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Older & Wilder

Older & Wilder

GGW Media

Health & Fitness, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.8619 Ratings

Overview

Funny, honest, easy to listen to - we are often described as, "like listening to your best friends have a conversation at dinner." This is Joy and Claire is an evolution of the weekly podcast Girls Gone WOD, which we created back in June 2013. Since then we have released over 400 weekly episodes and bonus features, and created an amazing community of supportive listeners around the world. We are so excited to bring years of podcasting experience to this new project, with honesty, humor, and insights on everything from mental health, wellness, marriage, and parenting, to all the other random things that you’d talk to your friends about. Subscribe now and join the conversation! www.joyandclaire.com

337 Episodes

Jellycats, Community Cliques, and Redefining Normality

Memorial Day Plans, Jellycat Shopping, and the GLP-1 Cultural DebateJoy and Claire catch up over Memorial Day weekend, sharing family activities in Moab, recurring McDonald’s order mishaps, an e-bike picnic, paddleboarding plans, and a quick Arizona trip for a friend’s daughter’s high school graduation. They discuss the cliquey dynamics of making friends in a Utah town with a strong LDS subculture plus humorous travel stories including a seatmate chewing tobacco on a plane. A highlight is Scott’s Chicago shopping spree at a Jellycat store, buying a sold-out grumpy turtle for Miles. They then address Instagram responses about GLP-1 medications, emphasizing benefits for metabolic health while criticizing cultural trends toward extreme weight loss, unsafe normalization, marketing, and stigma. They end with favorite products: Theraface red-light mask, ILIA makeup, and the Intake nose opener.00:00 Memorial Day Catchup00:34 Makeup At 7 AM01:05 McDonalds Order Chaos03:02 Park Picnic And Paddleboard03:40 Arizona Graduation Trip05:46 Hibachi And Choir Memories08:29 Mormon Town Culture Shock10:52 Making Friends In Moab14:02 Jellycat Store Adventure20:59 Library Pets And Dog Tales23:21 Brandon Phone Jump Scares24:19 Gross Plane Seatmate Story25:47 Travel Brings Out Weirdness28:26 Short Person Overhead Bag Hack29:21 GLP-1 Nuance Not Judgment33:51 Culture Shift Toward Waif Era38:27 Health First Not Weight Loss40:17 Marketing Profits and Safety Concerns44:27 Vitamins Malnutrition and Hair Loss45:57 Favorite Products and Wrap Up

Transcribed - Published: 28 May 2026

Lenet Rivas on Building Wealth

Blue Otter Financial Planning: Joy and Claire welcome back Lenet Rivas to discuss her new business, Blue Otter Financial Planning, launched after a layoff and inspired by conversations at a Surf with Amigas retreat. Lenet shares her background in financial aid at Emory, then Fidelity and investment management, and explains leaving product- and target-driven models to offer flat-fee planning for people—especially women—who don’t meet typical $500K asset minimums. They discuss consolidating scattered old employer 401(k)s into an IRA, aligning investments with risk tolerance and time horizon, and how target-date funds often default people into mismatched allocations; Joy describes gaining confidence, discovering a pension, and improving results after adjusting investments. The episode also covers money shame, patriarchy in finance, spending vs. saving mindset, and practical questions to ask parents about estate plans, accounts, and wills.00:00 Meet Lenet and Blue Otter01:19 From Taxes to Entrepreneurship04:15 The Retreat Seed and Layoff Leap06:51 Traveling While Building the Plan09:40 Who Blue Otter Serves13:33 Joy’s Account Consolidation Win15:28 Money Fear and the KFC Analogy22:01 Fixing Default 401k Investments27:05 Target Date Funds vs ETFs28:22 Confidence to Manage Your 401k29:13 Fix Your 401k Mix29:42 Shame And Money Talk31:28 Beating The Patriarchy33:20 From Saving To Spending36:16 Facing The Real Numbers40:37 Family Money Planning42:26 Questions For Parents47:39 How To Work Together49:50 Why Blue Otter52:18 Coffee Cart Dreams53:58 Where To Find Lenet54:22 Final Wrap And Goodbye

Transcribed - Published: 21 May 2026

Turn In & Travel Plans

Mother’s Day on the Green River, Moab Race Meetup, and Puppy Turn-In UpdatesJoy and Claire chat about early wake-ups, airline announcements, and pilot “too much detail” stories. They share Mother’s Day plans to float the Green River “Daily” near Moab and discuss refining their rafting boat packing system. From their Peru group chat, they float the idea of an unofficial Moab meet-up around a trail race weekend (15K, half, marathon, 50K) and advise booking hotels over pricey Airbnbs, noting the April 24, 2027 date. They discuss nostalgia for No Doubt, a gory dark-comedy film “Send Help” starring Rachel McAdams and directed by Sam Raimi, and Joy finishing the climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard.” Joy previews Lilas' upcoming CCI puppy turn-in, talks puppy-raising realities and grief, answers Q&A on Mind Pump, finding a workplace mentor, and dog toy recommendations for strong chewers.00:00 Podcast Welcome00:47 Pilot Oversharing Stories03:04 Listening In Flight03:49 Flight Tracking Anxiety05:01 Pentagon Twin Day06:16 Mothers Day Float Plan08:30 Rafting Gear Systems10:14 Moab Race Meetup Idea13:09 Where To Stay In Moab15:19 No Doubt Nostalgia17:24 Send Help Movie Review19:40 Dark Wizard Doc Update21:21 Climbing Doc Obsession23:18 Leila Turn In Emotions26:30 Service Dog Reality Check28:20 Haynes Toy Chase Antics30:46 Puppy Raising Community32:17 Mind Pump Bros Take34:55 Finding Work Mentors39:12 Toys For Strong Chewers44:17 Moab Meetup And Wrap

Transcribed - Published: 14 May 2026

What We're Watching & Reading

Social Media Breaks, Peru Reset, and What We’re Watching & ReadingClaire and Joy open with Arrested Development jokes and then discuss how meme culture and news consumption feel bleak, leading Joy to describe a mental-health-improving Peru “hard reset” of staying off social media, avoiding push notifications, and getting news from traditional outlets instead. They reflect on feeling helpless about Supreme Court decisions and on social media outrage/cancel culture, citing “Therapy Jeff” and mentioning Mel Robbins. Claire shares family updates, including Evie’s Beauty and the Beast dance recital and Miles’ extra energy now that he’s between sports, plus a chat about slow unpacking and liking Away luggage. They recommend HBO’s climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard” about Dean Potter, discuss Lena Dunham’s memoir and Girls, and Claire lists recent fiction reads while panning The Comfort Crisis, before plugging their Instagram, TikTok, and email.00:00 Welcome and Hop Ons00:22 Arrested Development Quotes01:39 Meme Days Check In02:21 Social Media Detox03:54 Supreme Court Spiral06:47 Peru Airplane Mode08:16 Therapy Influencer Drama11:28 Dance Recital Chaos15:28 Post Trip Unpacking17:44 Away Luggage and Points19:37 Dark Wizard Docuseries22:20 Climbing Subculture World23:51 Climbing Brotherhood24:20 Rivalry and Territorialism25:24 Dean vs Alex Debate26:02 El Cap Ethics27:30 Watching Free Solo29:11 Series Recommendation29:32 Lena Dunham Memoir33:15 Girls Fame Fallout37:25 Fiction Book Picks39:20 Comfort Crisis Rant42:37 More Reads and Wrap43:15 Social Media Goodbye

Transcribed - Published: 7 May 2026

Post-Peru Reflections

Peru Post-Trip Blues, Surf Retreat Highlights, and Planning Japan 2028Joy and Claire recap travel and post-trip depression after Peru, including Claire extending her trip for a Peru surf retreat in Chiama with Surf with Amigas, riding unusually long left waves, visiting archaeological sites, and seeing the preserved “Lady of Cao.” They describe a stressful Cusco-to-Lima flight delay due to the plane being too heavy, resulting in many bags left behind, and praise guide Leo for getting everyone’s luggage recovered before flights home. They discuss planning a Go Ahead Tours Japan trip for May 2028, outline the “Japan for Women” itinerary, and how they’ll share signup info. Back home, Joy starts a new job at Headspace as director of therapy, Scott also gets promoted, and they plan to puppy-raise again by taking over a six-month-old yellow lab named McCoy after turning in Lilas.03:15 Not Saving Memories03:47 Trip Photos Exception04:42 Peru Travel Day06:37 Surf Retreat Highlights07:31 Peru History Shock08:21 Pisco Sour Hangover11:24 Lost Luggage Drama15:33 Post Trip Blues18:05 Japan 2028 Tease20:50 Back to Work Updates22:13 Puppy Raising Again23:46 Meet McCoy24:25 Collar Scholars Week26:10 Dogs Want Dinner26:41 Summer Schedule Chaos28:36 Trips And Concerts29:21 Dean Potter Doc33:58 Van Life Reality Check36:15 Gym Pricing Rant40:22 Garage Gym Plans41:35 Wrap Up And Plugs

Transcribed - Published: 30 April 2026

Live From Peru!

Older and Wilder Live in Peru: Sacred Valley Reflections, Machu Picchu Magic, and Leo’s Tour-Guide LegendsJoy and Claire record a live “Older and Wilder” episode reflecting on how group travel with EF Go Ahead Tours removes the stress of planning and creates immersive cultural experiences. Travelers share motivations (community, FOMO, bucket-list Machu Picchu) and favorite moments: Machu Picchu, Incan archaeological sites, a community lunch and ceremony, women’s weaving cooperative, cooking class, churros in Lima, cathedral art, bus rides on narrow roads, and an ’80s dance party/karaoke on the train. Guide Leo explains his path to tour directing, love of sharing Peru, and encourages visitors to explore beyond Machu Picchu, including food, Arequipa, Nasca lines, and the Amazon.00:00 Live From Peru01:04 Sacred Valley Vibes02:25 Unplugging From News04:34 Why Peru Happened05:30 No Planning Needed06:54 Trip Community Magic09:13 Passing The Mic10:42 Traveler Stories Begin12:52 Train Karaoke Memories19:12 Big Picture Takeaways22:02 Churros And Bus Skills25:18 Cooking Class Chaos26:40 Machu Picchu Highlights27:27 Weaving Cooperative Magic28:36 FOMO And Friendship30:06 Why Group Trips Matter31:30 Cusco Culture Layers32:42 Unrepeatable Travel Moments34:57 Dogs Dances And Daily Life37:05 Cat Shoutouts And Cathedrals38:44 Pride And Shared Culture42:44 Thanking Leo The Guide46:12 Leo Origin Story51:58 Leo Moments And Next Trips55:48 Japan Plans And Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 23 April 2026

Off the Grid

Easter Morning, River-Trip Hypothermia, and Peru Prep! Joy and Claire trade stories about kids and childhood Easter traditions like egg hunts, church, and family meals. Claire recounts a spring-break rafting trip on Utah’s Upper San Juan River including visiting cliff-dwelling sites, a layover day, and a sudden thunderstorm. They discuss upcoming travel to Peru, interest in a future Japan trip, Joy’s promotion, and tips for altitude prep. 02:35 Kids Lovies and Stuffy Names03:24 Childhood Easter Traditions04:26 Easter Outfits and Memories06:42 Holiday Meals and Spring Vibes07:50 Weird Headlines and Politics09:01 Rockies Day and Dairy Queen Secret10:23 Party Adults and Breaking Rules13:46 Upper San Juan River Trip Setup15:29 Storm Rapid and Hypothermia Scare21:28 Off the Grid and Camp Food22:23 Camp Meals Done Right23:06 Savory Smores Hack23:57 Kids Camp Freedom25:11 Walkie Talkie Pro Tip25:55 Buying A Raft Rig29:43 Rigging Ammo Can Chaos31:43 Leaky Boat And Kayak Story33:07 Peru Trip Schedule33:55 JT Ashes And Goodbyes35:07 Summer Travel Sprint37:58 Raft Guide Reunion39:46 Altitude Sickness Prep41:23 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us

Transcribed - Published: 9 April 2026

Past & Present Adventures

House-Sitting in Arizona, Tracking Teens, and Planning a Japan TripJoy and Claire chat about pet and house-sitting. Joy describes a nostalgic “time warp” weekend with her friend’s nearly-18-year-old daughter, running into a high school friend’s younger sister, and hanging at the mall. They discuss modern teen tracking tools (Life360, car cameras) and balancing safety with independence, plus kids’ self-navigation skills. In Q&A, they cover folding fitted sheets, cleaning quirks, favorite clothing items, sweet vs savory brunch, and announce a Japan group trip for May 2027. Joy also shares updated thyroid/antibody management, sleep needs, views on workout programs, and recurring podcast lore like “he vapes now.”01:45 Moab Sitter Plug04:30 Girls Weekend Time Warp08:05 Mall Nostalgia09:32 Tracking Kids Debate13:16 Freedom Versus Safety17:11 Bus Schedules Growing Up17:57 Q and A Kickoff18:08 Fitted Sheet Fails20:11 Cleaning Quirks Confessions22:01 Favorite Clothing Picks26:03 Outfit Repeats Debate27:00 Beauty Myths That Stick27:50 Brunch Sweet Or Savory28:34 Japan Trip Details30:55 Thyroid Antibodies Update35:58 Sleep In Your Forties38:12 Weightlifting Programs Review40:20 He Vapes Now Lore43:18 Love Languages Ranked46:03 Rapid Fire Favorites46:50 Name Change Thoughts48:31 Wrap Up And Japan Feedback

Transcribed - Published: 2 April 2026

We Love You, JT

Saying Goodbye to JT and Finding Support in GriefJoy and Claire discuss travel concerns about altitude sickness for an upcoming Peru trip and past experiences with motion sickness and sleep. The conversation shifts to Joy’s dog JT, who was 14, and the difficult decision to schedule in-home euthanasia after noticing declining mobility. Joy describes the hospice vet process, the peaceful passing, how their other dogs reacted, and choosing private cremation with plans to honor him in Westcliff. They discuss the intensity of pet grief, support from friends, work boundaries, pet loss groups, and the community’s messages and donations to Canine Companions in JT’s name.Pet Loss Grief Explained03:57 Peru Altitude Worries06:50 Seasickness and Dramamine08:26 Sleep Then and Now11:23 Dog Blanket Antics12:37 Saying Goodbye to JT13:33 Senior Dog Decline Signs18:00 Calling Hospice Vet21:54 Making the Hard Choice24:58 Facing the Decline26:00 No Judgment Decisions28:47 Quality of Life Tools32:53 Saying Goodbye at Home35:25 Support and Work Boundaries39:25 Why Pet Grief Hits Hard40:55 Memorial Plans and Support Groups43:41 Laughing Through the Pain46:58 Community Thanks and Closing

Transcribed - Published: 26 March 2026

Navigating Healthcare, Travel, and Choices: A Conversation with Emily Scott

Two Dusty Travelers: COVID Front Lines, L&D Mistrust, and Choosing a Childfree LifeJoy and Claire hosts Emily Scott (Two Dusty Travelers), an RN known for caring for the first diagnosed hospitalized COVID patient in the U.S., to discuss how her platform evolved beyond “the COVID lady” and how politics and misinformation have fueled distrust in healthcare. Emily, now a labor and delivery nurse with a background in peace studies and global health work in East Africa, describes rising patient suspicion since 2020, including refusal of newborn hepatitis B vaccination, vitamin K, and other standard care, and notes anti-vax sentiment even among some nurses. They discuss the difficulty of changing minds at scale versus through long one-on-one conversations, the pressures and taboos around being childfree by choice and parental regret, and gaps in pain management for IUD insertion. Emily shares hope as sustained effort plus balance, and highlights Tanzania as a favorite destination, inviting interest in her group trips and naming Namibia as a future goal.02:37 Politics and Online Unfollows03:54 From Global Health to L&D05:10 Mistrust in Healthcare Now06:43 Newborn Shots and Misinformation08:07 Wild Hospital Stories12:06 Anti Vax Nurses and Vaccine Clinics13:55 Bridging the Gap with Skeptics16:41 Childfree by Choice Conversation25:09 Pressure, Regret, and Nuance28:51 Sliding Doors and What Ifs33:19 Childfree Without Shame33:44 TikTok Narratives and Stigma34:46 Pop Culture and TV Time35:43 Why Romance Feels Safe37:49 Spicy Talk and Sex Ed Gaps38:50 IUD Pain Control Reality44:17 Labor Stories and Trusting Bodies45:23 Home Birth vs Hospital Birth49:21 Hope and Fighting Burnout54:27 East Africa Travel Plans57:05 Wrap Up and Where to Find Us

Transcribed - Published: 19 March 2026

Life Updates: Heat, Mindfulness, and Travel Plans

Moab Heat, Busy Spring Travel, Mindfulness, and Protein-Obsessed Expo WestJoy and Claire catch up on Moab’s early heat, a recent snowstorm, and packed spring schedules including Arizona, Peru, river trips, and work travel. Claire recaps attending Expo West in Anaheim, meeting David Fitzpatrick at Disneyland for ice cream, and a stressful return trip involving a sprinting airport connection and a tiny flight back to Moab. They pivot to a Q&A on favorite times of day and desserts, then discuss goals for the year. They reflect on concussion/whiplash recovery, long-term “physical 401k” health, shifting body-image perspectives, and concerns about normalizing extreme thinness. They preview upcoming episodes on financial planning, estate planning, and being childless by choice, and close with Expo West trends like protein/creatine in everything, cottage-cheese ice cream, fiber products, and skepticism about AG1 in favor of comprehensive multivitamins.00:00 Moab Heat Check01:14 Snow Days and Busy March02:47 Expo West and Disneyland Ice Cream03:55 Small Airports and Sprinting Connections06:32 Sweaty Travel and Heat Rants08:48 Q and A Kickoff Favorites09:47 Dogs Dinner Witching Hour12:38 Goals Workouts and Mountain Biking15:28 Mindfulness and Travel Anxiety18:42 What Mindfulness Really Is21:08 Why Worry Persists22:14 Mindfulness Practice Tools23:17 Concussion Recovery Lessons25:13 Physical Health Bank26:30 Training Frustrations Mindset29:58 Body Image Aging Shift31:21 Ozempic Culture Concerns33:08 Celebrity Health Discourse38:31 Upcoming Money Episodes40:45 Expo West Supplement Hype42:38 AG1 vs Real Multivitamins47:02 Eat Real Food Wrap47:44 Final Sign Off

Transcribed - Published: 12 March 2026

March Milestones

March Check-In: Lifties, Social Media Burnout, Dog Hair Hacks, Moab’s Ageless Party Scene & Love Is Blind OhioJoy and Claire celebrate reaching March! They discuss stepping back from social media—especially TikTok—due to overwhelming news cycles, algorithm/terms concerns, and the unnatural pressure to broadcast constant reactions, preferring fact-based sources and recommending Pantsuit Politics’ State of the Union recap. The conversation shifts to practical home life: kids’ laundry-folding boards, constant vacuuming with multiple dogs, Roombas, grooming and shedding tips, and dental care products. Claire describes Moab’s intergenerational, highly active culture after a themed birthday dance party, then Joy gives a spoiler-filled recap of the new Love Is Blind Ohio season, focusing on a disliked contestant and doubts most couples will last.00:00 Hello March00:16 Liftie Horror Stories01:19 Why Skiers Complain03:19 Bad Snow Season Update04:07 Quitting TikTok for Now06:49 Social Media Reaction Spiral09:56 Mixed Messaging and Gaslighting11:24 Watching the State of the Union14:43 Laundry Folding Boards16:23 Dog Hair and Vacuum Life17:04 Feeling Bad for the Roomba19:48 De-Shedding Dog Wash Tips21:44 Dog Bathing Tips22:40 Managing Fur Everywhere24:01 Laundry Hair Hacks25:50 Dental Care Routine26:25 Moab Age Vibes32:58 Dance Party DJ Fails33:46 Love Is Blind Recap40:51 Why We Watch Trainwreck TV43:16 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us

Transcribed - Published: 5 March 2026

The Situation is Bruh

Burro Brave, Hormone Swings, and Everything Is BearsJoy and Claire open by noting they sometimes need lighter conversations amid ongoing political distress. Joy shares an update on trying Colorado’s official heritage sport, pack burro racing, during a training run with rescue donkeys from REdonculous Ranch Rescue Sanctuary. Joy also updates on puppy-raising Lilas and will be turned in for training in mid-May. Claire discusses upcoming Peru travel, extending her trip to surf, and signing her mom up for a women 55+ Surf With Amigas retreat. They also discuss testosterone therapy effects, perimenopause mood swings, cycle tracking, partner communication, and humor around stress.04:17 Donkey Bite Story07:14 First Training Run11:26 How Donkeys Run15:10 Why It Felt Peaceful19:04 Be Burro Brave20:40 Puppy Update25:46 Travel Plans Ahead27:27 Mom Surf Trip27:58 Surf Trip For 55 Plus29:55 Planning Peru And Japan30:44 Testosterone Shot Updates32:45 Libido And Hormone Talk35:07 Perimenopause Mood Swings38:04 Tracking Cycles And Stigma42:48 What A Time To Be Alive47:29 Everything Is Bears Tool49:40 Unhinged Comments 53:34 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us

Transcribed - Published: 26 February 2026

Donkey Races and Podcast Picks

Podcasts They Hate, Olympics Distractions, and Donkey Races Joy and Claire record an early-morning episode with chat friends. The conversation shifts to popular podcasts they dislike or don’t understand the hype around.They discuss watching the Olympics as a welcome distraction.Joy shares two personal updates: discovering a local nonprofit tied to pack burro racing REdonculous Ranch Sanctuary and Rescue (connected to Colorado mining history)—and planning to shadow a four-mile training run with a rescue donkey near her home.04:34 True Crime Fatigue: Crime Junkie, Serial Aftershocks & Ethics06:51 Podcast Crush: Amy Poehler’s ‘Good Hang’ + The Lip Balm Break09:05 The ‘Open Marriage’ Spoof Story That Freaked Brandon Out11:04 Politics & Sanity Checks: Pod Save America + Chart Oddities12:28 Rants & Red Flags: Megyn Kelly, Mel Robbins, SmartLess & Celebrity Overload21:33 From Podcasts to Olympics: Curling Confusion, Luge Laughs & Crash Anxiety24:33 Olympics obsession: biathlon memes & why it’s so fun to watch25:22 Figure skating highlight: the wild core-strength partner move explained28:15 Ski jumping scandal: the ‘extra fabric’ suit-cheating story30:24 Olympics side chatter: celeb sightings, Devil Wears Prada 2 31:12 New adventure unlocked: running with rescue donkeys (pack burro racing)36:54 Perimenopause surprises: itchy ear canals, TikTok hacks & symptom rant40:03 Testosterone update: sleep improvements, sweating side effects & stress reality check41:50 Hair & scalp care deep dive: Act + Acre, hard water, iron/ferritin and hair loss

Transcribed - Published: 19 February 2026

Olympics, Winter Gear, and Valentine's Day

Cozy Convos and Winter Gear EssentialsIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts catch up bright and early to celebrate Evie's seventh birthday, discussing themed party decorations, birthday plans, and a DIY at-home salon experience. They also talk about the challenges of walking dogs in cold weather, sharing their favorite heated winter gear including gloves, mugs, and vests. The conversation turns to the Olympics, emotionally touching on the pressures young athletes face and the recent heartbreaking news about Savannah Guthrie's mom. The episode closes with Valentine's Day plans and the importance of staying cozy and connected during the winter months.02:48 Gymnastics and Emotional Resilience04:01 Olympic Moments and Parenting12:21 Cold Weather Essentials25:35 Scott's Stylish Influence25:41 Slipper Talk: The Good and the Bad27:17 Indoor Footwear Preferences29:01 Heated Vests and Staying Warm30:28 Valentine's Day Plans31:13 Puppy Love: Meet Laurel33:31 Parenting and School Differences34:54 Scott's Fashion Adventures45:43 The Savannah Guthrie Kidnapping48:12 Olympic Athletes and Sacrifice49:21 Closing Thoughts and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 12 February 2026

Currently Coping

In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the duo recounts their tumultuous yet amusing start to the day involving Joy's smoke detector mishap and a series of supposed ghostly disturbances. They shift to reflections on the recent passing of Catherine O'Hara, discussing the impact of celebrity deaths on fans. The hosts also tackle heavier topics such as the duty of public figures and therapists to address political issues, and the mental toll of current world events. The episode wraps up with light-hearted chatter on protein-packed foods and ends with actionable advice on managing hormone levels for mental health. SLEEP ASMRTIST INNA

Transcribed - Published: 5 February 2026

Change and Uncertainty

Navigating Anger and Staying Resilient During Turbulent TimesIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder,' Joy and Claire discuss the intense and fast-paced changes occurring in their lives and the world. Recorded on January 25th, they delve into the ongoing political upheaval, emphasizing the challenges of maintaining daily routines amidst chaos. They reflect on the strain of constant anger, the importance of focusing on productive actions, and the psychological reasons behind our fixation on negative news. Finally, Joy considers a return to Crossfit.ADAM GRANT / DARYL DAVIS INTERVIEWLORETTA ROSS CALLING IN CONVERSATIONS

Transcribed - Published: 29 January 2026

Dance Moms, Protests, and Unexpected Friendships

Embracing Community Activism and Surviving January's Long HaulIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts discuss the unending stretch of January and how activity-packed months like November and December make the lack of events in January particularly noticeable. Claire talks about Moab's upcoming celebrations and community dynamics, including her daughter's first dance recital and observing distinct 'mom outfits' in Utah. Joy shares her uplifting experience attending a local 'No ICE' protest, emphasizing the importance of community support and peaceful activism. They also touch on the challenges of navigating societal expectations and roles, touching on topics from supporting each other's mental health to participating in activism for social justice. They end the show by appreciating their supportive community and encouraging others to take small but meaningful steps towards involvement in societal issues.02:08 Weather Talk and Sleep Stories05:17 Moab Life and Dance Recitals06:26 Dance Moms and Utah Culture13:31 Gender Roles and Parenting Challenges21:15 Sports Talk and Family Anecdotes23:47 Possum and Feral Cat Stories26:33 Raccoons and Other Wildlife Encounters28:53 Protesting for Change37:43 Community and Connection48:03 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 22 January 2026

Managing Rage

Navigating Time Perception, Synesthesia, and Political DiscourseIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' hosts Joy and Claire explore various themes ranging from the unusual passage of time in January to personal experiences with synesthesia. Joy describes her unique way of visualizing time, which leads to a discussion on how different people use and view calendars. The episode also delves into the emotional and psychological effects of the current political climate, as Joy and Claire discuss the overwhelming sense of rage and misinformation. They emphasize the importance of personal responsibility, mental health, and community engagement as ways to navigate these challenging times, while touching upon mindfulness practices and the impact of cognitive behavioral therapy.02:02 Understanding Synesthesia07:17 Travel Memories and Group Tours12:12 Relationship Dynamics and Personal Growth16:54 Perimenopause and Shifting Priorities19:32 Starting Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy20:01 Struggles with Mindfulness and Meditation20:36 First Impressions of the Class21:59 Personal Growth and Realizations22:33 Mindfulness and Mental Health25:44 Navigating the State of the World29:08 The Role of Rage in Society40:45 Media Bias and Misinformation44:51 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

Transcribed - Published: 15 January 2026

Neighborhood Watch, Knitting, and Happiness in 2026

In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts kick off the new year by discussing their New Year's Eve celebrations. They share personal anecdotes, including Joy's dinner at a new seafood restaurant and funny neighborhood stories like a false bomb scare. They discuss their goals for the year, the stress of staying informed via social media, and their thoughts on celebrity influence and societal changes. The episode wraps up with Claire's updates on her health and new primary care experiences, as well as a reflection on the strange world of influencer diets and detox myths.CBT-I FOR SLEEP02:40 Social Media and Safety Concerns04:50 Hilarious Neighborhood Incident15:20 Neighborhood Watch and Safety24:15 Crafting and Crocheting Enthusiasm25:45 Knitting Needles and Crafting Tools28:11 Funny Moments and Lava Lamps29:02 Book Discussions and Reviews33:19 Running Races and Personal Goals35:22 Mindfulness and Sleep Practices45:19 Current Events and Celebrity Influence48:53 Dieticians and Influencers49:34 Supplement Skepticism and Final Thoughts

Transcribed - Published: 8 January 2026

New Year Chat and Listener Q&A

New Year's ReflectionsIn this episode we reflect on their New Year's Eve traditions and discuss holiday must-have dishes, and the challenges of keeping children up past their bedtime. We also share favorite gadgets, best and worst culinary experiences of the past year, and thoughts on returning to CrossFit. Listeners' questions cover a variety of topics, from favorite beauty products to memorable podcast episodes and goals for 2026.02:36 Parenting Challenges on New Year's03:40 A Sad Night Before Christmas Eve06:01 New Year's Traditions and Q&A11:20 Favorite Gadgets and Purchases24:11 Knitting Memories and Goals for the New House25:56 Fitness Goals and Finding Motivation27:44 CrossFit Reflections and Community33:30 Favorite Body Washes and Funny Stories36:57 Podcast Beginnings and Memorable Episodes

Transcribed - Published: 1 January 2026

Unexpected Paths and Future Hopes

Navigating Life ChangesIn this light-hearted episode of 'Older and Wilder,' the hosts start off with a humorous and candid chat and touch on their unique Christmas traditions, reflecting on the past year, and discussing the nuances of moving to a new city with kids. The conversation also covers deeper topics like job market challenges, personal growth, and the significance of the winter solstice. Listeners can expect a blend of humor, heartfelt reflections, and practical advice, perfect for the holiday season.01:01 Mobile Grooming and House Cleaning Woes01:48 Deep Cleaning Disappointments05:00 Holiday Greetings and Traditions05:54 Winter Solstice and Star Gazing11:02 Sandy and Herbert's Legacy16:35 Christmas Plans and Reflections22:08 Winter Break Plans and Weather Woes24:15 Listener Question: Pros and Cons of Moving to a New City28:46 Reflections on Personal Growth in 202531:04 Navigating the Job Market and Career Challenges

Transcribed - Published: 25 December 2025

A Reflection of 2025

TikTok Strategy, Memory Lane, and New BeginningsIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder,' Joy and Claire discuss their evolving TikTok strategy and the importance of going live to engage their community. They share nostalgic memories of their old house and the warmth of its new owners. Claire talks about the struggles of finding healthcare providers, especially after relocating, and Joy recounts a scary health experience. They delve into their aspirations for the coming year, focusing on taking creative risks and being less concerned with public opinion. The episode wraps up with brainstorming ideas for live events, including a potential recording in Venice.01:49 Favorite TikTok and Instagram Accounts06:18 Weather Report and Local Jokes12:21 Healthcare Frustrations and Insurance Issues17:47 Finding New Healthcare Providers20:36 Daily Routines and Health Maintenance24:54 Dengue Fever and Ear Infections27:10 Surfing Accident and Sickness in Mexico30:35 Almost Dying from COVID in Ireland33:08 Visiting the Old House37:04 Tenant Stories and House Maintenance40:54 New Year's Resolutions and Podcast Goals51:22 Live Event Plans and Conclusion

Transcribed - Published: 18 December 2025

Navigating Wellness Trends

Discussing Pronunciations, GLP-1 Medications, and Holiday Family AnecdotesIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire the conversation shifts to a critical discussion on GLP-1 medications for weight loss, including personal and professional perspectives on their effects, and concerns about their potential misuse in eating disorder cases. The hosts also address the pressures of cosmetic procedures and the broader impact of societal beauty standards. The episode concludes with thoughts on goal setting for the new year and a reflection on the importance of community interactions.07:53 Community Interactions and Social Dynamics14:12 Family Stories and Holiday Traditions22:03 GLP-1 Medications and Influencer Culture24:34 Listener Feedback on GLP-1 and Body Image28:00 Reflections on Cosmetic Procedures and Aging37:19 Concerns About GLP-1 in the Military40:20 Psychological Perspectives on GLP-144:01 Closing Thoughts and Year-End Reflections

Transcribed - Published: 11 December 2025

Diet Culture’s Celebrity Problem

Holiday Preparations, Pet Adventures, and Cultural CommentaryIn this episode of Older and Wilder, Joy and Claire dive into holiday preparations, discussing their Christmas decorations, Black Friday shopping adventures, and family traditions. Joy shares her amusing experience at Sheels and updates on Lila's progress. The conversation transitions into a critical discussion about the widespread use of GLP-1 weight loss drugs, their cultural impact, and concerns regarding long-term mental and physical health. The episode wraps up with a holiday gift guide, offering thoughtful and unique gift ideas for friends and loved ones.00:35 Holiday Preparations and Decorations02:02 Black Friday Adventures03:24 Exploring Shields08:24 Dog Training and Family Stories16:31 GLP-1 and Body Positivity Discussion20:18 Cultural Impact of Weight Loss on Women20:55 Celebrity Influence on Body Image22:00 Concerns About Rapid Weight Loss23:59 Mental Health Implications27:02 Accessibility and Misuse of Weight Loss Drugs33:59 Gift Guide and Holiday Shopping

Transcribed - Published: 4 December 2025

Old Lady Gripes

Old Lady Gripes and Thanksgiving VibesIn this episode of Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire, the hosts discuss their Thanksgiving plans and delve into various topics such as holiday preparations, stress dreams, and adjusting to new routines. They share personal anecdotes about the challenges of living in a new neighborhood, the quirks of pets, and road rage incidents. The conversation also touches on the power of poetry and the inspiring documentary 'Come See Me in the Good Light' about the late poet Andrea Gibson. 02:42 Dreams and Moving Stories09:09 Driving Anxieties and Road Rage10:46 Costco Adventures and Shopping Tips15:11 Travel Plans and Upcoming Trips20:16 Express Lane Road Rage Incident24:17 Reporting an Aggressive Driver30:06 Thanksgiving and Birthday Plans36:59 Dog Adjustments and Nail Trimming Challenges45:18 Andrea Gibson's Documentary53:47 Wrapping Up and Social Media

Transcribed - Published: 27 November 2025

Seasonal Snacking and Going Alcohol-Free

Unpacking Holiday Traditions, Sustainable Candle Tips, and Life Post-PandemicIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts delve into a lively discussion about their favorite holiday products from Trader Joe's, particularly the sought-after peppermint chocolate Jojo's. They also touch on candle warmers and recycling tips. A significant part of the conversation centers around their evolving relationship with alcohol, influenced by health considerations and personal well-being. Lastly, they reflect on the lasting impacts of the pandemic on social behaviors and mental health, and the collective experience of navigating life post-lockdown.00:19 Trader Joe's Fall and Christmas Products02:18 Candle Warmers and Recycling03:22 Podcast Chat and Scheduling05:32 Gift Guide and Cold Foam Obsession06:07 Nighttime Beverage Routine08:16 Alcohol and Lifestyle Changes19:44 Personal Experiences with Alcohol23:07 San Diego Memories and Grad School23:30 Reflections on Alcohol and Mental Health24:50 Hormonal Health and Alcohol28:21 Social Dynamics of Not Drinking30:44 Hair Thinning and Testosterone33:42 Celebrity Beauty Standards42:51 Pandemic Isolation and Social Changes

Transcribed - Published: 20 November 2025

JT's Birthday Bash and TikTok Trends

Dog Birthday Bash and TikTok TrendsIn this engaging episode of 'Older and Wilder,' hosts dive into hosting a dog birthday party for JT, who just turned 14. They discuss the joys, preparations, and challenges of throwing the party, including preparations and entertaining guests—both human and canine. The conversation transitions to reflections on changes over the years, the impact of social media, and the dynamics of TikTok, touching on recent pop culture topics such as the new season of 'Selling Sunset' and 'The Great British Baking Show.' A heartwarming look into pet ownership, social events, and the evolution of social media interactions.00:32 JT's Birthday Party01:10 Dog Health and Care02:35 Memories and Reflections04:59 Community and Connections12:09 TikTok and Social Media Insights21:27 Party Preparations and Fun24:07 A Trip to Grand Junction24:48 Stocking Up on Cold Foam25:26 Costco Orange Chicken and Party Snacks27:19 Dog Birthday Party Fun30:08 Pop Culture Updates35:04 Great British Baking Show Finale38:01 Taylor Swift Documentary Excitement41:48 Teenage Trends and Memes44:50 Wrapping Up and Goodbyes

Transcribed - Published: 13 November 2025

Unpacking Life in Moab

Chaos and Catch-Up: Moving Tales, Packing Fails, and MoreIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder,' Claire and Joy catch up on life updates, including Claire's move to Moab, unpacking struggles, and addressing packing mishaps. They also delve into amusing anecdotes about their partners' packing skills, navigating mountain roads, and the trials of driving through snowy I-70. Claire shares her family's transition to a new home, dealing with rental issues, and missing loved ones left behind. They touch upon Halloween costumes, art decor preferences, and managing moving expenses. Towards the end they reflect on the ongoing challenges of podcasting and express gratitude for their listeners' support.00:32 Moving Woes and Packing Struggles01:07 Funny Anecdotes and Pet Peeves06:42 Travel Troubles and Weather Woes13:41 Settling In and Home Improvements19:23 Furniture Shopping and Recommendations24:17 Renting vs. Owning: The Struggles25:23 Deep Cleaning and House Repairs27:15 Settling In and Unpacking28:12 Core Memories and Moving Stories35:25 Art and Home Decor44:26 Halloween Fun and Costumes48:32 Podcast Updates and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 6 November 2025

Navigating Change and Embracing Now

Living in the Moment: Joy and Claire's Conversation About Life, Aging, and MovingIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts discuss the challenges and humor of organizing and letting go of old possessions. A humorous tangent about following a weatherman named Kody leads to a delightful chat about clouds and teenage humor. The conversation then takes a reflective turn as the hosts discuss the importance of living in the moment and not letting long-term anxiety overshadow present happiness. Joy shares thoughts on aging, setting short-term goals, and avoiding the mindset that limits life experiences. Real-life anecdotes about their families' attitudes toward health and aging are shared, along with reflections on their past memories and aspirations. The episode concludes with light banter and farewells.00:23 Moving Woes and Nostalgia07:19 Weather Talk and Humorous Observations34:02 Reflections on Aging and Life Goals46:23 Concluding Thoughts and Farewells

Transcribed - Published: 30 October 2025

Autumn Fun and Big Moves

Embracing Spooky Season: Halloween Decor Stories and Parenting MilestonesIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder,' hosts Joy and Claire delve into the spirit of Halloween, discussing their past and current Halloween decorations, the joys and struggles of holiday decorating, and unique neighborhood traditions. The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes including nostalgic memories and parenting reflections as Claire celebrates 10 years of motherhood. Additionally, they touch on home remedies, the impact of social media on purchasing decisions, and tips for choosing quality supplements. The episode concludes with a blend of fun updates about scary movies, Taylor Swift-inspired dance outfits, and birthday plans for Claire’s son.

Transcribed - Published: 23 October 2025

A True Story of Speaking Up

How do you reclaim your life after it's been burned to the ground by systemic corruption?SubstackLong-time friends Sarah Carter and Corinne Shark are forced to find out after joining brave survivors and speaking out about their own experiences of religious corruption and sexual misconduct within two organizations.Using a storytelling arc, Sarah and Corinne weave together the cost of courage, the hope of healing, and the slow journey back to themselves after losing nearly everything in the fallout. The Skies Are Full of Us is a beacon flickering bright through the dark of night, an invitation to grab a blanket and curl up by the fire with the authors and bear witness to the collective liberation that happens when we tell the truth about our lives.

Transcribed - Published: 16 October 2025

October Updates

Joy and Claire: Moving Memories, Taylor Swift, and Dog PersonalitiesIn this episode, Joy and Claire discuss a range of topics from 'Mean Girls Day' to celebrating the new Taylor Swift album release. The hosts reminisce about their stressful moving experiences and express views on the nature of happiness and talk therapy. The episode concludes with cute anecdotes about their dogs' personalities, favorite treats, and playtime quirks.01:25 Taylor Swift's New Album Excitement02:23 The High Costs and Stress of Moving04:34 Memorable Moving Stories07:56 Listener Advice and Moving Reflections22:03 Cold Foam Beverages and Podcast Memories25:06 Diet Trends and Plant-Based Eating26:43 The Best Vegan Reuben at Gladys29:24 Pup Cups and Dog Treats32:13 Therapy and Mental Health Insights37:23 Dog Personalities and Preferences48:28 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 9 October 2025

Q&A, Cold Foam, and Beauty Product Picks

Cozy Catch-Ups: Books, Movies, and Fall FavoritesIn this episode, Joy and Claire kick off with a light-hearted chat about Instagram ads suggesting moves to Canada. They discuss favorite book-to-movie adaptations, with Claire favoring Harry Potter and Joy listing several, including 'Devil Wears Prada' and 'Gone Girl'. Nostalgic and beloved movies like 'Beetlejuice' and '16 Candles' are touched upon, along with TV series picks such as 'Fleabag' and 'Derry Girls'. The chat rounds out with fall favorites from Trader Joe's, beauty product recommendations, the arduous moving process for Claire, and the joys of discovering cold foam drinks. The episode is packed with laughter, movie and book insights, fall fun, and personal updates.01:40 Q&A Kickoff: Favorite Book Turned Movie04:10 Comfort Movies and Nostalgia10:41 Halloween and Christmas Movie Favorites15:10 TV Series and Binge-Watching20:14 Chain Restaurants and Celebrity Hangouts21:42 Celebrity Dinner Party Picks23:48 Favorite Beauty Products29:51 Podcast Critiques and Recommendations33:17 Moving to a Rural Town40:40 Taylor Swift Movie Plans41:53 Trader Joe's Fall Haul42:22 Cold Foam Craze45:09 Concluding Remarks

Transcribed - Published: 2 October 2025

PBR Trails and Public Opinion

In this episode of Older and Wilder, Joy and Claire talk about Claire's weekend mountain biking festival in Fruita. They delve into detailed experiences about the festival, the local attractions, and the logistics of mountain biking in the area. The conversation then transitions to broader, more serious topics including political and social issues, addressing the overwhelming nature of real-time news and social media reactions. They discuss the impact of polarized political rhetoric, the degradation of civil discourse, and the mental health tolls of constant media consumption. The hosts also explore the challenges in the current job market, especially with automated systems in the recruiting process, and stress the importance of personal connections. They conclude by reflecting on generational differences in attitudes towards aging and self-assistance, particularly within outdoor sports communities.00:55 Mountain Biking Festival Highlights03:58 Packing and Moving Plans04:59 Political Commentary and Social Media Impact11:34 Processing Tragic Events and Media Consumption23:29 Community and Solidarity in Difficult Times25:08 Finding Rational Voices Amidst Chaos30:12 Navigating the Job Market Challenges38:38 Embracing E-Bikes and Overcoming Ageism46:36 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 25 September 2025

Saunas and Swiss Rolls

Moving Plans, Sauna Workouts, and Lip Filler ExperiencesIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder,' Joy and Claire discuss Claire's upcoming move to Moab, including packing strategies and tenant updates. They also talk about Joy's birthday adventures, including hiking the incline and discovering a new workout studio called HotWORX, which features individual sauna rooms for various exercises. Claire shares her experience getting lip fillers, detailing the procedure and results. The hosts touch on their love for Trader Joe's and new skincare routines, and briefly mention their other podcast dedicated to Taylor Swift, Taylore!00:18 Moving Plans and Challenges02:55 Packing Strategies and Past Experiences07:01 Bake Off and Baking Adventures13:53 Taylor Podcast and Lip Filler Experience19:57 Botox and Beauty Treatments23:05 Gina's Less is More Approach to Botox24:00 The Importance of a Moisturizer Routine24:40 Exploring Cold Foam and Grocery Shopping25:51 Whole Foods and Amazon's Impact33:04 Birthday Adventures and Hiking the Incline36:10 Discovering Hot Works Sauna Studio45:46 Trader Joe's Cookbook and Final Thoughts@joyandclaire_

Transcribed - Published: 18 September 2025

Flights, Fillers, and Birthday Plans

Embracing Aging and Unexpected Life MomentsIn this episode of Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire, the hosts discuss a range of topics from the privilege of aging to the unexpected events in life. The conversation shifts to the importance of living fully and being present. Joy shares her recent experience flying with Frontier Airlines and the quirks and benefits of the budget airline. Claire recaps attending a family wedding in Madison, her children's growth, and the endearing moments from the trip. They end by talking about upcoming birthday plans, beauty treatments, and the potential of becoming successful influencers on TikTok.00:40 Andrea Gibson's Impactful Message01:53 Balancing Life and Aging04:27 Personal Reflections on Aging04:56 Lip Fillers and Cosmetic Procedures08:29 A Heartbreaking Story of Loss15:37 Living Fully and Letting Go18:26 Birthday Plans and Simple Joys22:06 Great British Bakeoff Update24:00 Swiss Roll Challenge25:13 Frontier Airlines Experience29:12 Bidding for Premium Seats37:52 Wedding in Madison39:37 TikTok and Influencer Insights43:24 Concluding Remarks

Transcribed - Published: 11 September 2025

Ten Days of Joy

Joy and Claire kick off the episode, tease a Taylor episode, and talk about their new podcasting adventures.00:50 – Art History Nerd-Out & Museum MishapsJoy reminisces about art history, shares a hilarious story about a couple breaking a Van Gogh chair, and the hosts discuss rule-following and public etiquette.03:20 – Loud Cars, Truck Nuts, and Fall VibesA funny reel about loud cars, the infamous “truck nuts,” and the excitement of the fall season.04:35 – Birthday Season & “10 Days of Joy”Joy’s birthday is coming up! She shares her birthday plans, the “10 Days of Joy,” and the magic of sweatpant jeans.06:30 – Cake Talk & Favorite Birthday TreatsThe hosts discuss their favorite cakes, local bakeries, and the ongoing saga of the ice cream cake in Claire’s freezer.10:05 – Reflections on Aging, Style, and Body ImageJoy and Claire get candid about turning 48, body image, letting go of old style rules, and embracing comfort and confidence.19:30 – Fashion at Baseball Games & High School FootballClaire describes the fashion microcosms at local sporting events and the pressure some moms feel to keep up with their kids’ style.22:00 – Mom Drama, PTO Stories, and Social HierarchiesThe hosts dive into “mom culture,” PTO drama, and the social dynamics of parenting in Boulder.26:00 – The Realities of Getting Older: Energy, Sleep, and Going OutJoy and Claire talk about how their social lives and energy levels have changed, the lure of early bedtimes, and the struggle to bounce back after a night out.33:00 – Routines, Night Owls, and Embracing Your True SelfMemories of strict routines, being a lifelong early bird, and the freedom of not needing to be “cool.”39:00 – Creatine, Caffeine, and Hot TipsClaire shares a quick tip about creatine and caffeine, and the hosts wrap up with gratitude and birthday wishes.Where to find Joy and Claire online, and a heartfelt thank you to listeners.Connect with us:Instagram: @JoyandClaire_Email: OlderWilderPodcast@gmail.com

Transcribed - Published: 4 September 2025

TayLore and Ophelia 101

We recorded this episode BEFORE the engagement announcement. See our emergency episode on the Taylore podcast feed.Diving into Taylor Swift Theories and OriginsIn this episode of Older and Wilder, Joy and Claire delve into the fascinating world of Taylor Swift, discussing her career, cultural impact, and fan theories. They explore various topics including Taylor's transition from country to pop and Taylor's business acumen in marketing and branding. The hosts also engage in a detailed discussion about the symbolism of Ophelia from Hamlet and its potential connection to Swift’s latest album cover. They touch upon the fan-driven conspiracy theories and the phenomenon of Easter eggs in Taylor Swift’s work, providing insights into the singer's strategy and the fervor of her dedicated fanbase.03:06 Taylor Swift: A Deep Dive04:23 Claire's Pop Culture Preferences06:03 Taylor Swift's Evolution and Impact10:02 Personal Taylor Swift Stories23:13 Taylor Swift's Business Acumen26:31 The Evolution of Taylor Swift's Concerts27:32 Taylor Swift's Intimate Fan Engagements28:33 Maintaining an Approachable Image30:11 Taylor Swift's Strategic Marketing Genius31:16 Ophelia Symbolism in Taylor Swift's Work35:47 Analyzing Taylor Swift's Easter Eggs49:50 Theories and Speculations

Transcribed - Published: 28 August 2025

Taylor Swift and Moab Moves

Moving to Moab, Taylor Swift's Easter Eggs, and Managing Finances with Your PartnerIn this episode of the Older and Wiser podcast, hosts Joy and Claire kick off the episode with lively discussions about various topics. They share an update on their upcoming move to Moab, discussing the real estate market and their plans to rent out their current home. The conversation then shifts to Taylor Swift's recent album release, her appearance on the New Heights Podcast, and the intricate web of Easter eggs her fans analyze. Finally, the hosts answer a listener's question about how they manage their finances with their partners, comparing their different approaches to handling joint and separate accounts. Join in for an engaging chat about life updates, pop culture, and practical relationship advice.01:14 Episode Agenda and Topics01:55 Moving to Moab03:22 Real Estate Market Insights05:11 Renting Out the House07:07 Concerns About the Move08:36 Kids' School Transition10:20 Taylor Swift's New Album11:55 Taylor Swift's Podcast Appearance16:42 Criticism and Public Perception20:41 Podcast Review and Final Thoughts25:21 Desiring More Personal Insights26:02 Podcast Easter Egg Idea26:55 Taylor Swift on the Podcast30:23 Peru Trip Updates34:10 Listener Question: Managing Finances in Marriage

Transcribed - Published: 21 August 2025

Pop Culture & Personal Growth

In this episode of Older and Wilder, hosts Joy and Claire catch up on a range of topics, from Claire's work-from-home experience in Moab to Joy's upcoming birthday plans and gift ideas. They discuss hair plans, including a trip to Norm's barbershop, and dive into a candid chat about workout routines, including Joy's Peloton sessions and Scott's dedication to Orange Theory. The conversation shifts to entertainment, with Joy recommending Mark Maron's HBO special 'Panicked' and cautioning against watching 'The Hunting Wives.' They also touch on Joy's positive experience with hormone replacement therapy and the benefits it has brought to her workouts. Finally, the hosts share laughs over travel mishaps and the joys of dog class with Joy’s adorable pup, Lilas.00:19 Moab Adventures and Hair Plans06:34 Back to School Season12:42 Birthday Season and Gift Ideas13:30 Swimsuit Shopping and Upcoming Trip15:57 Hair and Beauty Updates20:19 TV Show Reviews: The Hunting Wives26:21 Podcast Recommendations29:40 Improv Comedy and Divorce Shows31:49 Mark Marin's HBO Special35:55 Scott's Orange Theory Obsession37:33 Frontier Airlines Dilemma43:12 Home Gym vs. CrossFit50:29 Hormone Replacement Therapy Benefits54:18 Cute Dog Moments

Transcribed - Published: 14 August 2025

Fake Calories and Real Adventures

State Fairs, Fried Foods, and Funny Family SayingsIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' Joy and Claire kick off the conversation discussing unusual state fair foods and their favorite fried treats, including corn dogs and fried Oreos. They humorously touch on quirky family sayings and inside jokes that have become part of their daily lexicon. The duo also answers listener questions about Red Rocks concert tips, board games, and whether they track their step counts. Joy reveals how she's navigating hormone therapy with progesterone and testosterone, while Claire shares her love for family-friendly versions of Cards Against Humanity. The episode wraps up with Joy and Claire’s take on the filter bubble around beauty standards, influenced by pop culture and social media trends.00:19 Welcome to the Podcast00:36 State Fair Memories and Fried Foods08:15 Nostalgic Trends and Mall Memories14:11 Kids and Cars19:16 Facebook Marketplace Adventures23:56 Kim Kardashian's Skims and Social Media Trends27:20 Discussing Skims and Personal Experiences29:04 Merino Wool Underwear: A Deep Dive34:32 Red Rocks Concert Tips48:19 Funny Family Sayings and Mistakes53:30 Favorite Board and Card Games57:32 Wrapping Up and Contact Information

Transcribed - Published: 7 August 2025

Q&A with Joy and Claire: Reflection and Rituals

In this episode of Older and Wilder, hosts Joy and Claire catch up sharing laugh-out-loud stories and personal anecdotes. Claire provides an update on her vacation-turned-work trip to Moab, including the nuances of balancing work and family activities. The discussion takes a heartfelt turn as both hosts reflect on cherished memories with their grandparents and consider the sliding door moments that could have altered their life paths. The conversation also touches on manifestation, the impact of AI in therapy, and humorous thoughts on potential Freaky Friday body swaps. Additionally, they offer tips for visiting Las Vegas, share funny experiences with gifts, and dive into their current reading lists. As always, the hosts interact with lively comments from their chat audience, adding to the dynamic and engaging nature of the show.01:18 Vacation and Work Balance02:58 Dog Adventures and Challenges09:23 Halloween Preparations14:20 Q&A Session Begins14:28 Memorable Gifts and Family Traditions23:34 Sliding Door Moments28:04 Reflecting on Life in Colorado28:20 Favorite Grandparent Stories31:32 Funny Grandmother Memories33:42 Grandparents' Influence and Legacy39:26 Cold Appetizers and Vegas Tips42:46 Thoughts on Manifestation47:20 Fitness Routines and Adjustments54:54 AI in Therapy and Freaky Friday58:47 Conclusion and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 31 July 2025

Coldplay and Workplace Drama

HR Horror Stories, Aging with Confidence, and the Coldplay Concert AffairIn this episode of 'Older, Wilder,' hosts Joy and Claire discuss the intricacies of aging and feeling comfortable in one's skin. Claire shares her thoughts on evolving feelings of guilt and confidence in the workplace, while Joy recounts a recent awkward visit to a kidney specialist that reignites body image insecurities. They explore the societal obsession with physical appearance, especially with the advent of GLP-1 drugs. The duo also shares fascinating listener anecdotes about bizarre and shocking HR stories, stemming from a viral Coldplay concert affair that sparked widespread discussion. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own embarrassing work stories and share their experiences. Concluding on a lighter note, they discuss their evolving sense of style and finding joy in dressing authentically.00:24 Karate Progress Check and Scheduling02:07 Podcasting Tips and Equipment04:25 Joining the Live Chat05:37 Hot Gossip: Coldplay Concert Drama15:38 HR Horror Stories27:59 Funny Meme and Social Media Moments30:15 Understanding Guilt and Shame35:19 Navigating Workplace Dynamics43:33 Body Image and Insecurities51:20 Reflections on Aging and Society's Standards01:00:15 Concluding Thoughts and Listener Engagement

Transcribed - Published: 24 July 2025

Summer in Moab

Wait List for PERUIn this episode of Older and Wilder, Joy and Claire discuss a range of topics, from personal experiences and humorous anecdotes to reflections on aging and maturity. Claire talks about staying in a colleague's mom's house in Moab for a month and adjusting to the new environment, while Joy shares a story about rescuing baby birds in her backyard. They explore the realizations that come with getting older, such as the shift away from seeking external validation and the acceptance of life's non-linear paths. The conversation also delves into how having children impacts one's perspective on life and the importance of modeling healthy habits. The episode wraps up with reflections on how their life choices and relationships have evolved over the years, sprinkled with charming and entertaining stories from their lives.01:00 Welcome to Older and Wilder01:10 Life in Moab: Adventures and Daily Life03:38 Work and Family Balance13:01 Bird Nest Drama27:28 Feeling Older: Reflections and Realizations34:21 Realizing the Shift in Life Goals35:16 The Exhaustion of Striving and Comparison36:43 Embracing New Goals and Priorities38:29 Reflecting on Career Choices and Education41:39 Navigating the Job Market and Career Paths44:41 The Impact of Aging on Self-Perception54:40 Parenting and Setting Standards for Children01:01:32 Nostalgia and the Reality of Aging01:11:58 Concluding Thoughts and Podcast Updates

Transcribed - Published: 17 July 2025

Fourth of July Recap

Peru Trip WaitlistIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire', the hosts discuss travel mishaps around the 4th of July. They reflect on the importance of physical activity in relation to longevity, drawing insights from recent studies. Joy shares her experience of a recent trip to Arizona and her adventures at the mall. They also delve into documentaries and Netflix series worth watching, from treasure hunts to maritime disasters. Finally, the episode explores pop culture updates and upcoming reality shows, and wraps up with musings on the latest legislative happenings.04:09 Fireworks and Family Fun08:25 Tour de France and Women's Cycling15:42 Reality TV Updates24:03 Fitness and Longevity Insights28:17 The Challenge of Translating Fitness Data28:39 Questionable Biohacking Metrics29:18 The Importance of Movement30:35 Exercise and Longevity33:05 The Impact of Aging on Health36:01 The Role of Family Support in Fitness39:51 The Influence of Generational Attitudes on Fitness47:04 The Forrest Fenn Treasure Hunt49:45 The Carnival Cruise Disaster56:01 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

Transcribed - Published: 10 July 2025

Birthdays and Breakthroughs

PERU TRIPScott's new fav athletic brandIn this podcast episode, Joy and Claire celebrate Scott's birthday and reminisce about past birthday celebrations, including a memorable Irish cake from a gas station and a surprise party organized by Cian. They discuss Scott's recent concert experience at a Metallica show and share Joy's humorous attempt to buy a birthday gift that Scott secretly had in his cart. Additionally, they delve into topics like Nordstrom's anniversary sale, fragrance products, the dramatic metabolic aspects of Ozempic, and the hilarious pros and cons of high-tech bidet systems that analyze one's health through stool samples.00:00 Scott's Birthday Celebration00:26 Memories of Past Birthdays01:33 Scott's Metallica Concert Experience03:24 Gift Dilemmas and Surprises06:31 Exploring Castle Rock07:45 Scott's New Favorite Athletic Brand11:22 Thrift Shopping and Fashion Preferences17:30 Neighborhood Block Party22:56 Public Lands Policy Discussion33:36 Misunderstandings About Euthanasia34:13 The Complexity of Shelter Labels34:53 Navigating Opinions and Agendas35:36 Addressing Feedback on Ozempic36:19 Personal Reflections on Diet Culture42:47 Menopause Brain Story43:03 The Saga of Ordering Contacts51:54 Spicy Sauvignon Blanc Trend55:07 Nordstrom Anniversary Sale and Home Fragrances58:42 AI-Powered Toilet Seat01:02:49 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 3 July 2025

Hormones Update and Current Workouts

Summer Adventures, Health Updates, and Finding BalanceIn this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' Claire shares her weekend plans for Jackson, while Joy discusses her travel plans and the unpredictable summer weather. The duo delves into health updates, including Joy's journey with hormone replacement therapy and its impact on her well-being. They also touch on fitness routines, the challenges of outdoor exercises in extreme weather, and the quest for flexibility. The episode wraps up with neighborhood stories, Diane's health scare, and practical wellness tips, offering a mix of personal anecdotes, humor, and useful advice.00:00 Introduction and Weekend Plans01:48 Summer Heat and Sleep Struggles04:38 Nostalgic Summer Memories12:11 Neighborhood Dynamics and Small Talk19:18 Fitness and Health Updates22:14 Struggles with Low Sex Drive24:39 Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) Benefits25:34 Existential Dread and Mental Health29:19 Mom's Health Update33:51 Fitness Journey and Goals38:17 Tips for Flexibility and Stretching41:39 Summer Fitness Routine44:36 Healthy Eating Hacks45:32 Conclusion and Contact Information

Transcribed - Published: 26 June 2025

Maryland Celebrations

In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts discuss their exciting travel experiences, including an upcoming sold-out trip to Peru and memorable past trips to Ireland, Costa Rica, and Iceland. They also delve into the personal and emotional journey of Joy's brother, a military officer, who has transitioned out of his flight command role. The conversation touches on the reality of military life, the sacrifices made by service members, and the perspectives gained from these experiences. Additionally, the hosts recount personal anecdotes about family gatherings and surprising moments of political awareness. The episode ends with a reminder for listeners to join the waitlist for the Peru trip.00:17 Excitement About the Peru Trip00:55 Memories from Past Trips05:11 Travel Fears and Overcoming Them08:41 Military Life and Family19:12 Brother's Military Ceremony24:52 Family Time and Mom's Recovery25:32 Graduation and Career Moves27:20 Military Life and Sacrifices27:55 Travel Challenges and Social Gatherings29:58 Father's Day and Ice Cream32:30 First Class Allergy Scare44:36 Political Encounters and Car Choices49:10 Boat Ride with a Twist50:43 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Transcribed - Published: 19 June 2025

Dr. Kayla Cook Answers Your Questions

Reminder! PERU REGISTRATION IS LIVE JUNE 13TH 2025Dr. Kayla Cook returns to the show to answer your health questions! We talk about birth control, whether you can actually ruin your metabolism, and how to better understand your body in midlife. It’s an honest, insightful convo you won’t want to miss.

Transcribed - Published: 12 June 2025

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