Hi, this is Jonathan Lehman.

This is Mark Devere.

Welcome to this episode of Nine Marks, Pastors Talk.

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We're trying to, like, help build healthy churches so that you can give good counsel to your friends and other cities and around the world. Anyway, go to 9Mark.org forward slash talk. Mark, we're going to pick up the conversation right where we left it off before on a different day. Okay. About raising up leaders. Okay. We began that conversation. I'm thinking this is part two or something like that. You think there's another part left in this thing? Oh, I think we've got a couple. Because, as I said in that conversation, and folks can go back and listen to it, you're kind of known for this. This is sort of your thing, right? God has blessed you. I feel like I'm known for intern papers.

I feel like I read the intern papers. You're kind of proving my point. Okay. What kind of man gives himself to reading so many intern papers? Well, the kind of man who has interns. What kind of man is interns? Well, the kind of man who's trying to raise up future pastors. So you give a talk at the end of every weekend on raising up leaders. And sometimes people invite you to give a talk like that and you give that talk.

That talk began by desiring God asking you to come give it at their pastor's process.

Okay, exactly.

So you give that talk over and over.

Why do you give that talk over and over?

Why is it important to you, that topic, raising up leaders?

Because it seems to be that's at the very kernel of how, very core of how Christianity

grows.

Pastors.

Yeah.

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