Hi, this is Jonathan Lehman and welcome to this episode of Nine Marks Pastors Talk.

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dot org forward slash talk today i have a very very special guest very special very special

very special my own pastor yeah it's true. Larry Lazarus.

That's me.

Is that your real name?

Yeah. It's not a stage name. Has it always been? It's always been. Larry, Jason, Lazarus. It's not Lawrence. Yeah. But Larry, Jason, Lazarus, yes. And Larry has been serving as the pastor of Chevroley Baptist Church where I'm a member

and sometimes elder presently on sabbatical, but I've had the privilege of serving with

him as an elder and the Lord willing will again soon.

We'll see, man.

But what do you mean by that?

We'll see.

Well, the congregation we'll see. We'll see. Well, the congregation will see.

We'll see.

That's promising.

And I've been a privilege to watch him, pastor, even more importantly, for the year of 2025.

You just passed your one year anniversary.

Before that, he'd pastored in Pittman, New Jersey for a dozen years plus.

15 or 16 years, yeah.

15 or 16 when he came down and joined us. And it's just, brother, it's been such a privilege

listening to you, benefiting from your preaching, watching you jump in, dive in to pastoring,

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