Dance Moms, Protests, and Unexpected Friendships
Older & Wilder
GGW Media
4.8 • 619 Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Embracing Community Activism and Surviving January's Long Haul
In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts discuss the unending stretch of January and how activity-packed months like November and December make the lack of events in January particularly noticeable. Claire talks about Moab's upcoming celebrations and community dynamics, including her daughter's first dance recital and observing distinct 'mom outfits' in Utah. Joy shares her uplifting experience attending a local 'No ICE' protest, emphasizing the importance of community support and peaceful activism. They also touch on the challenges of navigating societal expectations and roles, touching on topics from supporting each other's mental health to participating in activism for social justice. They end the show by appreciating their supportive community and encouraging others to take small but meaningful steps towards involvement in societal issues.
02:08 Weather Talk and Sleep Stories
05:17 Moab Life and Dance Recitals
06:26 Dance Moms and Utah Culture
13:31 Gender Roles and Parenting Challenges
21:15 Sports Talk and Family Anecdotes
23:47 Possum and Feral Cat Stories
26:33 Raccoons and Other Wildlife Encounters
28:53 Protesting for Change
37:43 Community and Connection
48:03 Final Thoughts and Farewell
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everybody. |
| 0:05.9 | Welcome to Older and Wilder with Joanne Clare. |
| 0:08.2 | Still January. |
| 0:09.7 | I regret saying last time I felt like January was actually not going. |
| 0:13.8 | Is it starting to happen? |
| 0:15.2 | It's starting to happen. |
| 0:16.5 | It really is. |
| 0:17.4 | The longest month. |
| 0:18.5 | Why is that? |
| 0:19.3 | I just don't understand why time freezes in January. It's so weird. Yeah, we're in a vortex, really. I, and maybe it's because, like, in November and December, you kind of have, like, an event at the end of the month. And so then you get to January, and you're like, where's my event? And October, actually, because you have Halloween and then Thanksgiving So maybe you get to the end of December and you're like, wait a minute, where's my prize? |
| 0:39.6 | Yeah. |
| 0:40.1 | There's nothing to, there's no like activities. |
| 0:43.0 | Right, right. |
| 0:44.2 | We need an activity at the end of December to look forward to December, January. |
| 0:48.5 | We have, the kids are off. |
| 0:50.4 | They have a four-day weekend this weekend. |
| 0:52.4 | By the time you hear this, this will be long in the past, but it is MLK weekend. But I wouldn't necessarily call that like an event. I mean, you can make an event. Do you guys have any activities or like, I mean, Moab is pretty small. No, I mean. Do they have like any city celebrations? Yeah. of flags up which I can really only assume is for MLK Day because I don't know what else |
| 1:14.2 | before but just like suddenly there's a American flag on every single lamp post on Main Street. But no, there's not like a parade. And I like, you know, the rest of us have to work. Do you get that office a holiday? Yeah, we don't get, we also don't get like President's Day, |
| 1:27.9 | I don't know. But, oh well, it's really like kind of becoming spring here already, which is kind of fun to live in a biome where spring starts in like February and not May. So that's exciting. Wait, really? Yeah, spring like kind of starts picking up here in like mid-February. I'm so jealous, but we did get really excited. Like, the other day, you know, I talk about Chris Bianchi all the time. I love that I talk about our local weather, like newscast people. He posted, he has a great, he's a great TikTok follow, by the way. And he was like, today it's going to, the sun's going to set at 5 p.m. |
| 2:02.0 | It's like getting later. And you were like, yeah, well, we already have that. |
| 2:06.8 | Yeah. We have a slightly later, longer day here. This is like such, let's talk about the weather. |
| 2:14.6 | But we're in the mountain time zone, but we're like, you know, |
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