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| 0:48.6 | I'm Bob Rock. Ahoy, friends. Thank you for tuning into truth and justice. You are listening to the Friday follow up for season 17, episode 11. This week we got to hear Chris Bidem's first police statement. We also heard a police statement from DeAndre McIntosh, better known as shaky. This episode has raised a lot of listener questions, and I have some of my own. Today I'm joined by Bob and Janet, and the three of us are going to do our best to get through all of your listener questions. But before we go into that, do we have any housekeeping? I don't think we have anything pressing for housekeeping going on this week. We're just, I'll keep you guys updated as soon as we know anything new, but there's always, you know, there's things moving in all of our cases kind of right now that we're waiting for that. Janet, you look like you had something on the tip of your tongue. Well, it's not something we have to talk about now, but I did want to acknowledge that the part five of the case against Anansayet did come out on HBO. So if some people might have watched it, but again, I don't need to, we don't need to, we're on to a brand |
| 2:01.2 | new case, but. I haven't had a chance to watch it. Have you watched it yet? Yes, I did. It was mostly, I mean, from my memory, it was mostly stuff that if you've been following the case closely, you already knew. You already knew about it. But it was really good to see, you know, that was good to like some of the people and yeah. |
| 2:19.2 | I heard the kind of what I saw online people posting about it. There was a lot of conversation about, almost I loved seeing like Adnan himself being found free with his dad and stuff like that. Yeah. I'm excited to watch it. I just haven't had a minute. Oh my God. He's so funny and cute with his dad. He's like, this is so surreal. My dad's wearing a Freddie Kruger sweater. It's very sweet. And, you know, you get attached to people. Like, I really love Adnan's mom. I think of her as my auntie Shabim, and I've never met her so she's just very sweet it was it was nice |
| 2:52.1 | that's great well I can't I can't wait to watch it too it's been it's been bookmarked for me I haven't |
| 2:56.6 | I haven't watched anything else on TV since then either yeah that's the next thing is on my list |
| 3:01.5 | cool with that being said so it's been a long time coming in this in this season to get to |
| 3:07.1 | Chris's confession so you guys |
| 3:09.3 | finally got to hear it like you know i read it to you guys word for word and you got to hear what |
| 3:14.4 | happened next what were you guys as initial takeaways before we get into questions so for me it |
| 3:20.0 | reminded me a lot of the jennifer jeffley case where there's a lot of moving parts. There's a lot going on. And I feel like somebody knows something so much more than what's being given. Now, that doesn't mean it's true. But just all these statements, you know, in Chris's statement, they talk about the three individuals that are named in our, we don't know if they're |
| 3:43.0 | brought in. We don't know anything, right? But these are the three individuals that are named. And then |
| 3:46.6 | later we find out that one of these individuals was brought in and he names the same three individuals. |
| 3:51.4 | You know, it's, it's weird that they have this almost the same story, even though they're pointing |
| 3:56.0 | fingers at each other. So I feel like there's so much more there that we just aren't privy to yet. Right. Well, I don't think shaky mentioned Terrell. I don't think Terrell was part of of shaky statement, unless I'm completely misremembering that. And maybe I misremembered it, but for some reason I thought he was included later. No, I think his they, they had the argument at the bar. He said, Chris pulled a gun on him. Then they went to Amp's house. Doesn't really say, I think, why they went to Amp's house. Him, Amp and Chris had an argument, and then Chris drops him off, and then that's it. That's the last he saw of him. Okay. |
| 4:50.2 | I don't know. There's still something there to me that just seems so strange. And, you know, I'm just a listener. I'm not privy to everything. It's just what I'm hearing. But it just reminded me a lot of that, of that idea that like, there's too many stories that kind of coincide. Right. And we still don't know who's what the story is yet. |
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