Labeled: The Stories, Rumors & Legends of Tooth & Nail Records

Chris Conley is nothing if not original. His ability and willingness to listen to and follow an inner voice led him to an early arrival into the all-ages music scene with great influence. Saves The Day continued to evolve musically and did not get stuck in a certain sound even though commercial success would have wanted just that. After helping set the tone for the scene and being signed to a major label (Dreamworks), Saves The Day delivered their album, In Reverie, which was another evolution of direction & departure from what the radio or even their fans were expecting. This lead to them being quickly abandoned by the label. Nonetheless, it’s Chris’ and my favorite album of theirs. We discuss this and much more including some close ties to my band, so please enjoy this conversation with Chris Conley.

Transcribed - Published: 13 October 2023

Silverstein is in the club of bands that are true workhorses - continuously active year after year while racking up new achievements. They seem to benefit greatly from being able to self-manage, adapt, engage in long range decision making, while always trying new things. They have played over 2500 shows and have over a million monthly listeners on Spotify. In this conversation with lead singer Shane Told, we cover the Canadian local scene that they come from, getting on and off Victory Records, and many other reflections from the last 20 years. Shane also has a great podcast of his own, Lead Singer Syndrome, so check that out too.

Transcribed - Published: 19 September 2023

Today we have a convo with Chad Gardner of Kings Kaleidoscope. What's most intriguing about Chad is that he is an incredibly efficient, high-level, high-energy problem solver. He fits a pattern that we see over and over again in this world of kids who come from families with engineering and technical talent and use this to power high level creativity and art. chad's ability to lead creative teams and react and improvise is what leads to the aesthetic and musical excellence that Kings Kaleidoscope is known for. They are also known for having a rebellious spirit from within the Christian music and worship worlds, pushing boundaries, and an extremely DIY approach to everything. They have a new self-titled album out today, go listen on Spotify, and also a full US tour starting this week, go to https://kampkaleidoscope.com/ to find your city and get tickets. Listen to the new album https://ffm.to/kings-kaleidoscope.NQD

Transcribed - Published: 11 August 2023

Reese Roper is simply a legend. Five Iron Frenzy (FIF) was one of the first Christian bands truly existing in both the Christian and mainstream space. In the late 90s during the ska explosion, they achieved real commercial success, made a bold choice to stay on a small independent label, and were delivering absolutely scorching lyrics that were full of questions and critique - lyrics that challenged the existing cultural structures. Packaging those lyrics in the ska-punk package was a perfect move that paid off deeply to their fan base. FIF is also one of those bands that pioneered and cultivated their followers into super fans by delivering on multiple layers of depth across time and staying true to their principles. They are heroes of the scene and certainly paved the way for the next generation. They are now releasing an incredibly cool vinyl box set of all their music. You gotta check it out and the promotional video for it. I’ll link it in the notes because it delivers the perfect amount of silliness and humor that you’d expect from FIF. I thought this would be a great chance to talk to Reese and get his reflections on some of the special things they have accomplished plus some of the challenges. Link to the FIF boxset promotional video

Transcribed - Published: 31 July 2023

JT Woodruff is one of the most intentional and efficient leaders and operators in the history of the scene. His band Hawthorne Heights has had absolutely huge ups and downs. Ups like their first 2 records going gold and creating one of the most iconic emo songs ever, Ohio Is For Lovers, which has almost 100 million Spotify plays. The downs include a lengthy, costly lawsuit with their label as well as the death of a best friend and bandmate, Casey Calvert, in 2007. Hawthorne Heights has handled their career incredibly well, racking up over 20 years of successful continuous activity while continuing to innovate, adapt, and grow as people and as a band. JT is one of the most principled people i know, and his values and principles have guided him well across the spectrum from the smallest details of being punk and DIY to large scale business moves like creating the ...Is For Lovers Festival which is becoming wildly successful.

Transcribed - Published: 5 July 2023

Mayday Parade is an incredibly well-balanced group of guys. Balanced in a way that equates to functioning well as a healthy team in a high output, low drama, great to be around way. Mayday has been able to remain extremely hard-working and consistent for over 15 years in a landscape full of ups & downs and unhealthiness. They have achieved long-term success and have helped write the map on how things are done properly in this scene. Most importantly, they have built up and now benefit from an unimaginably dedicated and supportive fanbase. Join me as I catch up with Derek Sanders and discuss all of this plus much more!

Transcribed - Published: 21 June 2023

Jason Dunn started Hawk Nelson in 2000 with his pals northeast of Ontario where they were like thousands of other aspiring garage bands who just loved to make noise until a connection with Trevor McNevan towed them in to ride the wave of pop punk right into the height of Tooth & Nail's dominance. In the decade that followed they enjoyed great success, became a business with a full team and commercial momentum of their own until the commercial trends began to shift leaving Jason to feel an internal dissonance that he didn't know how to resolve...

Transcribed - Published: 7 June 2023

The mind of Brandon Ebel is quite a unique thing. He has an ability to rapidly shift his perspectives to analyze things at multiple levels, and has a strong bias toward action and a incredible eye for talent of all kinds. He seems to be all over the place but a better description might be that he has a laser focus and intensity that is consistent on a different horizon that perhaps only he understands. His special abilities to adapt and find consistency in extremely dynamic environments like the music industry have had a profound influence on many people over many years and seems very likely to continue.

Transcribed - Published: 23 May 2023

Capital Lights came along in the peak of Tooth & Nail’s power and influence. Oddly, in this period there there are many bands who seemed to have everything going for them and were musically outstanding, yet their full potential was never realized. Bryson Phillips is a a truly gifted singer and songwriter that has been praised by both Brandon Ebel & Aaron Sprinkle over the years. I have had no personal experience with him though, so I really enjoyed getting to hear his perspective of the time he spent in the scene. I’m sure you will too!  Capital Lights on Spotify Listen to His Favorite Christmas Story

Transcribed - Published: 28 February 2023

Special drop here!. Matt and Devin got the chance to preview the 2023 Furnace Fest lineup and have Chad Johnson and Johnny Grimes join the show so we could all react to it together. Emery is not playing this year, but we love the fest and we love Chad and Johnny and just like talking about all these bands, the history of the scene and fest and the future of it all. Grab your tickets at: https://www.furnacefest.us/

Transcribed - Published: 23 February 2023

Josh Porter is one of the most interesting frontmen from our scene and is of a particular type whose spirit of rebellion resonates across many mediums, one of which being Showbread’s music. Their legendary set at Furnace Fest last year seemed to be a testament to how deeply connected their fans were. This podcast spends a lot of time analyzing the musical, relational and professional choices that bands make. We are often asked why we don’t get into people’s faith more on the podcast, given that it’s such a central theme. Certain people just have a more inherent energy toward the spiritual things, and Josh Porter is one of those people. In this case, he has a new book called Death To Deconstruction, and it seemed like an ideal opportunity to give more perspective into how Josh’s mind works.

Transcribed - Published: 2 December 2022

If you have been paying any attention to Tooth & Nail over the last several years, you can tell that they have a special regard for Tyson Motsenbocker. Tyson seems to always have been able to make great connections with other artists with both his personality and his songwriting. He’s great as a solo performer and on another level when he has a full band. I always enjoy hanging with him. I do love his new record, Milk Teeth, and we start this episode with an amazing story that caused us to postpone the original recording of this episode. Join the Labeled Facebook Group!

Transcribed - Published: 18 October 2022

It’s the inaugural music draft! Matt Carter and Devin Shelton join to make their picks for a team of songwriters from the Tooth and Nail / Solid State universe. Lots of weirdness in this one, as we are friends with and have played in bands with people who are eligible to be drafted.  Voting will go up 24 hours after this episode airs in both the Labeled FB Group and the Emeryland FB Group. It's free to join the groups so hop in and cast your vote! Join the Labeled FB Group Join the Emeryland FB Group

Transcribed - Published: 7 October 2022

Jason Wisdom himself falls into a certain archetype. A Tooth & Nail kid with a uniquely-wired mind who was inspired by bands like MXPX and Zao - and the range of possibilities for mixing various styles, genres, and mediums of expression that is permitted in the underground scene. Becoming the Archetype began in 2005 and released records until 2012. They are now back in full force after a decade-long hiatus with a new concept record entitled Children of The Great Extinction. Please join us as we discuss the entire history of the band from its humble origins to the recently-released 6th full-length release on Solid State.

Transcribed - Published: 9 September 2022

Today we’re talking to Nathan Richardson of Salt Creek. Nathan started promoting shows as a teenager in Nebraska, he started his own merchandise company, and he has continued to make connections while growing his DIY skills. It seems that Nathan has real gratitude, curiosity, motivation, and finds joy in all that he throws himself into. Salt Creek is a newer Tooth & Nail band who put out a great record last year called Out of The Sky. They will be on the last leg of Labeled Fest in Texas playing with Emery, Norma Jean, Aaron Gillespie, and Oh, Sleeper. Grab your tickets now! Follow Salt Creek on Spotify Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 24 August 2022

Furnace Fest means so much to so many different people. From the bands who performed, to the fans who attended. All voices in the Labeled community have truly gathered around this Festival in a deeply meaningful way. Today we're talking to Jason Zeimet, founder of UnoriginalVinyl, frequent collaborators on physical media projects with Solid State & Tooth & Nail, and former T&N/SS Director of A&R Chad Johnson about a timeless, totally unique project. In this intimate, vulnerable chat, the guys detail the process of creating DEAD ALIVE, a limited edition, hardcover, foil stamped, 200-page coffee-table book they have created that captures the electrifying photographic history and "direct-from-the-fan & band" accounts of the most uniquely-spirited music gathering in the last 20+ years. There is a very limited amount of these books available so you'll want to make sure you head to Unoriginal Vinyl at 12 EST on Wednesday, 8/17 to grab a copy before they're gone: https://unoriginal-vinyl.myshopify.com/ 32 EXTREMELY limited edition “alternate cover” exclusive vinyl versions of the three UOV Furnace Fest 2021 releases will also be put up with the book, in partnership with Solid State Records.

Transcribed - Published: 16 August 2022

Ernie and his band members in idle threat seem to have arrived at a very interesting time in Tooth & Nail/Solid State history. There is currently a resurgence of interest in raw, aggressive music that incorporates intimate, spacious, and emotional elements. idle threat has done a masterful job of absorbing the important feels of the last 30 years from grunge to emo while finding & pushing new boundaries & complexities. Get your Labeled Fest tickets @ LabeledUniverse.com

Transcribed - Published: 6 July 2022

his conversation with Kevin Klein from Valleyheart is a great look at how a modern artist sees the landscape today, and in what ways some things always stay the same in the midst of constant change. The one trend that continues to grow is the amount of control artists have over more and more layers of their art form, and why having clear vision and identifying constraints seems to matter more than ever. Valleyheart has a brand new Tooth & Nail album called Heal My Head out now, and its a terrific listen. Follow Valleyheart on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3xVyJGp Get your Labeled Fest tickets at LabeledUniverse.com Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 14 June 2022

The Ongoing Concept is one of the most DIY bands in the Tooth & Nail/Solid State catalog, and they have achieved many innovative things like building their own instruments from scratch. The journey they have been on has been shaped by those that came before, but is a long quest for the artist to have as much creative control as possible. That desire to control everything has disadvantages too and this all makes for a very interesting conversation with band leader Dawson Scholz. Follow The Ongoing Concept on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3PEUZuM Get your Labeled Fest tickets at LabeledUniverse.com Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 24 May 2022

In this episode, we get the chance to to talk about a bunch of people in the Labeled universe through the perspective of Seth Roberts whose band Watashi Wa is back and doing big things. Watashi Wa has a new album out on Tooth & Nail on which Seth has pulled together some awesome collaborations. Not only do they have a new record coming out, but they are also on the west coast leg of LABELED FEST for which Seth is working on the the art team to do all the tour visuals and design work. Matt has known Seth since the first Tooth & Nail Tour in 2004, and Seth has always been a great connector of people in every environment he is in. That has led him to a rich set of experiences. We loved getting to discuss that with him and I know you will too. Follow Watashi Wa on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3N6AXXT Get your Labeled Fest tickets at LabeledUniverse.com Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Presave People Like People! https://ffm.to/peoplelikepeople

Transcribed - Published: 12 May 2022

Lee Humerian was the drummer for Phinehas for nearly a decade. He is a very classic stereotype of a Tooth & Nail kid who followed his passion for music, energy and mission for God. Lee was drawn from music into full-time missions landing him in Ukraine in 2014. He and his family have made a home and life there during the escalating conflict over the last few years. I felt this was a great opportunity to get the perspective of someone from our world on a world that seems so foreign and unimaginable to me. This conversation is both fascinating, powerful & heartbreaking, and I’m glad you introduce you to a special person like Lee. I hope you get as much from this episode as I did. https://www.josiahventure.com/people-and-places/ukraine/9673 SONG LIST Phineas-The Rider As Cities Burn - This is it, This is it Beloved - Failure on my Lips

Transcribed - Published: 13 April 2022

Steve and Ben from Wolves At The Gate have been at this game for a long time, and their band is continually gaining momentum, skill, fans, press coverage & relationships. With the release of their 5th album, Eulogies, they are seeing the compounding rewards of those efforts. The band has been able to maintain a clear vision and knows exactly who they are. Their sound and approach to ministry have been unwavering, yet their music progresses. They remain DIY and hands-on in their organization. They seem to have made the transition from a new & upcoming Solid State band to what you would call a veteran, influential Solid State act. In this episode, we discuss some of the changes they have seen in the the business & technology and also the evolution of their process Follow Wolves at the Gate on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3uDquvq Shop their merch collection here: https://solidstate.merchnow.com/collections/wolves-at-the-gate Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Keep up with what’s happening in the Labeled Universe at LabeledUniverse.com Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 2 April 2022

Mark Lafay was is a big part of the Haste The Day story as you heard in the recent Jimmy Ryan and Stephen Keech HTD episodes. We really needed to speak with Mark as well to further color the stories and see what we might have missed. This is a very fun conversation, and a must listen if you enjoyed the last 2 HTD episodes

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2022

This episode is a continuation of the previous Haste The Day chapter with Jimmy Ryan, who was not a Tooth & Nail kid but found his way into the scene. Jimmy helped build a legendary Solid State band and then walked away from his dream. This left a giant hole which provided the opportunity for a Tooth & Nail kid if there ever was one, the multi-talented Stephen Keech, to walk into to a fairytale dream-come-true scenario and knock it out of the park - taking Haste The Day to an even higher level of success. Listen to Haste The Day on Spotify: spoti.fi/35H4bfO Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Keep up with what’s happening in the Labeled Universe at LabeledUniverse.com Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 16 March 2022

Jimmy Ryan, the original lead singer of Haste The Day, is in a rare category. His band was a breakout hit in the pinnacle of the Tooth & Nail/Solid State golden age, but Jimmy was NOT a Tooth & Nail kid. The rest of his band certainly were as they were youth group kids from a nice Indianapolis suburb when they joined forces with Jimmy. He was considerably older than them and, for better or worse, became the "tour dad.” Jimmy may not have grown up as a Tooth & Nail kid, but he was a perfect fit to continue the tradition of Solid State bands who would bring the intensity to the mission of mosh and ministry; he even ended up working at the label for a season! Listen to Haste The Day on Spotify: spoti.fi/35H4bfO Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Keep up with what’s happening in the Labeled Universe at LabeledUniverse.com Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Song list Snowbirds and Townies - Further Seems Forever Modern Day Prayer - Two Thirty Eight When Everything Falls - Haste the Day On My Side - Demon Hunter I Drive A Lot - Starflyer 69 Blue 42 - Haste the Day Breaking My Own Heart - Haste the Day

Transcribed - Published: 2 March 2022

The Moon is Down is one of the most influential albums in the entire Tooth & Nail catalog. Of course it is a fan favorite, but this one also checks the box in a big way as a named influence by countless artists, drummers, guitarists, song arrangers, and vocalists. Many of whom cite this album as helping them expand their minds to new possibilities and causing them to have creative breakthroughs. This conversation covers primarily the lead up to, capture, and impact of this classic album but also some great stories and interaction between the members and Matt. We loved making this episode and are honored to have had the opportunity. Buy the new Further Seems Forever - The Moon is Down 20th Anniversary Box Set at https://toothandnailrecords.merchnow.com/ Listen to FSF on Spotify!  https://spoti.fi/3rTipCZ Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Keep up with what’s happening in the Labeled Universe at LabeledUniverse.com Become a Labeled Member! Join us at  https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Song list Snowbirds and Townies - Further Seems Forever Coin Laundry Loser - Two Thirty Eight A New Desert Light - Further Seems Forever The Bradley - Further Seems Forever New Year's Project - Further Seems Forever Advent of a Miracle - Strongarm

Transcribed - Published: 15 February 2022

Ivoryline is one of those bands that accomplished a lot in a short time but due to the circumstances of reality did not have a career that was able to reach its full maturity. Their fairly short run gives us all that feeling of slight tragedy but also leaves us with a nostalgic feeling of what might have been or still could be. Ivoryline did 2 amazing records with Aaron Sprinkle, had rock radio hits, got on some great tours around the world, and just as quickly lost momentum as the scene, economy, and people's tastes began to change. At the request of many fans, Vocalist Jeremy Gray and Matt take some time to discuss this iconic band from inception to the end. Listen to Ivoryline on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3AV60Bp Watch and listen to the new Labeled Series: Deep Dives  https://link.chtbl.com/underoath Keep up with what's happening in the Labeled Universe at LabeledUniverse.com Become a Labeled Member! Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share  MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Song List Ivoryline - Instincts Ivoryline - Be Still And Breathe Ivoryline - Parade Ivoryline - The Healing mewithoutYou - Bullet to Binary Beloved - Failure On My Lips

Transcribed - Published: 3 February 2022

The Labeled Universe is expanding!  In addition to this Stories, Rumors, and Legends feed, we’re introducing A new labeled podcast called Deep Dives! This introductory episode looks at coming off of “Erase Me”, the band was filled with conflict over sonic direction and personal issues. Underoath found themselves at a crossroads and were forced to dig deep and reflect on their history within the DIY punk & hardcore scene and the passion they felt at the inception of the band. With that focus, the band made the bold decision to not have any outside input from producers and set off on their own creative silo.  Check out the video version of the episode here: https://link.chtbl.com/underoath

Transcribed - Published: 27 January 2022

Garrett and Thomas from Silent Planet join us for a discussion from the studio to talk about their new record Iridescent and beyond. In this episode, we discuss being a third or even fourth wave Solid State band along with their philosophy and process. Follow Silent Planet on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3nHveO5 Grab some Silent Planet merch here: https://silentplanetmerch.com/collections/all-1 Become a Labeled Member! Join us at  https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet? That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share Visit our podcast webpage: https://labeledpodcast.com/ MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Song List: Silent Planet - Panopticon Silent Planet - Trilogy Silent Planet - Alive, As a Housefire Haste The Day - Autumn  Underoath - A Boy Brushed Red Living In Black And White Come Wind - Clarity  Silent Planet - Orphan (Live @ Furnace Fest 2021) Silent Planet - Till We Have Faces Silent Planet - Iridescent Silent Planet - Translate the Night

Transcribed - Published: 19 January 2022

Doug Van Pelt has been focused on our music scene well before it ever existed. He was drawn to heavy music and then Christian music since he was a kid in the 70's. It’s safe to say that he has witnessed the entire phenomenon. What’s more, he literally made it his business to pay attention and share it with others. Doug is very entrepreneurial and began his own publication, HM, in the 80's. Doug is a phenomenal writer and journalist, but not a music “critic” so much as an enthusiast. He is  deeply analytical and a passionate fan. He sees special moments, people, groups, & stories and has spent his life trying to share the special experiences, meaning & beauty he finds in the heavy music & spiritual communities. Doug has observed and covered this movement expertly for the last 40 years. You can check out HM Magazine at https://hmmagazine.com/ Become a Labeled Member!  Join us at https://www.patreon.com/labeled Not ready to become a member yet?  That’s okay, you can still join us in the Labeled Facebook Group!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/2502620686459105/?ref=share Join the Furnace Fest Community Facebook Group to watch the Beloved Hometown Show this Friday at 8PM EST with a special Labeled production premiering afterwards. https://www.facebook.com/groups/462839947714853/?ref=share If you’d like to buy exclusive Beloved merch where all of the proceeds go to funding the next community project, head over to the virtual merch table. https://www.knucklebreakers.co/beloved-2022 Visit our podcast webpage: https://labeledpodcast.com/ MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Song List Lust Control - If You Fail Stavesacre - Gold and Silver MXPX - Chick Magnet mewithoutyou - In A Sweater Poorly Knit Norma Jean - Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste

Transcribed - Published: 5 January 2022

For this final Labeled episode of 2021, we are partnering with Aaron’s Sprinkle’s brand new podcast, Moontraveling. This episode takes a deep dive into Aaron’s many years at The Compound studio in Seattle working on many iconic Tooth & Nail albums along with some other amazing projects. Be sure to subscribe to the Moontraveling podcast and definitely check out Aaron’s brand new EP, Certainty. Great stuff - see you in 2022! Listen to Aaron’s podcast Moontraveling: spoti.fi/3E3g7ns Check out Aaron’s new EP Certainty: spoti.fi/3dWlWIQ Visit our podcast webpage: https://labeledpodcast.com/ MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 16 December 2021

It used to be that you could tell the reaction to an album by things like first week sales or reviews in major publications, but in 2021 it's a lot different. You can still feel the energy around an important release like this one, but the buzz comes from places like “reaction videos” from prominent YouTubers and other new media. It's a little bit of a different landscape, but there is still just an air about some records that indicates something special, some type of credibility, and The Fire Itself definitely seems to be one of those records. Sean from Phinehas has a sharp and unique mind that comes from what could be called the gamer generation or a millennial, but he shares qualities with emerging and younger generations in a way that is relevant to his approach to art, creativity, and engineering. Sean & I talk about his background and how he was and still is a gamer and how that has helped him with networking & forming relationships. We also talk about how music has evolved and how people consume it evolved, especially around the time of MySpace and digital music. Of course, we extensively discuss The Fire Itself album that is getting a tremendous amount of attention, the song-writing process and how Sean’s list-writing becomes songs. Listen to Phinehas' latest album The Fire Itself: https://spoti.fi/3G8swb1 Follow Phinehas on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3IbHNKc Buy Phinhas merch and The Fire Itself on Vinyl: https://solidstate.merchnow.com/collections/phinehas-1 Visit our podcast webpage: https://labeledpodcast.com/ MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Phinehas - The Fire Itself Phinehas - Eternally Apart Phinehas - In The Night Phinehas - Hell Below Haste The Day - Autumn As Cities Burn - Clouds As Cities Burn - Thus From My Lips, By Yours, My Sin Is Purged After The Burial - Pi (The Mercury God Of Infinity)

Transcribed - Published: 1 December 2021

Josh Kemble is someone who instantly strikes me as having two of my favorite qualities, mindfulness and authenticity. Combined, they give the experience of being present in a conversation while able to tie in multiple layers of meaning. It's almost as if Josh is aware of the experience he is creating in others, and that's key in crafting music or art that is going to connect with people. From the stories I've heard over the year and the way they are discussed, and from a few conversations I've had with Josh, it's obvious that Dogwood was a very self- aware and principled band whose micro-culture navigated the emergence of the San Diego pop punk scene of the late 90’s, and then was able to become part of the canon of important artists in our scene. Listen to Josh's Podcast - The Punk Chef's Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/1XGFbA884BaoDXFbchtnkB?si=e523795c1f8a4f2f If you're in Southern California, check out Harvest Kitchen where Josh is the executive chef! https://www.harvestkitchen.com/ Keep up with Solid State this October during their 13 Days of Halloween Vinyl Sale by following them on Instagram: https://instagram.com/solidstaterecords Visit our podcast webpage: https://labeledpodcast.com/ MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH Episode Song List Dogwood - Never Die Dogwood - Building a Better Me Stretch Arm Strong - When Sorrow Falls Pedro the Lion - Almost There Two Thirty Eight - The Sticks Are Woven In The Spokes Fit For A King - Backbreaker Dogwood - All Hands On Deck

Transcribed - Published: 19 October 2021

Furnace Fest was over a week ago but we’re still coming down from the FF high.  Brandon stops by my basement to talk about his top three Furnace Fest moments.Learn more about the upcoming Beloved hometown show that Knuckle Breakers Productions will be capturing and how you can be a part of it. https://fb.watch/8rr9wz8o4H/https://labeledpodcast.com/MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 5 October 2021

In 1995, The Get Up Kids began exploring their surroundings and expanding their horizons in much the way that early Tooth & Nail and Solid State artists did. In the midwest emo scene, they were sharing the stages with bands of seemingly all genres, while making friends in many other states. They didn’t ask permission for what they did, and no one stopped them from blazing new pathways that would connect the regional underground scenes together and really open up the all-ages movement.  Matt Pryor, TGUK frontman, currently hosts a Vagrant Records podcast series celebrating 25 years of Vagrant releases. This conversation with Matt gives us a great opportunity to look at the Christian piece of the all-ages scene through the eyes of a personality similar to many on this show, but also with an outsider’s perspective. Labeled Fest:  https://bit.ly/2UIHYbW Emo Night:  https://bit.ly/3BBNiym https://labeledpodcast.com/ MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH

Transcribed - Published: 21 September 2021

Mark Salomon is a legend and forefather of the Tooth & Nail scene. He was pioneering new artistic and cultural territory while being iconic, professional and a showman  all at the same time.  He has been massively influential from The Crucified and Stavesacre to Neon Horse and his podcast, Never Was, and his reputation for having solid personal relationships across decades with so many other legends. What a rock singer, a podcaster, and great relationships all have in common is the ability to connect & communicate ideas from your mind though your voice.  Everyone loves Mark's voice regardless of what he is doing. If it is his voice expressing his mind, it just works. Labeled Fest: bit.ly/2UIHYbW Emo night w/ Josh Head starting at 10:30 : bit.ly/3BBNiym Song List: Stavesacre - Keep Waiting Stavesacre - MCMXCV Hymn Roadside Monument - Iowa Backroads MXPX - Your Problem, My Emergency Ghoti Hook – Two Years To Never Neon Horse - Some Folks

Transcribed - Published: 7 September 2021

Welcome back to labeled, the stories rumors and legends of tooth and nail records, I’m your host Matt carter and today’s episode features the not only legendary but iconic drummer Steve Kleisath from Strong arm, Shai Halud, further seeems forever, and the darling fire.   He is a legend because he had tremendous  influence on records that were tremendously influential and his style inspired many.  He is iconic because he comes in a package that’s different than you might expect.  He  plays left handed on a reverse setup drum kit and plays quirky parts that seem to come from another dimension.  This on top of the fact that Steve has become an a expert at many things including poker and holding world record video game scores.  He clearly has a special mind that accesses information and makes decisions in a uniqe way that has had a big impact.  I’ve never spoken to Steve and was very happy to have the opportunity to explore his mind a bit and I think you will enjoy that too.  Strong-arm - council of perfection,  slick shoes - rusty,  stretch arm strong - all we’ve lost,  Velour 100 - Your Sky Labeled Fest https://bit.ly/2UIHYbW Emo Night https://bit.ly/3BBNiym

Transcribed - Published: 25 August 2021

Terminal can be described in many ways. One and Done, One Hit Wonder, Casualty of the industry, a career that seemed over before it began. Similar to Beloved in many ways, with a single album destined for an explosive followup the bands had seemingly failed before their future fanbase could materialize. The bands were able to achieve great things quickly, but weren’t equipped to handle being a touring band. Had they made it just a little further, big things were likely to happen. But instead the band stopped, the members grew up, grew as people, and learned how to be friends. A tragedy and celebration brought the band back and they've become an active again. So its very cool to be experiencing new beginning for Terminal. Travis Bryant is an exceptional vocalist and front man who brings real vulnerability to his music and to this conversation, I hope you will get as much from it as I did.     Promo Code: LABELED https://www.seetickets.us/event/Emeryland-presents-Labeled-Fest/437983   Emery: The Question Live Event http://bit.ly/3yGQtmO   Song List: Terminal - Wisher Embodyment - The Narrow Scope of Things Julianna Theory - Into the Dark Luti Kriss - The 'Anni Hilat' Ion Beloved - Failure on my Lips Underoath - When The Sun Sleeps (Live - 2003 - Pre-spencerpost-dallas) Terminal - How the Lonely keep the Lovely Terminal - Dark

Transcribed - Published: 11 August 2021

Hopesfall is a very influential post hardcore/spirit filled hardcore band. They emerged in the North Carolina scene and the greater Southeast with bands like Beloved, Stretch Armstrong, he is legend, Underoath and Luti-Kriss around 2000. they were a Furnacefest band and a Cornerstone band.   They were signed to Takehold Records who was acquired by Tooth and Nail in 2003 but due to some changes in the bands lineup and other factors, Hopesfall rejected the opportunity to be on Solidstate at that time and was allowed to instead sign to Trustkill records.    This conversation begins with me and Brandon Ebel talking about how he wanted Hopesfall, but it wasn't meant to be.     LABELED FEST: https://bit.ly/2WbN29h Use promo code: LABELED for 20% off   Music in this episode... Hopesfall- Waitress Hopesfall- Shines Through Helmet - live Reading Festival 1994 (remastered) Strong-arm - Supplication Roadside Monument - Sperm Ridden Burden Driver eight - Watermelon Hopesfall - The End of an Era Hopesfall - Andromeda Bloodshed - The Scarlett letter Hopesfall - East Of 1989; Battle Of The Bay Hopesfall- Hall of the Sky   https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon Join Labeled on Facebook   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 22 July 2021

Joe Musten is the heartbeat of Beloved. He is known for doing all the lead screaming while being an absolutely brutal drummer. I think of Joe as an uncompromising and incorruptible purist and someone who sees the whole picture. He is driven to authentically express his passion in every situation, from live performance, to the studio recordings, to fan interaction, to band member, friend or podcast guest.   SPONSOR: Grandpa Loves Rhinos Song- Gimmie Gimme  https://open.spotify.com/artist/0tUI0co94MZfQ539byIwyw?si=wxBnh0SgRmi31LlXaAt-7A&dl_branch=1   Music in this episode... Beloved- Aimless Endeavor Strongarm- Division Pantera- Suicide Note Pt. 1 Living Sacrifice- Reborn Empowered Strongarm Supplication Stretch Armstrong- Second Chances Beloved- Death To Traitors Advent- Wind From The Valley Advent- Revival     https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon Join Labeled on Facebook   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 29 June 2021

Chad Johnson is a significant figure in this movement who was identifying next level talent that was yet to reach its potential and creating opportunities for them. He was quite successful in aggregating and attracting further talent primarily in the southeast region. Further Seems Forever, Underoath, twothirtyeight, hopesfall, and more. He created Furnace Fest which became in addition to Cornerstone, a Mecca and pilgrimage to legendary experience. His record label, Takehold Records, was acquired by Tooth & Nail in the early 2000's where Chad was A&R for many of the largest bands on the label. He left Tooth & Nail to start Come and Live! in 2009 and now has revived Furnace Fest in 2021.   https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon Join Labeled on Facebook www.furnacefest.us SONGS YOU HEARD ON THIS EPISODE: twothirtyeight- Coin Laundry Loser Underoath - A Boy Brushed Red Live mewithoutyou- January 1979 Showbread- Mouth Like a Magazine Underoath- Never Meant to Break Your Heart   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 15 June 2021

One the first releases ever on Solid State, Stretch Armstrong were pioneers of the scene that was emerging in the southeast in the late 90’s. Known for being straight edge and positive, Chris McLaine was one of the most engaging front men of the era. His message was always to include and to encourage and to make a positive impact. From the beginning Chris truly understood the what a scene was and that its life-force was found at the community level.   https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon Join Labeled on Facebook   SONGS YOU HEARD ON THIS EPISODE: Stretch Arm Strong "For the Record" Green Day "When I Come Around" Stretch Arm Strong "When Sorrow Falls" Stretch Arm Strong "For Now" MXPX "My Life Story" Underoath "Reinventing Your Exit" Norma Jean "Memphis Will be Laid to Rest"   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 21 May 2021

Scott Mellinger joined the legendary band Zao to replace Brett Detar as a musician between the albums, When Blood and Fire Bring Rest and Liberate Te Ex Inferis. He immediately brought a new sonic element helping them arrive at their signature sound, but his influence didn't stop there. Despite being in a band with big personalities, Scott emerged as a leader and became the band's stabilizing point guard. Zao's streak of longevity was truly unexpected given their early years and the amount of environmental change that has occurred since the late ’90s, making them about as legendary as it gets in our world. Scott's a great thinker and I always feel it's a privilege to speak with him.   https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon  Join Labeled on Facebook   SONGS YOU HEARD ON THIS EPISODE: Further Seems Forever "Make It A Part" Starflyer 59 "All The Time" Pedro the Lion "Almost There" Zao "Savannah" Zao "Angel Without Wings" Zao "Five Year Winter" Jesse Smith & The Holy Ghost "The Mountain" Zao "Into the Jaws of Dread" Zao "Intro" Zao "Creator/Destroyer" Zao "The Crimson Corridor" Zao "Ship of Theseus" Zao "Croatoan"   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH    * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 27 March 2021

The Showdown is a very special band who was able to break a lot of new ground and turn a lot of heads by taking what was going on in heavy music and amplifying it to extreme levels by adding new layers of performance that mixed art and crowd interaction with humor to create a symphony of chaos that played the audience like an instrument. Their front man David Bunton is a legend in the scene when it comes to stage persona. The Showdown blended metal with classic rock, and were a big part of the dirty southern heavy scene along with He Is Legend and Maylene and the Sons of Disaster.   https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon  Join Labeled on Facebook   SONGS YOU HEARD ON THIS EPISODE: The Showdown "A Moment Encased in Ash (Live)" The Showdown "Vow of Silence" Slick Shoes "East on Tracks" twothirtyeight "That Sad And Holy Glow" Extol "Ember" The Showdown "Temptation Come My Way" The Showdown "Achilles - The Backbreaker" The Showdown "From The Mouth of Gath Comes Terror (Live)" The Showdown "Bring It Down" The Showdown "Iscariot (Live)"   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH    * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 22 February 2021

Lead singers tend to get and often deserve the most attention in most bands. They carry a large burden and the spotlight is not at all easy to manage, but some of the most talented and valuable people are not the ones in the limelight. Randy Torres has done it all in the Tooth & Nail world, and he has done it well.  Guitarist for Project 86, engineer for Aaron Sprinkle, A&R for the label, touring musician for Anberlin, composer, sound designer and more.  Coming from a supportive environment in SoCal at just the right time in the late 90's, Randy has been able to make a great career for himself and that career is marked mainly by how personable and likable and easy to work with he is. He has been a great inspiration of how to be for many people including me.     https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon  Join Labeled on Facebook   SONGS YOU HEARD ON THIS EPISODE: Project 86 "The Spy Hunter" Stavesacre "Threshold" The Blamed "Feeding the Ignorant" Living Sacrifice "Reject" Project 86 "Spill Me" Project 86 "One Armed Man (Play On)" Jonezetta "Get Ready (Hot Machete)" Anberlin "The Feel Good Drag" NYVES "Something Divine"   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH    * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 21 January 2021

Hangnail is an old school classic Tooth & Nail punk band and is back with new holiday music! It's their first new music in 17 years.  This seemed like a good occasion to hang out with the whole band and look all the way back to the mid 90's as this group of best friends in high school, who never had a lineup change and were first generation Tooth & Nail kids just trying to play cover songs until they got their first big opportunity at Cornerstone '98.   https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon  Join Labeled on Facebook   SONGS YOU HEARD ON THIS EPISODE: Hangnail "O Come All Ye Faithful" Plankeye "Goodbye" Slick Shoes "Fall" Stavesacre "Keep Waiting" Further Seems Forever "Pictures of Shorelines" Hangnail "Friendly Advice (Live 2002)" Hangnail "I'm Only Human" Hangnail "All That I Wanted" Hangnail "Survey of Self" Hangnail "One Small Child (feat Josh Kemble)"   MORE FROM TOOTH & NAIL: * Labeled: Music From The Podcast: smarturl.it/labeledplaylist * DISCOVER IT: New Tracks from T&N Records: smarturl.it/TNNDiscover * This Is Solid State: New Tracks from Solid State Records: https://spoti.fi/2CUCsaH    * Tooth & Nail Store (LABELED Patreon members get 20% off everything): tnn.lnk.to/store

Transcribed - Published: 22 December 2020

Acceptance is a Tooth & Nail artist a couple of decades in the making.  They just made and released their first album on Tooth & Nail called Wild, Free this year. But it was right here in the Seattle Tacoma area where Acceptance was founded in 2003, right at the time that

Transcribed - Published: 10 November 2020

Frodus was a pioneer post hardcore band whose influence is larger than their footprint ever was. This important group was recognized early by Brandon and Tooth & Nail, who acquired  Frodus, a non-Christian from the 90’s DC punk scene that transitioned into the Tooth

Transcribed - Published: 11 June 2020

Chapter 29   We have reached the final chapter of our series! We’ve seen both Tooth & Nail and the scene grow from being independent, in basements and obscurity, and grow until they were partnered with a giant corporation and had artists all over MTV and mainstream radio. Today we see how Tooth & Nail came full circle from all the mayhem and tied hands that came along with that, to once again become a true indie label.   https://labeledpodcast.com/ Support Labeled on Patreon  Join Labeled on Facebook   SONGS YOU HEARD ON THIS EPISODE: MxPx "Chick Magnet" Starflyer 59 “Fell In Love at 22” Underoath “A Boy Brushed Red Living in Black and White” Jonezetta “Get Ready (Hot Machete)” mewithoutYou “Messes of Men” Silent Planet “Trilogy” Blenderhead "Escape Reason" MxPx “Secret</span

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2020

Chapter 27   Former Tooth & Nail employee, Derek Tenbusch, in many ways is a similar to Brandon Ebel.  Both got their start as low level employees of a record label in southern California, because of their love for music, and thought it would be satisfying to help good art thrive. Eventually both became di

Transcribed - Published: 26 February 2020