Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob reveals a series of four affidavits from witnesses, who were never contacted by the original investigators. All four have direct knowledge about the crimes and who committed them. None of the four are connected to Chris Bynum and none of the four are connected to each other. Reminder, we will be off for the Thanksgiving holiday this week. We will return with the Follow-Up to this episode on Friday, December 5th. That episode will be recorded live on YouTube on Monday December 1st at 8pm EST. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Published: 23 November 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet talk about the DNA found on Sheila Bartee and Elizabeth Daily-Ayers and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live

Transcribed - Published: 21 November 2025

This episode is all about the forensic evidence that was concealed from the jury and ignored by the prosecution in Chris Bynum's case. Post-conviction investigators uncovered evidence and connections that have opened doors to new leads. Why also learn why some of this evidence may have been ignored by the original investigators. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Published: 16 November 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss and Graddick's closing argument and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 14 November 2025

This week we wrap up Chris' trial. We hear a breakdown of the Defense's witnesses, and Graddick's closing argument. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 9 November 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the prosecutor's closing arguments against Chris and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 7 November 2025

The State presented very little evidence against Chris Bynum during the case in chief part of the trial. Ultimately his fate was sealed by the Prosecutor's closing argument, where she weaved together a narrative to convince the jury of his guilt. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 2 November 2025

Bob and Zaq talk about the states witness' testimonies and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 30 October 2025

Bob breaks down the glaring gaps in the State's case in chief from trial, and shares the remaining testimonies that we haven't heard yet. We also hear Michelle Fliris' full police interview, and discuss how it could have led to a quick resolution to the original investigation. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 26 October 2025

Bob and Zaq discuss Louis Donald's testimony and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 24 October 2025

Inside the John Wayne Gacy Investigation is a true-crime podcast featuring never-before-heard recordings of John Wayne Gacy and new admissions from the detectives who investigated him. Hosted by criminal defense attorney Bob Motta, whose father defended Gacy at trial, the series re-examines the investigation that brought a serial killer to justice. Through exclusive interviews, thousands of pages of police files, and newly remastered audio, BURIED exposes what’s been hidden for over 40 years and reveals the shocking truth behind one of America’s most infamous cases.

Transcribed - Published: 22 October 2025

After hearing Chris' version of the events that led up to him signing a confession, this week we hear Detective Louis Donald's side of the story through his trial testimony. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 19 October 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Chris' statements and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 10 October 2025

This episode fills in the gaps between Chris' first statement, Shakey's statement and Chris' second statement. We hear about Shenita's police interview, the trip to look for the gun, Tyrelle's arrest, and more. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 5 October 2025

Bob and Zaq discuss Chris' first statement and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 3 October 2025

In this episode we pick up where we left off last week. After Chris Bynum signed his first statement, he was booked into the jail. The next day "Shakey" gave a statement of his own. What happened next, led the Chris being sent to prison for the rest of his life for a crime he didn't commit. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 28 September 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet talk over Chris' first statement to police and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 26 September 2025

Bob shares the full transcript of Chris Bynum's first police statement, given on February 18th. We also hear about what transpired after he signed that statement, and hear from another suspect placed all blame in the case onto Bynum. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 21 September 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Bob's interview with Dr. Nicky Jackson and answer listener questions.   The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 19 September 2025

Bob is joined by Dr. Nicky Jackson, the Executive Director of the Center for Justice and Exoneration Network. Dr. Jackson originally brought this case to us and this interview she explains her connection to the case, the work her Center has done on it and explains how Bynum ended up in the interrogation room the day after the murders.

Transcribed - Published: 14 September 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Larry's contrasting statements and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live

Transcribed - Published: 12 September 2025

Larry Brooks was 12 years old and in the 5th grade when his mother, aunt and mother's boyfriend were murdered in the living room of his home. He's an often overlooked victim in this case. He was courageous enough to come out of his room after the attack, and call 911. He told the first responding officers what he had seen and heard, but rather than conducting an actual thorough investigation, the detectives on the case used Larry as a pawn in their attempt to fabricate a case against Chris Bynum. In this episode we hear Larry's own words, as he described in a deposition where his trial testimony actually came from. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 7 September 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Henry Hatch's testimony as well as if the two crime scenes are connected and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 5 September 2025

Bob breaks down Firearms Examiner Henry Hatch's testimony, as well as another witness to determine if the two crime scenes are connected. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 31 August 2025

Bob and Janet discuss Bob's interview with the daughter of Elizabeth Daily-Ayers and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 29 August 2025

Bob is joined by the daughter of Liz Ayers. Tasha helps us to understand who her mother was. She was so much more than just a victim of a horrific crime. Liz was a mother and a grandmother, and her tragic death has had a lasting effect on the people who loved her. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 24 August 2025

Bob and Zaq discuss the autopsy reports for Anthony, Suzanne, and Angela and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 22 August 2025

Bob breaks down the autopsies of Anthony Jeffers, Angela Wallace and Suzanne Wallace. We learn how many shots were fired, bullet trajectories, caliber used and the real meaning of the toxicology reports. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 17 August 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the autopsy of Sheila Bartee and Elizabeth Daily Ayers and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 15 August 2025

In an attempt to gain a better understanding of the crime scenes, Bob analyzes the autopsy reports for both Liz Ayers and Sheila Bartee. We learn about body positions, wound tracks, tox screens and more. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 10 August 2025

Bob and Janet have a chat about the final two episodes of the Undisclosed coverage of Adnan's case, and share all the details about the recent DNA testing ruling in the WM3 case. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 8 August 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the double homicide on the baseball field and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 1 August 2025

Bob takes a close look at the second crime scene in this case, located at the ball field at 14th and Idaho St. We cover the testimonies of the man who discovered the scene, the first arriving Officer, the Crime Scene Investigator and the Medical Examiner. The episode concludes with Bob putting it all together to develop an initial hypothesis on the scene. Nearly all of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 27 July 2025

Bob and Zaq talk about the first of two crime scenes involved in a quintuple homicide and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 25 July 2025

Bob breaks down the details of the crime scene on 10th Ave, where Angela Wallace, Suzanne Wallace and Anthony Jeffers were killed. We analyze the scene based on the testimonies of the initial arriving Officers, the Crime Scene investigator and the Medical Examiner. This episode also reveals the first major crack in the State's case against Chris Bynum. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 20 July 2025

Bob and Janet discuss the first episode of the newest season about a quintuple homicide in Gary, Indiana and answer listener questions.  Today’s Sponsors: ROYO - Go to EATROYO.com and use code TRUTH for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 18 July 2025

On February 17, 2000 tragedy struck Gary, Indiana. While the city of Gary is known to be a violent place, the events of this night were particularly awful. Five people were murdered across two different crime scenes, within hours of each other. The Detectives on the case quickly determined that the murders were all connected, and arrested a man named Chris Bynum for the crimes within hours, before any meaningful investigation or any forensic testing could be completed. Chris has now been in prison for these murders for 25 years, even though all evidence revealed since his trial indicates that he is most certainly innocent. In this season premiere episode, we'll be taking a broad look at the events of that fateful night, and begin our journey to bring real justice to Sheila Renee Bartee, Elizabeth Ayers, Anthony "Amp" Jeffers, Angela Renee Wallace and Suzanne Wallace. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 13 July 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Amanda Knox, an update in the newest episode of Undisclosed, and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 11 July 2025

Bob is joined by Exoneree and Author, Amanda Knox.  Amanda talks about her experience of being coerced into signing a false confession in Italy in 2007, and how she used that experience to help shape her 6 part mini-series on false confessions on her podcast “Labyrinths.”  Bob also chats with her about her new book, “Free:  My Search for Meaning.”  Lastly, we learn that Amanda is producing a new scripted series on Hulu.  The series is titled “The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox” premiering on Hulu on August 20th. Find Amanda’s new book here:  Free:  My Search for Meaning Also available as an audiobook on Audible, with Amanda doing the reading. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 6 July 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the unethical process for a series coming out soon about Ed Ates' case. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 4 July 2025

Bob is joined by Ed Ates and IPTX Attorney Allison Clayton to share details of the unethical production process for a series coming out soon about Ed's case. Today’s Sponsors: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 29 June 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss an update in the WM3 case, answer listener questions about Sandy and Jesse's case, and talk about the Undisclosed episode and the new theory in Adnan's case about Alonzo Sellers. Today’s Sponsors: ROYO - go to eatroyo.com and use promo code TRUTH for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 27 June 2025

Bob is joined by a team of lawyers from the Innocence Project of Texas. Mike Ware, Allison Clayton, Kaitlin Gilbert, and Danica Obregon take time out of their day of celebration as Mike is being inducted into the Texas Criminal Defense Attorney Hall of Fame to share some amazing updates about Sandy Melgar's case, Jesse Eldridge's case, and a great story about another huge win the IPTX and the wrongfully convicted.  Please consider donating to IPTX to help fund their amazing work at innocencetexas.org/donate Today’s Sponsors: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 22 June 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Bobs student's finding on the Janette Roberson case, their process, and a new development in Adnan's case.  Today’s Sponsors: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth Mint Mobile – Go to MintMobile.com/truthandjustice to get three months of premium wireless for just $15 per month. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 20 June 2025

If you haven't listened to episode 25, go back and listen to that first!  This is the season finale for the Underestimated - Janette Roberson podcast.  Check out Underestimated to hear the full story, and to listen to all the other cases! FBI Profiler Jim Clemente returns to the class to evaluate the profile that the students developed.  He shares his insights and provides a few minor adjustments that send shivers down the spines of the group.  At the end of the episode the profile is compared to all known suspects, and one and only one emerges as the students' most likely person of interest.

Transcribed - Published: 15 June 2025

This is a special preview of the Underestimated podcast.  Bob's students worked on a series of 6 different cases throughout the school year.  This is the second to last episode in the Janette Roberson series.  The final episode will air here, later today.  This is a great example of the incredible work that the students did this year.  Subscribe to Underestimated for the full story, and to hear about the other 5 cases! In this episode, the students apply the teachings of renowned FBI Profiler Jim Clemente to Janette's case.  They analyze Janette's victimology and the crime scene behaviors.  All of this information is used to develop a profile that suggests the original investigators were looking in the wrong direction from the very beginning.

Transcribed - Published: 15 June 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss and criticize Casey Anthony's interrogation and answer listener questions. Today’s Sponsors: Naked Wines – To get Naked Wine’s 6 bottle for $39.99 offer, head to NakedWines.com/Truth and use code TRUTH for both the code AND password.   The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 6 June 2025

This week Bob stated the second recorded police interrogation of Casey Anthony. This one is complicated because Anthony was acquitted for the murder of her daughter Caylee. However in later interviews Casey revealed that she at the very least knew a lot more about her daughter's death than she lets on in this interview. You're going to hear the same steps of the Reid Technique applied to Anthony with very different responses than what we heart from Richard Allen or Chris Watts.  Today’s Sponsors: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 1 June 2025

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Bob's interview with false confession expert Alan Hirsh, the Reid Technique and ethics of police lying in interrogations, and answer listener questions.  The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 30 May 2025

Bob is joined by false confession expert, Alan Hirsh. Professor Hirsh has over 20 years of experience studying and testifying about the science of interrogation tactics and false confessions. You can hear more of Alan's work on his podcast "The Truth About False Confessions". Beam – Go to ShopBeam.com/truth and use code “TRUTH” for 40% off. 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Transcribed - Published: 25 May 2025