Welcome back to Label, the stories, rumors, and legends of tooth and nail records.

I'm your host Matt Carter.

And today we have a really interesting, slightly different type of episode with Lee Humerian,

who was the drummer for Phineas for nearly a decade.

He's a very classic stereotype of a tooth and nail kid who followed his passion for music and energy and mission for God.

And Lee was drawn from music into missions full time, landing him in the Ukraine in 2014,

where he and his family made a home and a life there during all the escalating conflict over the last few years.

And I felt like it was a great opportunity to have this conversation and get the perspective

of someone from our world on another world that seems so foreign and unimaginable to me.

And this conversation is both fascinating and powerful and heartbreaking.

And I'm glad to introduce you to a special person like Lee.

And I hope you get as much from the episode as I did.

And I'm already, I'm already rolling here and so it's already good to go. But do you have

any familiarity with the podcast? Did you hear the Finneas episode? I did. So yeah, I, um,

yeah, once, once Adam connected with me, I downloaded that one. I had actually started listening to it back when it first came out. And I, I think I started watching on YouTube or something. It's on YouTube, right? Or is that it? I remember, I just remember Sean, like, posted a link and I started listening to it.

And then I, I, I listened to the whole thing once after like Sean, after after Adam hit me up.

And so that was awesome.

It's awesome just here.

I don't know.

Like, Sean's so funny.

I feel like you guys sped up his voice though because, because he, he, he was talking so fast.

Yeah, I speed people's voice up.

...