live in real time live in real time welcome back to older and wilder with joy and

Claire we have to get going right away because we got into this very important discussion about

candle warmers that i did not want to miss on the actual podcast so hi everybody here we are uh we were

talking before we hit record about candles and lind in the chat was like, hey, do you get excited about the Christmas, like, holiday products as much as you get excited about the full products? Because as we all know, I get very excited. It's like Caspar Turquile era when we had that episode where he was talking about traditions

and rituals. And I was like, wow, my ritual is going to Trader Joe's every fall when they have

the fall products. It makes me so happy. It's around my birthday, like that whole thing. Anyway,

then we got into going to the fall products versus the Christmas products because I buy all of my neighbors

and anyone that I need like just like a very inexpensive gift because you don't want to give a

gift to someone who's an acquaintance where they feel uncomfortable. They're like, wow, you spent like

$50 on this. So I always give acquaintances like work colleagues or people that are just like they

don't feel obligated to give you a gift in return. That's what I always want to kind like work colleagues or people that are just like they don't feel

obligated to give you a gift in return. That's what I always want to kind of come out with gifts

for people that are acquaintances is the Trader Joe's chocolate covered jojos with like the peppermint

pieces mixed in. It is such a good gift because they only sell it once a year. They fly off the shelves so it's not easy to find. I always go stock up. So I get these Jojo's. It's a smaller box. So again, they don't feel obligated to like give you this grand gesture in return. Everyone loves them. Anyone who I have purchased these cookies for like, tell me every year. They're like, now you got me hooked on these now I have to

go buy them every year so it's a blessing in a cruise because they are pretty addictive so

anyway then I was like then we got into the conversation this was a whole this is a whole like

not even five minutes of really deep dialogue about Trader Joe's and the jingle jangle jangle

is a great gift I just love the name jingle jingle.

Okay, so then Lindsay's like, I love the candles. I'm like, I stopped buying the candles because

they don't last very long and I get into this weird thing of like waste where the tins, of course,

like you can recycle them and reuse them but I get real

weird about candles and waste because they come in these beautiful containers what do you do with

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