Overview
341 Episodes
In the season finale of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman is joined by Ligon Duncan and Michael Lawrence to discuss the state of the pastoral pipeline — examining why fewer men are entering ministry, the role of demographics and seminary debt, and what healthy churches and seminaries can do about it.
Transcribed - Published: 2 June 2026
In part three of their series on raising up leaders, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever work through nine practical principles Mark uses to identify and develop future pastors — from spotting qualified men and extending trust early, to delegating well, cultivating feedback loops, embracing a healthy view of authority, and modeling clarity and humility. Along the way they discuss why spending time with a few people often matters more than chasing a platform, and why a senior pastor who always wins the vote is quietly undermining his own eldership.
Transcribed - Published: 26 May 2026
Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever continue their conversation on raising up leaders, exploring the connection between discipleship, evangelism, and church planting, how to measure ministry fruitfulness beyond numbers, and what it means to steward your church for the next pastor.
Transcribed - Published: 19 May 2026
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark dive into the essential, yet often challenging, practice of raising up leaders and passing out authority. They discuss what it takes to build a ministry around giving authority away rather than consolidating it.
Transcribed - Published: 12 May 2026
Hebrews 2:1 warns believers to pay close attention to the gospel message to avoid drifting away from their faith. Mark and Jonathan talk to Jared Wilson about his book on this topic and how believers should be thinking carefully about the centrality of the gospel in their lives.
Transcribed - Published: 5 May 2026
How should pastors think about their work hours? What are some principles that churches and pastors can consider for pastors to get reimbursed? Mark and Jonathan talk with Garrett and Mike on lessons learned.
Transcribed - Published: 28 April 2026
Should Christians talk about discerning the repentance of other Christians? What are the instructions from the New Testament to churches? Mark and Jonathan invite Caleb Morell to discuss this.
Transcribed - Published: 21 April 2026
How to pastor and walk with those in the unique season of life when they can't leave home and approaching death. Mark and Jonathan discuss practical ideas on how to be mindful as pastors.
Published: 14 April 2026
Jonathan and Mark Feather talk to Joshua Schooping, a former Eastern Orthodox priest, on how to pastor church members who may be considering joining the Eastern Orthodox church.
Transcribed - Published: 7 April 2026
Jonathan, Mark and Mark Feather talk to Joshua Schooping, a former Eastern Orthodox priest, on the reasons he had to leave that church.
Transcribed - Published: 31 March 2026
Jonathan talks to Reuben Bredenhof, author of The Ministry of Small Things. They consider the ordinary ministry of pastors, focusing on all the small things they must be faithful to, and reflect on the temptation of pastoral cynicism.
Transcribed - Published: 24 March 2026
If Jesus is the great deacon, what does that say about the office of deacon in our churches? Jonathan sits down with Larry Lazarus to discuss why it is important for churches to know the job descriptions of deacons.
Transcribed - Published: 17 March 2026
Have you ever wondered why it's important for congregations to know their pastor's job description according to the Bible? Jonathan sits down with his senior pastor, Larry Lazarus, to consider this question.
Transcribed - Published: 10 March 2026
Mark talks to H.B. Charles Jr. on ministerial calling and how he prepares for preaching.
Transcribed - Published: 3 March 2026
Mark sits down with H.B. Charles Jr. to talk about his ministerial journey and how God has used him.
Transcribed - Published: 24 February 2026
Is there a doctrine of religious liberty in the Bible? Mark and Jonathan talk with Andrew Walker on how to think about this question.
Transcribed - Published: 17 February 2026
On this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk with Matt Rhodes about his new book, Persecution in Missions.
Transcribed - Published: 10 February 2026
On this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan invite Stephen Yuille and Caleb Morell to talk about the writing of John Cotton, focusing on his perspective on Congregationalism.
Transcribed - Published: 3 February 2026
How should christians think about protests that stop church services? Mark and Jonathan talk about the recent disruption that happened at St. Paul Church.
Transcribed - Published: 27 January 2026
Mark and Jonathan talk to Jimmy Scroggins about similarities and difference on how 9Marks' principle apply in a mega church context.
Transcribed - Published: 20 January 2026
Mark and Jonathan sit down and review this past year by talking about the transition and sharing a top 10 list of things 9Marks did.
Transcribed - Published: 10 December 2025
How should people in ministry relate to boredom and the nature of repetition? Mark and Jonathan talk about the good and the concerns on how we relate to those things. You can enter the giveaway at mbts.edu/pastorstalk
Transcribed - Published: 2 December 2025
As a pastor, talking to the church about money and the budget could be difficult for several reasons. In this episode Jonathan and Mark talk to Jamie Dunlop about his experience when he talks to the church about the budget.
Transcribed - Published: 25 November 2025
Does the Bible require pastors to officiate weddings? How should we think about christian marriage ceremonies? In this episode Mark and Jonathan discuss the practice of weddings.
Transcribed - Published: 18 November 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk with Taylor Hartley on the new issue of Church Matters and on the Ordinances.
Transcribed - Published: 4 November 2025
Finally! After 300 episodes we cover the topic of Congregationalism. Mark and Jonathan discuss the biblical evidence and its helpfulness for the life of the church
Transcribed - Published: 14 October 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk to Aaron and Harshit about their book Prioritizing Missions in the Church and how important it is for the life of the church.
Transcribed - Published: 7 October 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk to Vinicius Musselman Pimentel about christianity in Brazil and book publishing.
Transcribed - Published: 30 September 2025
How is prison ministry done and how does it connect to the local church? Can you have a church inside of a prison? Jonathan Leeman interviews Jamey Norman and Sean DeMars.
Transcribed - Published: 23 September 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk to John Musyimi about the release and the content of the Africa Statement on Prosperity Gospel and Word of Faith Theology.
Transcribed - Published: 16 September 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk to Issam about the state of Christianity in Lebanon.
Transcribed - Published: 9 September 2025
Mark and Jonathan interview John Folmar and Scott Logsdon on their new Church-Centered Missions book Prioritizing the Church in Missions.
Transcribed - Published: 2 September 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk to Zach and Garrett on how they seek to love their wives well while pastoring their churches.
Transcribed - Published: 26 August 2025
On this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark about his friendship with John MacArthur.
Transcribed - Published: 19 August 2025
Jonathan selects two winners for the 300th episode giveaway!
Transcribed - Published: 3 June 2025
In the last few decades France has become more secular. In this episode, Mark and Jonathan interview pastor Matthieu Giralt about the state of Christianity and his personal church experience.
Transcribed - Published: 27 May 2025
To celebrate the 300th episode milestone, Mark and Jonathan answer some of the questions that were submitted by the community.
Transcribed - Published: 20 May 2025
There are many "Christians"communities out there, but do they proclaim the biblical gospel? Mark and Jonathan talk to Josh Waldner who grew up in a Hutterites colony.
Transcribed - Published: 13 May 2025
Why did Alex duke write From Eden to Egypt? Mark and Jonathan interview Alex on the burden behind the book.
Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2025
Why did Alex duke write From Eden to Egypt? Mark and Jonathan interview Alex on the burden behind the book.
Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2025
Jonathan and Mark share how they structure their libraries and also discuss how much importance pastors should give to their libraries.
Transcribed - Published: 29 April 2025
There are seasons in a pastor's life when they could feel spiritually dry. In this episode, Mark and Jonathan, alongside 2 friends, think practically about what to do in those seasons.
Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2025
Jonathan talks to Samuel James about an article he wrote and together consider how maturity should look like inside of the church in light of the times we live in.
Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk about the pastor's personal evangelism and consider how to carefully think about how we should relate to it. Related Resources: Evangelism by Mack Stiles How Do I Get Started in Evangelism? by Mack Stiles What If I'm Discouraged in My Evangelism? by Isaac Adams The Gospel and Personal Evangelism by Mark Dever
Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025
Mark and Jonathan talk to the author of A Light on the Hill, which tells the history of a church 5 blocks from the US Capitol: Capitol Hill Baptist Church.
Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2025
Are there other qualifications for considering men as elders aside from the Bible's? In this episode Jonathan and Mark discuss what other things could be considered when nominating elders.
Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2025
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the good desire some pastors have to write outside of church ministry and how to think about it. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/
Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2025
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk with the President of Poiema (a Spanish publisher) about the state of Christianity in Colombia.
Transcribed - Published: 11 March 2025
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Caleb Morell interviews Mark Dever about some general practices of his private prayer life. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.
Transcribed - Published: 4 March 2025
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman discuss a way to possibly run your church staff. Subscribe to our new podcast: A Storm in the Desert
Transcribed - Published: 25 February 2025
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