, alongside 2 friends, think practically about what to do in those seasons.

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2025

Jonathan talks to Samuel James about an article he wrote and together consider how maturity should look like inside of the church in light of the times we live in.

Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk about the pastor's personal evangelism and consider how to carefully think about how we should relate to it. Related Resources: Evangelism by Mack Stiles How Do I Get Started in Evangelism? by Mack Stiles What If I'm Discouraged in My Evangelism? by Isaac Adams The Gospel and Personal Evangelism by Mark Dever

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk to the author of A Light on the Hill, which tells the history of a church 5 blocks from the US Capitol: Capitol Hill Baptist Church.

Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2025

Are there other qualifications for considering men as elders aside from the Bible's? In this episode Jonathan and Mark discuss what other things could be considered when nominating elders.

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the good desire some pastors have to write outside of church ministry and how to think about it. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk with the President of Poiema (a Spanish publisher) about the state of Christianity in Colombia.

Transcribed - Published: 11 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Caleb Morell interviews Mark Dever about some general practices of his private prayer life. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.

Transcribed - Published: 4 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman discuss a way to possibly run your church staff. Subscribe to our new podcast: A Storm in the Desert

Transcribed - Published: 25 February 2025

Introducing a new podcast from 9Marks—A Storm in the Desert. In 1972, at the base of a Swiss mountain, God saved a man named Mack Stiles. Two decades later, John Folmar “accepted Jesus as his personal Savior”; he doesn’t know even where he first heard that phrase. What happens in the next quarter-century is a testament to God’s commitment to use faithful, ordinary ministry to effect fruitful, extraordinary change. A Storm in the Desert tells this story. The first act in our story covers a lot of ground—from an icy crevice on a Swiss mountain to a below-freezing night capped off by the fiery Billy Graham. It involves a surprising conversion that eventually leads to a transatlantic flight on an empty plane. This is the story of Mack and Leeann. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.

Transcribed - Published: 21 February 2025

Can one belong before believing? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Caleb Morell discuss the evangelistic power of exclusivity. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.

Transcribed - Published: 18 February 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about service reviews. What is it? What do you talk about during service reviews? What if some feedback is too harsh? Mark Dever shares how the lead pastor can utilize this time to not only make the services better in the future, but also pastor and shepherd his staff and members. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/

Transcribed - Published: 11 February 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Alex Duke and Alberto Jaquez about A Storm in the Desert, a new podcast series by 9Marks. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/

Transcribed - Published: 4 February 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Eric Yee, lead pastor of Harvest Mission Community Church of Jakarta, about Christianity in Indonesia.

Transcribed - Published: 17 December 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk again about the nuts and bolts of pastoral internship in a local church.

Transcribed - Published: 10 December 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat about how pastors can be both convictional and charitable.

Transcribed - Published: 3 December 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about pastoral internships

Transcribed - Published: 26 November 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about small groups and how they can help the church while it not being an essential part of what a church is.

Transcribed - Published: 19 November 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how sound ecclesiology protects the gospel in a local church.

Transcribed - Published: 5 November 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how to lead inductive bible studies.

Transcribed - Published: 29 October 2024

In this episode, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Tiago Oliveira, a pastor of First Baptist Church of Lisbon, about the state of Christianity in Lisbon.

Transcribed - Published: 22 October 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Matt Smethurst, a pastor of River City Baptist Church, on the importance of ecclesiology for a church plant.

Transcribed - Published: 8 October 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about our newest Church Matters: Seasons in a Pastor's Life.

Transcribed - Published: 1 October 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Grant Borg, pastor of Church of the Risen King Jesus, about his spiritual journey and the state of Christianity in Australia.

Transcribed - Published: 24 September 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Mark Feather and Alex Duke about how to lead youth group with the whole church in mind. Related resources: – Our Main Goals for Youth Ministry – Youth Ministry and the Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self – LGBTQ+ Policies: What Do We Do about Youth Group?

Transcribed - Published: 17 September 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Dennis Boris, a pastor of Almaty Bible Church in Kazakhstan, about the state of Christianity and local churches.

Transcribed - Published: 10 September 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Aaron Menikoff, Greg Gilbert, Juan Sanchez, and Sebastian Traeger about a new network of like-minded churches: the ACME Fellowship. Check out ACMEfellowship.org for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 3 September 2024

Pastors Talk is back for season 9! In this episode, Jonathan Leeman interviews Phil Newton and Bob Johnson about pastoral transition and retirement. Related Resources: Articles: Preparing Pastors for Retirement by Brad Thayer, There’s No Such Thing as “Retiring” From Ministry by David Gough Journal: Seasons in a Pastor's Life

Transcribed - Published: 27 August 2024

Many pastors rightly desire to reach the next generation. But how should they? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Kevin DeYoung on his new book, The (Not-So-Secret) Secret to Reaching the Next Generation

Transcribed - Published: 28 May 2024