Welcome back to the label, the stories, rumors and legends of tooth-and-neil records.

I'm your host, Matt Carter.

Okay, everybody, take a deep breath because we have reached the conclusion of this

particular series. Today we'll complete the story that we started with Brandon Ebel and Billy Power

and all those guys. And that was back in November of 2018 when we started this whole thing.

The tooth and nail scene began with house shows and

community centers and businesses being started by ambitious kids. And then it intersected

with the Jesus movement and cornerstone. And then it merged with the larger Indian punk scene.

Then it not only went mainstream, but partnered with a giant global corporation, sold

tens of millions of records, including multiple gold records, and held positions as high as

number two on the Billboard charts, with artists all over MTV and mainstream radio.

And it turns out there really was a peak to all this, and of course, nothing stays the same, but the story did not end.

Like everything in life, there's seasons of growth and seasons of change.

And the two are not always correlated.

Sometimes the most important and necessary changes happen in the absence of growth.

And in fact, when things go wrong.

Sometimes difficult situations outside of our control force us to do hard things that are long

overdue but necessary nonetheless. And this is where real stories and new stories are born.

Almost every good story has a point when it could have just all ended and the story

would have never been told. But to go through hard times and live to tell about them often

produces the most valuable information to pass along. And I know that this happens to be that moment

that a lot of us around the world find ourselves in right now, facing what seem to be impossible

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