Welcome back to Label, the stories, rumors, and legends of tooth and nail records.

I'm your host, Matt Carter, and today is a special episode because it's a celebration of one of the most pivotal albums in tooth and nail history.

The Moon is Down as a total game changer.

Of course, it's a fan favorite, but this one also checks the box in a big way as a named influence by artists, drummers, guitarists, song arrangers, and vocalists.

They all cite this album constantly for helping them expand their minds to new possibilities and for causing them to have creative breakthroughs, and that's what it's all about.

So it's a really cool feeling to be able to reflect on an achievement this big for our scene and something reaching its 20 year anniversary and for it to hold up so well and have the ability to talk to these guys is very, very cool. So I hope you enjoy this episode. Also, if you haven't yet subscribed to the new labeled feed, which is labeled deep dives,

please do that this time. Look up deep dives. Go to labeled universe.com. There's a series that we're

doing on Underwoods Boyerist. It's a very deep exploration of how they work and how their

minds work and how they collaborate and what it means to self-produce

and covers a lot of the history of the band.

And it gets pretty intimate with them

and their relationships and stuff like that.

Episode 2 is out right now

and it covers the legendary Aaron Gillespie

and how he thinks about creating music

and how it all works in his head.

And it's a really cool one.

So check that out

labeled deep dives. So please subscribe to that feed as well. Okay, here's me and Chad and Steve and Nick.

Let's start by just thinking about where further seems forever comes from and I know people know that

there's a strong arm was the foundation for it and all three of you guys were in strong arm correct

yeah yes okay so let's just let me just start by trying to get you guys thoughts on

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