Hi, this is Jonathan Lehman.

Welcome to this episode of Nine Marks, Pastors Talk.

Nine Marks exists to help pastors build healthy churches.

Learn more at nine marks.org.

Or if you feel like supporting the ministry, go to nine marks.org for slash talk.

And today I have a couple of guests with me, a couple of one old friend, one new friend, old friend, Sean DeMars, pastor of 6th Avenue, community church. Community Church, yeah.

Yeah, community church. Um, though presently, community, 6th Avenue community church is unaffiliated.

You're just like a community of believers. Or are you affiliated with anybody? You used to be affiliated with.

With the Church of God. Yes. So as a Church of God Church, we revitalized it. Now we are

Acme Church. We've invested in Anvils and dynamite. And that's going well. We're going to be

changing the name of our church soon because we had a fire. Church burned. We can't be 6th Avenue community church if we're not on 6th Avenue. So. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure you're going to be waiting with baited breath. So you're not building a building in the same spot? No, unfortunately, it's been a logistical nightmare to do that, okay. Do you know where you're going to build?

Lord Will and we're on the land now. We have a trailer on a, because we're in Alabama. We're on a trailer on a piece of land that we bought. See, I couldn't have made that joke, but you could make that joke because it's my lived experience. Yeah. That's right. Jamie, have you ever heard of, who I haven't introduced yet, but just still on Sean,

have you ever heard of Room for Nuance?

I have.

I am a fan.

Sean, how long have you been doing the excellent podcast, Room for Nuisance?

Oh, thank you for being legitimately.

Thank you for being such an encourager, brother.

Been doing it for about two years now.

Okay.

And how many episodes did you say you've done?

I think, well, what do we have recorded?

...