S17 Ep19: Shakey
Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff
Bob Ruff
4.5 • 7.8K Ratings
🗓️ 23 November 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Reminder, we will be off for the Thanksgiving holiday this week. We will return with the Follow-Up to this episode on Friday, December 5th. That episode will be recorded live on YouTube on Monday December 1st at 8pm EST.
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| 0:00.0 | From NBII Studios, this is Truth and Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time. I'm Bob Ruff. We've spent the first 18 episodes of this season examining the conviction of Chris Bynum. |
| 0:43.8 | That's the first step in any of our investigations, to determine if the state actually got it right the first time. |
| 0:51.3 | In this case, there's no doubt in my mind that they did not. Without question, |
| 0:56.6 | Chris Beinem is innocent. So that moves us on to the next phase of our investigation. |
| 1:07.8 | If not Chris, then who? |
| 1:14.2 | Who committed this horrific series of murders that night? |
| 1:18.5 | Last week, the forensic analysis revealed two strong leads. |
| 1:24.0 | Joseph Tidwell's DNA was discovered in the oral swab from Liz Eyre's sexual assault kit and DNA discovered in the vaginal swab from Sheila Bartiz kit came back as a match to a |
| 1:30.1 | murder scene in Lake Station in Indiana 10 years after her murder. Leon Frevel was convicted of that |
| 1:36.0 | murder, although all signs seem to indicate that the DNA profile that's connected to our case |
| 1:41.8 | isn't his. Still, it's another lead. Two names. Two living and |
| 1:49.8 | breathing human beings. The son of a retired Gary police officer Joseph Tidwell and convicted murderer, |
| 1:57.8 | Leon Frel. But that's just the beginning this week |
| 2:02.4 | before we take our Thanksgiving break |
| 2:04.3 | we're going to circle back to a familiar |
| 2:06.3 | name one that's been connected |
| 2:08.6 | to this case from the very beginning |
| 2:10.7 | D'Andrich |
| 2:12.5 | McIntosh |
| 2:13.7 | or as everyone knows him |
| 2:15.6 | shaky |
| 2:16.9 | Shaky. |
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