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Welcome back to Label, the stories, rumors, and legends of tooth and nail records.

I'm your host Matt Carter.

Our focus today is on a character named Derek Tenbush, and in many ways, he's a similar

character to Brandon Ebel.

Derek, too, got his start as a low-level employee of a record label in Southern California,

and just like Brandon, he was there because he loved music,

and he thought it'd be satisfying to help good art thrive.

Now, he eventually became dissatisfied with the limited scope of those around him, and he sought to do more.

Only Derek, unlike Brandon, didn't come from the indie punk Christian scene.

Derek worked for the corporate giant EMI that controlled tooth and nail and with whom Brandon was having conflict.

So maybe it was fate that brought Derek to work directly for tooth and nail and with whom Brandon was having conflict. So maybe it was fate that brought Derek to work directly for tooth and nail and to push millions of records into the mainstream outlets for the first time,

or maybe is the mutual attraction of like-minded people who like to work hard for big results

by collaborating with a small and

focused creative team of people who all believe in something far more important than just a paycheck

or the status that comes with a title. This is the same thing that motivates musicians, fans,

and people like the interns who work so hard at places like record

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