Financial Advisor Success

Vanessa N. Martinez is the CEO of Expressive Wealth, an RIA based out of Chicago that oversees $135 million in assets under management for approximately 70 client households, including 10 ‘core’ ultra-high-net-worth families. What’s unique about Vanessa is how her firm goes beyond traditional estate planning to help high-net-worth clients engage in in-depth legacy planning. This approach ensures clients pass down not just their assets, but also the values and principles that helped them build their wealth. Listen in as Vanessa shares how she guides clients through a multi-meeting discovery process to clarify their estate and legacy plans and articulate the family values they want to pass on, encouraging them to document these legacies to avoid future misunderstandings. She also explains how her deep involvement in clients’ lives, along with neighborhood-based client events, helps foster strong relationships and organic referrals. Vanessa also discusses the unique role of her firm’s Chief Clinical Officer in facilitating family legacy conversations and how legacy planning allows clients to pass down not just wealth, but the emotional and intellectual values that shaped it. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/434

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2025

Cameron Passmore is the CEO of PWL Capital, a wealth management firm based out of Ottawa, Canada, that oversees just over $5 billion Canadian dollars (or approximately $3.5 billion U.S. dollars) in assets under management for 2,400 client households. What’s unique about Cameron is that after growing his firm’s revenue from $2 million to over $20 million as an independent firm over the past decade, he recognized that the next phase of growth required a different approach. By combining with a larger financial conglomerate, he positioned the firm to pursue another 10X growth opportunity in the decade ahead. Listen in as Cameron shares how his firm achieved explosive growth by serving early Shopify employees, building a content engine that has served as a key driver of inbound leads, and differentiating through a planning-first, passive investing approach that is not typical in the Canadian advice landscape. Cameron also discusses his firm's investment in an institutional-grade data lake to enhance the client experience, how their planning teams operate efficiently at scale, and why always being open to new connections has led to some of his biggest business opportunities. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/433

Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2025

Seth Scott is the founder of Heartwood Financial Planning, an advisory firm in Fresno, California that manages $100 million in assets for 850 client households. What makes Seth’s approach unique is his development of an “input deliverable” that simplifies tax planning for his ideal target client, allowing him to demonstrate value without creating time-intensive, custom reports for each individual. By offering this tool, he not only saves time, but also builds trust with prospective clients who may later seek more comprehensive financial planning services. In this episode, Seth also discusses his transition into financial planning from previous jobs in urban planning and real estate, how he grew his business by serving retiring advisors’ client books without having to contribute upfront capital, and why he became a Certified Tax Preparer to better serve his niche. Listen in to hear how he makes inroads with his target clients by helping churches set up 403(b)(9) retirement plans and how his faith has guided him through the challenges of business growth and changing careers. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/432  

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025

Nick Rodkin is the managing partner of Stoic Financial, an LPL-affiliated advisory firm based in Florida that oversees $107 million in assets under management for 70 client households. What’s unique about Nick is that after nearly 15 years as a financial advisor, he pursued a master’s degree in marriage and family therapy to enhance his ability to help couples resolve financial conflicts. This additional expertise allows him to address relationship dynamics that may hinder financial decision-making and the implementation of his financial planning recommendations. Listen in as Nick shares how he helps client couples navigate their financial relationships by using structured conversations to uncover money mindsets, encouraging them to become “budget buddies” rather than “expense enemies.” He explains how his service model allows for AUM-based financial planning, flat-fee coaching, and hourly therapy sessions, enabling him to serve a diverse client base. Nick also reflects on how his own therapy journey reshaped his approach to financial planning, shifting from a product-focused mindset to a more human-centered practice that emphasizes actionable advice and meaningful client conversations. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/431

Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2025

AJ Ayers is the co-founder of Brooklyn Fi, an RIA based in Brooklyn—but operating as a fully remote business—that oversees $370 million in assets under management for more than 400 client households. What’s unique about AJ is how she and her business partner successfully tackled the hiring, training, and operational challenges of rapidly scaling their advisory firm from the ground up to $5 million in revenue in just seven years. Their strategic approach to systems and processes allowed them to sustain growth while maintaining efficiency and service quality. Listen in as AJ shares how she and her firm rapidly scaled their advisory business, growing to 14 new clients per month while building a structured training program to onboard advisors in their specialized equity compensation niche. She explains how they leveraged LinkedIn’s Recruiter platform for proactive hiring, developed Gemifi software to streamline equity compensation planning, and implemented a three-part fee model to align revenue with client needs. AJ also reflects on delegating firm operations to reduce her own work schedule, hiring an HR professional to strengthen company culture in a remote environment, and overcoming impostor syndrome by earning niche-relevant certifications and gaining hands-on client experience. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/430

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2025

Ali Nasser is the Founder of the Wealth Integration System for Entrepreneurs (WISE), an education and coaching company based out of Houston that works with entrepreneurs facing a liquidity event and trying to figure out what’s next—as well as the financial advisors who serve them. Having built a successful advisory business by helping high-net-worth entrepreneurs align their financial goals with their entrepreneurial mindset, even when it conflicted with traditional financial planning advice, Ali's approach was so effective that he eventually sold his advisory firm to focus exclusively on coaching and consulting services for entrepreneurs. Listen in as he explains how he helps entrepreneurs manage concentration risk, overcome reluctance to invest outside their business, and address lingering financial scarcity mindsets despite their significant wealth. You'll hear about his journey from advisory firm owner to full-time coach, the challenges of ensuring a team delivers a consistent, high-level client experience, and why he ultimately decided to focus on empowering business owners and the advisors who serve them. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/429

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2025

Lorie Jones is the Wealth Manager at Fearless Financial Advisors, a DBA of hybrid advisory firm Fidelis Wealth Advisors based out of Colorado, where she oversees $30 million in assets under management for 88 households. What sets Lorie apart is how she maximized the capabilities of Salesforce CRM—typically used by larger firms due to its advanced features and higher cost—to streamline processes and workflows while working at a mid-sized advisory firm without the need for costly Salesforce developers, demonstrating how a well-optimized CRM can enhance efficiency across the firm. Listen in as Lorie shares how she leverages Salesforce’s "clicks not code" functionality to create custom automations—such as her innovative "magic buttons"—that streamline firm operations, from client onboarding to money movements. She also discusses her journey from an administrative role to firm partner, her transition into full-time advising to focus on serving high-net-worth women, and how she overcame the challenges of launching her own practice. Lorie also reflects on balancing earning her CFP and MBA while raising five children, how starting a podcast helped her gain confidence in prospecting, and why learning from mentors empowered her to take bold career risks. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/428

Transcribed - Published: 11 March 2025

Sten Morgan is the owner of Legacy Investment Planning, a hybrid advisory firm based in Franklin, Tennessee, that oversees $220 million in assets under management for 90 client households. Today Sten joins the show to share how he made the difficult decision to turn over his entire original team and rebuild with a new director of operations to create a stronger foundation for future growth. He explains how he identified cultural and operational misalignments, navigated tough conversations with employees, and structured his hiring process to ensure the right people joined his firm.  Listen in as Sten walks us through his firm’s five-step hiring process, why he insists on interviewing at least 4-6 candidates before making an offer, and the strategies he uses to work effectively with recruiting firms. He also shares why he's focusing on operational efficiency before engaging in a period of growth, how he proactively hires for roles before the need becomes urgent, and his structured approach to iterating on business ideas. If you're looking for insights on building the right team for long-term success, this episode is for you.  For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/427 

Transcribed - Published: 4 March 2025

Jennifer des Groseilliers is the CEO of The Mather Group, an RIA based in Chicago, Illinois, that oversees $15 billion in combined assets under management and advisement for approximately 4,400 client households. Today Jennifer shares how her firm has designed an program of broad-based equity awards across the firm to align the interests of employees with the firm’s long-term client service and growth goals.  In this episode, Jennifer breaks down how her firm sets performance targets and ensures that employee incentives are tied to the firm’s enterprise value. We also discuss how The Mather Group streamlines operations through goal-setting systems like SMART goals and HR tracking tools, separates sales and advisory roles to optimize client acquisition and service, and fosters leadership development through emotional intelligence. Listen in to learn how strategic equity grants can drive business success while empowering employees.  For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/426 

Transcribed - Published: 25 February 2025

Sebastian Guerra is the President of Guerra Wealth Advisors, a hybrid advisory firm based in Miami with nearly $15M of revenue and almost 60 team members, supporting over 1,700 client households. What's unique about Sebastian is how his firm has implemented a quality control system where a team member follows up with clients right after their advisor meetings to gather feedback and ensure high service standards. This approach not only improves the client experience, but also encourages referrals, online reviews, and social media engagement by prompting clients to act immediately after providing positive feedback. Listen in as Sebastian discusses how the firm attracts and consolidates assets from new and existing clients—onboarding nearly 480 households in a single year—with educational events and a streamlined process enabling advisors to handle up to 35 weekly meetings. He also highlights how his firm has benefited from using the Entrepreneurial Operating System amidst its rapid growth, how his firm leverages an in-house recruiter to find top talent, and how he balances his business commitments with his evolving priorities as a new husband and father. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/425

Transcribed - Published: 18 February 2025

David Grau Jr. is the president of Succession Resource Group, an advisory consulting and valuation business based out of Oregon that serves independent financial advisors with RIAs and broker-dealers. What sets David apart is his two decades of experience supporting financial advisory firms, which has allowed him to identify best practices for founders and successors navigating increasingly complex internal succession plans. This is especially valuable as founders face growing challenges due to frequent, high-valuation offers from private equity-backed acquirers. Listen in as David shares best practices for preparing firms for internal succession, including establishing defined career tracks, organizing business metrics, and breaking ownership transitions into manageable tranches to ease financial commitments for successors. He discusses why internal successions remain viable—despite the allure of high valuations from private equity-backed buyers—highlighting how these deals often include challenging growth targets and less favorable terms hidden in the fine print. David also explains how preparing for internal succession can actually boost external valuation and why founders may find greater satisfaction in leaving a lasting legacy through their firm by transitioning it to internal successors. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/424

Transcribed - Published: 11 February 2025

Cristina Livadary is the CEO of Mana Financial Life Design, an RIA based in Los Angeles (that works virtually with clients nationwide) overseeing approximately $70 million in assets under management for 119 client households. Cristina's firm helps “sandwich generation” clients by crafting financial plans that address their personal needs and goals while also offering optional add-on planning engagements to tackle the financial challenges of their aging parents, who may require support in the future. This dual-focus approach ensures comprehensive support for clients navigating intergenerational financial responsibilities. Listen in as Cristina shares how her personal experience navigating the challenges of caring for aging parents and young children inspired her to focus on serving this niche. She also discusses how she transitioned her firm to a complexity-based fee structure, how she conducts 20-minute “fit” meetings to determine whether prospective clients will be a good fit for her firm’s services and fee model, and the lessons she’s learned about creating defined roles for new hires in order to build a cohesive team. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/423

Transcribed - Published: 4 February 2025

Kay Lynn Mayhue is the President of Merit Financial Advisors, a hybrid advisory firm based out of Georgia that oversees approximately $13 billion in assets under management for 26,000 households. What’s unique about Kay Lynn is how she cultivated her advisory, management, and leadership skills to progress to become president of a national RIA enterprise. In her role, she now spearheads the firm’s proactive mergers and acquisitions strategy. Listen in as Kay Lynn shares her journey from client-facing advisor to firm leader, including the pivotal lessons she learned about leadership after her team once threatened to quit due to her early management style. She also discusses her approach to mergers and acquisitions, how her firm uses personality assessments to strengthen hiring and client relationships, and her firm’s “organic growth tracks” for advisors. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/422

Transcribed - Published: 28 January 2025

Daniel Friedman is the CEO of WMGNA, a hybrid advisory firm based out of Connecticut that oversees approximately $270 million in assets under management for 200 client households. What’s unique about Daniel is how his firm offers “in-house” tax return preparation as part of its one-stop-shop service, while outsourcing the actual preparation work to trusted CPAs paid from his firm’s revenue. This allows Daniel’s team to focus on delivering tax planning analyses and strategies, which are central to the firm’s value proposition for clients. Listen in as Daniel discusses how his firm combines a subscription-based planning fee with an AUM charge on investments it manages and how it has implemented a money-back guarantee with very few clients taking them up on the offer. Daniel also explains how his firm embraces the concept of "Restylement" to help clients redefine their next life chapter, the key role of a “director of first impressions” in fostering client relationships, and how persistence and exceptional service have fueled his firm’s long-term growth and success. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/421

Transcribed - Published: 21 January 2025

Michelle Underwood Gass is the Founding Principal of Paradigm Advisors, an RIA based out of Dallas that oversees approximately $110 million in assets under management for 80 client households. What’s unique about Michelle is how she developed a structured meeting process to guide new clients through her in-depth planning system, ensuring a standardized experience while retaining the flexibility to customize each client’s financial plan, prioritizing their unique needs and goals. Listen in as Michelle shares her 5-part planning process, beginning with a “Get to Know You” meeting that incorporates Life Planning exercises to uncover client priorities and ensure a mutual fit, followed by a tech-enabled “Uncluttering” process to streamline document collection and onboarding. She explains how her “Intrinsic Discovery” and “Discovering Opportunities” meetings prioritize key planning areas, avoiding overwhelm for busy working-age clients, while tools like eMoney’s Decision Center and Hubly workflow management software support efficient plan implementation. Michelle also discusses her combined flat planning and AUM-based fee structure that allows her to serve high-earning professionals and hedge fund veterans, and how launching her financial planning business brought her a renewed sense of purpose after stepping away from managing a hedge fund. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/420

Transcribed - Published: 14 January 2025

Peter Krull is the Director of Sustainable Investing of Earth Equity Advisors, an RIA based out of North Carolina that oversees approximately $200 million in assets under management for 250 client households. What sets Pete apart is his ability to grow his firm by helping clients align their portfolios with their personal values, turning investments into a reflection of the businesses they want to support. He achieves this while maintaining well-diversified, market-aligned portfolios that are prudently allocated to sound businesses. Listen in as Pete shares how his sustainable investing approach focuses on identifying sectors and companies poised for future success, differentiating it from socially responsible and ESG investing by taking a bottom-up, forward-looking perspective. He explains how he uses a combination of industry insights, quantitative metrics, and third-party evaluations to construct client portfolios with a mix of equities and fixed-income investments that align with sustainability criteria while meeting clients' risk tolerances. Pete also discusses how serving a well-defined niche has expanded his business opportunities, enabling him to attract clients who want their investments to support the future they envision, and how merging with a larger firm has allowed him to scale his offerings and reach even more like-minded investors. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/419

Transcribed - Published: 7 January 2025

Stacey McKinnon is the chief operating officer of Morton Wealth, an RIA based out of California that oversees approximately $3 billion in assets under management for 1,300 client households. Stacey has spearheaded a leadership training program at Morton Wealth to support middle managers, many of whom transitioned from hands-on roles to managerial positions, equipping them with essential communication and management skills. This initiative was crucial as the firm's workforce doubled from 30 to 60 employees over four years, surpassing the capacity of senior leadership to manage a growing team. Listen in as Stacey shares how she tackled common managerial challenges at Morton Wealth by identifying problematic archetypes and integrating the Admired Leadership Program to elevate managerial skills across the board. She discusses the firm's shift from a rigid to a flexible client meeting schedule—facilitated by WorkBoard's OKR tools—to better accommodate the dynamic work environment and enhance client interaction. Stacey also reflects on personal productivity strategies and the invaluable leadership insights gained from U.S. Women's National Soccer Team Head Coach Emma Hayes, emphasizing the importance of nurturing a self-sustaining team that can thrive even in her absence. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/418

Transcribed - Published: 31 December 2024

Paul G McManus is the CEO of More Clients More Fun, a marketing company that helps financial advisors conceptualize and publish their own book in a consolidated 6-week process. Paul advises financial advisors to write books not for potential royalties, but rather to establish their authority, differentiate themselves from competitors, and enhance client engagement. In this episode, he talks about how even a short book can achieve these goals, as well as how advisors can use books they've written to foster initial trust with prospects. Listen in as Paul shares how he assists advisors in creating concise books that can be read quickly—enhancing the probability of completion—and using Amazon's self-publishing platform for cost efficiency and update flexibility benefits. You'll learn about his six-week book production process, what he has seen advisors do to promote their books successfully, how a book can be used to grow marketing lists, and more. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/417

Transcribed - Published: 24 December 2024

Fran Toler is the CEO of Toler Financial Group, a DBA firm under the RIA Rossby Financial, that oversees nearly $200 million in assets under management for 280 households. Fran discusses how she transitioned from an independent broker-dealer model to a 'supported independence' corporate RIA platform to reduce her compliance burdens while paying lower platform fees by partnering with a service provider that doesn't charge for functions her staff already performs. This strategic move enables her to have greater autonomy without the full list of compliance responsibilities associated with complete independence. Listen in as Fran shares how her firm's public stance on progressive values has led to client and AUM growth by attracting clients and staff who share these ideals, why she offers new hires a stable base salary to ensure she includes talented candidates who might not have the financial backing to succeed in an 'eat what you kill' environment, and how she is approaching succession planning as she contemplates her eventual retirement. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/416

Transcribed - Published: 17 December 2024

Erika Wood is the Director of Wealth Management of VisionPoint Advisory Group, a hybrid advisory firm based in Dallas that oversees approximately $3 billion in assets under advisement for both 780 client households and retirement plans. Erika’s firm stands out for its use of centralized financial planning and service teams, along with a ticketing workflow system, to streamline a firm-wide planning process, efficiently serving a private wealth client base with $600M in assets under management. Listen in as Erika shares how her firm streamlines client meetings and task completion, ensuring efficiency and accuracy across all client interactions. She discusses her firm's approach to client segmentation and fee-setting based on a data-centric analysis of service costs, adding a profitability buffer to maintain a sustainable business model. Erika also talks about how her firm builds client loyalty, as well as the importance of advisors finding their niche in the financial planning field to maximize their unique strengths. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/415

Transcribed - Published: 10 December 2024

Eric Franklin is the Managing Partner of Prospero Wealth, an RIA based out of Seattle that oversees $52 million in assets under management for 80 households. Eric uniquely grew his assets under management to $50 million in just three years by targeting employees at big tech firms and adapting his planning process into smaller, manageable segments. This approach, which spreads out financial planning over time, proved more valuable for his busy clients, preventing them from feeling overwhelmed. Listen in as Eric shares how he enhances client engagement by focusing on a few planning priorities at a time and starting engagements with goal-setting exercises to clarify and prioritize their objectives. He details his targeted marketing strategy toward tech employees, his own transition from tech to financial planning, and the growth of his firm through hiring like-minded advisors from the tech industry. You'll hear how he's leveraging technology tools for efficient communication, why he recommends industry conferences for career changers to learn best practices before launching their financial planning careers, and more. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/414

Transcribed - Published: 3 December 2024

Kevin Leahy is the CEO of Connecticut Wealth Management, an RIA based out of Connecticut that oversees approximately $4 billion in assets under management for 1,100 households. Kevin's firm stands out for its systematized training program designed to onboard and develop young talent straight out of college, effectively maintaining a robust advisory talent pipeline. This approach has supported the firm through organic growth and strategic acquisitions, ensuring a smooth transition of clients from retiring advisors to new ones, all while keeping a low client-to-advisor ratio of 35-to-1. Listen in as Kevin shares how his firm's structured new hire training program starts with comprehensive initial training on systems and financial planning processes, followed by a focus on enhancing client communication skills. He also discusses sourcing new talent from a vetted internship program and how hiring in cohorts optimizes learning and integration. You'll also learn about the interview process Kevin's firm uses with veteran advisors, how his firm is able to maintain its core values as it grows, and more.  For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/413

Transcribed - Published: 26 November 2024

Anjali Jariwala is the Founder of FIT Advisors, a California-based RIA that operates virtually nationwide, managing $65 million in assets for 45 client households. Over the past six years, Anjali has tripled her annual revenue from $250,000 to $750,000 while only adding a net of 10 client households by focusing on physicians with complex tax needs and small business owners with revenues of $5M-$20M. She achieved this growth by enhancing her service offerings with advanced financial planning and CFO services, while raising her fees to reflect the increased value. Listen in as Anjali shares how she transitioned from paid ads to creating niche-specific blog and podcast content that continues to attract high-quality prospects long after she paused active content creation to support her clients and manage personal stress during the early days of the COVID pandemic. She discusses her strategic approach to growing her revenue by raising her minimum annual retainer fee while keeping her client base compact, and how offering tailored services like advanced tax planning and CFO-style business planning justifies these fees for her clients. Anjali also reflects on her decision to limit her client count to enhance service quality, her use of an outsourced Chief Investment Officer to conduct investment research and cue up trades for her to execute, and how she defines success now that she has built a financially thriving practice. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/412

Transcribed - Published: 19 November 2024

Larry Kriesmer is the Chairman of Measured Risk Portfolios, an RIA based out of San Diego that oversees $350 million in assets under management for a combination of internal retail clients and external financial advisor clients. What's unique about Larry, though, is how he is able to get clients comfortable with taking equity market risk using an approach that actually puts 85% or more of client funds in Treasuries (effectively creating a floor on potential losses) while investing the rest into options on equity indexes to offer potential upside that still can approximate the returns of a conservative, moderate, or even aggressive balanced portfolio that might have otherwise simply allocated directly to the S&P 500.  Listen in as Larry shares how he implements this strategy and introduces its potential benefits and risks to clients, the tax benefits available when using options, the importance of careful management when using options due to potentially rapid pricing changes, and his commitment to reinvesting in his firm to build a lasting business. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/411

Transcribed - Published: 12 November 2024

Emily Biehler is the co-founder of TrailWise Financial Partners, an RIA based out of Colorado that oversees approximately $80 million in assets under management for 200 client households. What's unique about Emily, though, is how her firm ensures every client can be served profitably through a combination of a complexity-based minimum fee arrangement, coupleed with a strucutred data gathering, plan delivery, and client communication processes that encourage client accountability and follow-through on action items recommended by their advisor severy client really sees the value they receive for the fees they are paying.  Listen in as Emily discusses the custom workbook she uses that asks clients to explore their goals and values, how she uses asynchronous video messages to efficiently communicate with clients between meetings, and why she decided to start her own firm with a focus on accountability and client-centered comprehensive planning following a failed succession at her prevoius firm. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/410

Transcribed - Published: 5 November 2024

Travis Hornsby is the founder of Student Loan Planner, an RIA and student loan consulting company based out of North Carolina that serves nearly 1,400 households with ongoing financial planning and has consulted with over 15,000 clients on student loan debt. Travis quickly expanded his financial planning client base to 1,400 in just over a year by leveraging his extensive pool of student loan consulting clients, which had significantly grown over the past decade. Listen in as Travis shares how he carved out a niche in student loan planning, which laid the groundwork for transitioning into comprehensive financial planning. He discusses his strategic approach to pricing and client service that spurred rapid business growth, and delves into the personal and professional transformations that prompted his move to establish an RIA. Travis also reflects on how his personal journey through FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement influenced his business decisions, allowing him to seize growth opportunities that aligned with his values and effectively broaden his service offerings. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/409

Transcribed - Published: 29 October 2024

Maddi Keegan is a financial advisor and the Director of Operations at Frazier Financial Advisors, an RIA based out of Ohio that oversees $860 million in assets under management for 650 client households. After building a successful solo advisory firm, Maddi merged her business with Frazier Financial Advisors, where she secured a stake and stepped into both advisory and operational roles to help scale the business. Listen in as Maddi shares how her strategic merger with Frazier Financial Advisors allowed her to expand her impact, blending her expertise with the firm's resources to enhance client services. She details her journey from a solo practitioner to a key player in a larger firm, including her initial investment in SEO that significantly boosted her client base, and her decision-making process that led to successfully transitioning her clients to the new firm. Maddi also discusses the broader benefits of networking and her proactive role in community leadership, which opened doors to opportunities that shaped her career trajectory. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/408

Transcribed - Published: 22 October 2024

Mark Asaro is the Chief Investment Officer of Noble Wealth Management, an RIA based out of Colorado that oversees $320 million in assets under management for 160 households. Mark stands out with his liability-driven investing approach, which builds retirement portfolios focused on managing sequence of return risk, leveraging the use of closed-end bond funds to generate income to cover client expenses during the critical early retirement years. Listen in as Mark shares how Liability-Driven Investing (LDI) matches retirement portfolios to client spending needs, securing early retirement finances through strategically allocated fixed income to generate income and equity to manage inflation risk. He dives into his tactical approach to rebalancing portfolios, using market conditions to optimize asset allocations between equities and bonds. Mark also reflects on his firm's strategic shift during the 2022 market downturn, when it capitalized on high bond yields, why he believes investment management isn't a commodity, and how the LDI approach ultimately supports clients' long-term financial stability and peace of mind. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/407

Transcribed - Published: 15 October 2024

Michael Kramer is the Manager of Natural Investments, an RIA based out of San Francisco that has offices across the country and oversees $1.9 billion in assets under management for 1,300 households. Michael's firm uniquely employed a perpetual purpose trust structure for its internal succession plan, which allowed the founding partners to monetize their ownership without burdening new advisors with debt. This approach also fostered a more equitable leadership structure, not solely based on share ownership. Listen in as Michael talks about the firm's governance by "trust stewards" and the unique role of a "trust enforcer" to ensure accountability as well as why the firm chose this model over traditional ESOP or cooperative structures. Michael also reflects on building his practice from the ground up, leveraging public speaking to attract like-minded clients, and embracing his role as a "seed planter" to foster a business that embodies his values and sustains beyond his tenure. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/406

Transcribed - Published: 8 October 2024

Gaetano Sacco is a partner and senior financial advisor at Fountainhead Advisors, an RIA based out of New Jersey that oversees approximately $900 million in assets under management for 1,000 households. Gaetano transformed his early career challenge of perceived inexperience into a distinct advantage, highlighting his youthfulness to reassure retirees that he can be their dedicated financial advisor for the long haul. Since breaking away from the insurance world, he has impressively grown his practice to $75 million in AUM in just five years, capitalizing on his long-term commitment to clients as a major selling point. Listen in as Gaetano shares how his early experiences in insurance sales and, ironically, achieving "Financial Planner of the Year" led him to transition from insurance to the RIA channel, driven by a desire for deeper client relationships and personal life changes like marriage and fatherhood that enhanced his ability to connect with clients. He also discusses how leveraging his age as an asset has helped grow his practice through proactive client communication during the COVID-19 downturn and by hosting in-person client appreciation events to build loyalty and attract new clients. You'll learn the pivotal role of joining an advisor study group in Gaetano's professional development, his decision to reject a job offer due to poor company culture, and how his commitment to a client-centric, planning-focused career provides daily motivation while maintaining work-life balance. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/405

Transcribed - Published: 1 October 2024

Ann Garcia is a partner of Independent Progressive Advisors, an RIA based out of Portland that oversees approximately $115 million in assets under management for 120 clients. Ann has distinguished herself by developing a nationally recognized expertise in college financial planning, a specialty that has grown alongside her advisory business, now focusing on mid-career professionals who balance saving for their children's college education with their own retirement planning. This dual focus reflects the evolving needs of her clientele as they navigate significant financial milestones. Listen in as Ann shares how she developed her reputation as a college planning expert by transforming client queries into a specialized blog that gained national attention, eventually leading to the publication of a book on college planning and the creation of an online course. She also discusses how her expertise has attracted mid-career professionals, to the point where her firm is nearing capacity in its current form, how purchasing a retiring advisor’s practice laid the groundwork for the firm she desired, and how she refined her sales skills early on by taking meetings with all prospects who approached her, even if they were not a good fit for her firm. Ann also emphasizes the importance of initiating early discussions on college affordability within families and describes her decision to leave a prominent firm to create one that aligns with her values, allowing her to serve clients she truly understands and appreciates. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/404

Transcribed - Published: 24 September 2024

Eric Stein is a Partner at East Bay Investment Solutions, a firm that offers fractional Chief Investment Officer services, supporting over $6 billion in assets under advisement across 26 advisory firm clients. In this episode, we discuss how Eric leverages his extensive investment expertise not by managing portfolios for individual clients as a traditional financial advisor, but rather by embracing his role as an 'investment nerd' serving as a fractional Chief Investment Officer, supporting multiple advisory firms and their clients. Listen in as Eric shares how his fractional Chief Investment Officer service operates, providing investment research, portfolio design, and market commentary while leaving portfolio implementation up to the advisor themselves. He also discusses his winding career path, from commercial banking to Goldman Sachs Asset Management and as a CIO for a national RIA, to his current role, which he found after a careful 'dating' process with his business partner to ensure their visions aligned. Eric also reflects on his experiences across large national businesses and smaller firms, emphasizing the importance of role exploration, effective management practices, and learning from both successes and failures to navigate challenges that arise. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/403

Transcribed - Published: 17 September 2024

John Mason is the President of Mason & Associates, an RIA based out of Virginia that oversees $370 million in assets under management for approximately 390 client households. What's unique about John, though, is how joining a firm that served the niche of Federal government employees allowed him to quickly accelerate his own learning curve and demonstrate his expertise early in his career as a 20-something—ultimately enabling him to more quickly begin bringing in his own clients. Listen in as John shares how his firm’s specialization in serving Federal employees allows it to operate efficiently and develop deep relationships with clients, and how his firm generates client leads through a podcast focusing on the issues facing its ideal target client. He also discusses his firm's transition from a broker-dealer to the RIA model, which boosted its per-client revenue while bringing down all-in costs for clients, how he managed the delicate process of transitioning unprofitable clients to more suitable advisors, why he thinks fee-only advisors sometimes underrate the importance of insurance planning, and more. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/402

Transcribed - Published: 10 September 2024

Zack Hubbard is the Director of Financial Planning and Participant Engagement of Greenspring Advisors, an RIA based out of Maryland that manages $2 billion of private wealth assets under management for 1,300 client households and advises on an additional $5 billion in retirement plan assets. Zack and his firm have developed a financial wellness offering that profitably delivers both self-serve technology and direct one-on-one financial advice to employees of businesses using their fiduciary 401(k) services. This approach not only supports plan participants, but also generates a steady stream of referrals for his firm’s private wealth services. Listen in as Zack shares how his firm uses a three-tiered approach to fiduciary financial wellness for 401(k) plan participants, comprising of education, one-on-one advice, and implementation support, how his firm develops new advisors by allowing them to have many 'at bats' with retirement plan participants, and how he made the decision to shift from client-facing roles to his current position as a manager.  For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/401 

Transcribed - Published: 3 September 2024

Mark Tibergien is the former CEO of Pershing Advisor Solutions, a former Principal with Moss Adams Consulting, and a longtime practice management consultant and thought leader in the financial advisory industry. Over his 50-year career in financial services, Mark has witnessed the evolution of the financial advice industry and has actively defined best practices for advisory firms aiming to scale up and build enduring businesses. His extensive experience has enabled him to measure and track the key strategies that help firms not just grow in size, but also enhance their scalability and operational efficiency. In this episode, Mark shares his insights on the crucial distinction between growing in size and truly scaling an advisory firm, emphasizing that genuine scale is achieved when revenue increases outpace expenses. He also discusses the ongoing industry consolidation and outlines the different types of firms looking to acquire RIAs—financial, tactical, and strategic buyers—highlighting how smaller firms can still thrive by focusing on local excellence or specific client demographics. Listen in to learn about the importance of proactive succession planning and defining personal measures of success, which influence both strategic decisions and the broader impact of the advisory business on the community and the industry. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/400

Transcribed - Published: 27 August 2024

Kelli Kiemle is the Managing Director of Growth and Client Experience of Halbert Hargrove, an RIA based out of California that oversees $3.1 billion in assets under management for 75 households. Kelli uniquely spearheads initiatives at Halbert Hargrove to uphold the firm’s four core values and foster a strong corporate culture, a critical task as the company expands to 50 employees across 10 offices in the western United States. This growth makes even their in-person offices effectively 'remote' and 'virtual' relative to the leadership at the firm's main headquarters. Listen in as Kelli shares how she has implemented effective communication and relationship-building programs at Halbert Hargrove, including biannual in-person meetings and weekly all-hands sessions to enhance accountability and integrate new hires through a formal two-year mentorship program. She discusses initiatives that reinforce the firm’s core values—like sharing 'Gladiator Stories' and 'Goofs That Give Us Guidance'—and aligns employee benefits with these values by supporting education, charitable contributions, and family care, while also managing a unique vacation policy to prevent burnout. Additionally, Kelli explains her strategic role in growing the firm’s AUM past $3 billion, utilizing external PR and SEO, and integrating sales coaching to enhance client acquisition efforts without compromising the firm’s fiduciary commitments. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/399

Transcribed - Published: 20 August 2024

Eric Wulff is the CEO of Marcum Wealth, an RIA based out of Cleveland that oversees $2.5 billion in assets under management for approximately 2,700 households. Eric has uniquely developed Marcum Wealth into a multi-billion-dollar firm under the umbrella of a national accounting firm, largely by fostering mutually beneficial relationships with internal CPAs to secure referrals of their accounting clients to his financial planning business. This strategy has effectively integrated and leveraged the firm's existing services to expand its client base and enhance its financial planning division. Listen in as Eric shares his strategic approach to generating internal referrals at his firm, using a "give to get" philosophy with CPAs to ensure his advisors are top of mind for financial planning referrals, especially through exit planning services that help maintain CPA-client relationships beyond traditional business needs. He also explains how his firm standardizes financial planning across national offices through a centralized team, the effectiveness of presenting detailed financial plans to prospects before they commit, and his targeted acquisition strategy focusing on growth-minded mid-career advisors. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/398 Headers: What Marcum Wealth Looks Like Today [6:35] Using A Team-Based Approach To Building Financial Plans [16:10] Linking Marcum Wealth's Planning Process To Its Asset Allocation Frameworks [28:44]  Converting Prospects Into Clients Through The Plan Delivery Process [33:06] How Marcum Wealth Generates Referrals From Its Attached CPA Firm [46:10] Dividing Advisory Teams By Geography And Client Segments [57:43] Marcum Wealth's Strategic Approach To Acquisitions [1:04:21] What Surprised Eric The Most Building An Advisory Business [1:15:40] The Low Point On Eric's Journey [1:17:34] What Eric Would Tell His Younger Self [1:22:58] Eric's Advice For Younger Advisors [1:24:15] What Success Means To Eric [1:27:25] The following contains the thoughts and opinions of Eric Wulff, CEO, of Marcum Wealth, LLC. Marcum Wealth is an investment adviser registered with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. Registration does not imply a certain level of skill or training. The statements herein are intended as brand and general educational and informational content only, and no viewer should construe any statements as an offer of Marcum Wealth’s advisory services. Viewers are encouraged to discuss the content of this broadcast with, and direct any questions to, the financial professional of their choosing.    

Transcribed - Published: 13 August 2024

Jaime Benedetti is the Managing Principal of Benedetti, Gucer, and Associates and BEAM Wealth Advisors, hybrid advisory firms based out of Georgia and Louisiana that oversee a total of $1.2-billion in assets under management for approximately 900 households. Jaime's firm has uniquely expanded to over $1 billion in AUM over the last 20 years, largely through six strategic acquisitions of mixed fee-and-commission practices from retiring local advisors, which he successfully converted into ongoing, recurring revenue financial planning clients - an approach that has not only fueled growth but also streamlined the firm’s revenue model into a more predictable and sustainable framework. Listen in as Jaime shares how he has skillfully managed the acquisition of firms with assets ranging from under $10 million to nearly $500 million, evolving from using personal funding sources to securing bank-financed loans that cover the full purchase price. He explains his strategic approach to converting acquired firms from commission-based to fee-based models, details his method for identifying potential acquisition targets through a combination of recruiters, marketplaces, and networking, and shares the importance of taking time to integrate new acquisitions thoroughly, which has not only retained clients but also attracted sellers who prioritize the welfare of their clients post-acquisition. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/397

Transcribed - Published: 6 August 2024

Michelle Klisanich is a Wealth Advisor for Financially Wise Divorce, a hybrid advisory firm based out of Minnesota that oversees $87-million in assets under management for 91 households. Michelle stands out by effectively applying insights gained from multiple business coaches throughout her career, enabling her to precisely target and market to her desired clientele—women undergoing divorce. This focus allows her to transition these women into long-term advisory clients, with whom she builds deep, enduring relationships. Listen in as Michelle shares how she developed a structured process to guide clients through divorce, linking them with pre-vetted professionals and providing a roadmap for life post-divorce, while ensuring they are interested in ongoing advisory relationships. She discusses leveraging her early career challenges and business coaching to specialize in divorce planning, using online networking to build influential connections and streamline her client base from 350 to 90 focused, profitable relationships. Michelle also reflects on how her personal divorce experience inspired her to help similar women, overcoming "impostor syndrome" by gaining confidence through small wins and recommending that newer advisors learn from experienced colleagues to navigate early career challenges. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/396

Transcribed - Published: 30 July 2024

Dustin Mangone is the Director of Investment Advisor Services of PPL Loan, a firm based out of Texas that facilitates  conventional bank loans to financial advisors. Dustin's firm uniquely enables financial advisors to access bank lending—a traditionally difficult source of debt capital in the advisory industry—for financing various transactions, including RIA and independent broker-dealer acquisitions, internal succession plans, and other growth initiatives. This approach provides vital support for advisors looking to expand or transition their businesses. Listen in as Dustin shares how his firm partners with banks to provide loans to financial advisors purchasing advisory firms, enabling sellers to receive the purchase price upfront and increasing loan amounts as advisor repayment success grows. He discusses the key financial metrics used to determine loan amounts for mergers and acquisitions, such as the buyer’s capitalization and the selling firm’s recurring revenue, and explains how these loans support both full purchases and partial buy-ins during internal firm successions. Dustin also touches on current trends in advisory firm valuations, the differences between conventional bank loans and Small Business Administration loans, and the continued robust financing opportunities for advisory firm transactions, underscoring the inherent stability of these businesses due to their long-term client relationships. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/395

Published: 23 July 2024

Christi Van Rite is the Founder of White River Consultants, a firm that provides administrative family office services to 17 ultra-high-net-worth households. Christi, whose firm is on track to generate nearly $1.5M in revenue this year, offers her insights into the complexities of managing extensive personal finances. You'll learn about the four primary pillars of Christi's services—personal bookkeeping, payroll for household employees, property management, and information and document management—and how each of these plays a role in maintaining financial order and security. Join us as we delve into Christi's journey from a traditional financial advisor to a leader in administrative family office services. You'll hear about her strategies for managing the financial needs of complex client households, the importance of using a client-owned tech stack for flexibility, and the role of robust referral pipelines in growing her business. Christi also shares her approach to curating, onboarding, and training specialized team members, managing risks associated with serving high-dollar families, and why she believes this niche is a fulfilling career path for financial advisors. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/394 

Transcribed - Published: 16 July 2024

Alex Lewis is the owner of Blackbridge Financial, a hybrid advisory firm based out of South Carolina that oversees approximately $330 million in assets under management for 415 households. At just 29 years old, Alex boldly acquired his firm through a multi-million-dollar loan, stepping in as the successor to the founder. Over the past four years, he has transformed the business by overhauling the staff, technology, and service structure—nearly doubling the firm’s AUM in the process. Listen in as Alex shares how he gained trust and smoothly transitioned into ownership by increasing his client-facing roles and negotiating a seller-financed purchase, setting the stage for financial challenges that included managing a hefty initial loan payment. You'll learn how his firm categorizes clients into five service tiers, tailors experiences with personal touches like preferred beverages, and expands the team to uphold a high-touch service model, ensuring each advisor manages no more than 150 clients. We also discuss Alex’s career shift from public accounting to financial planning, his strategic fee adjustments that reinforced client trust, and his use of influential business strategies from books to continuously refine and grow the firm he envisioned. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/393

Transcribed - Published: 9 July 2024

Kristopher Heck is a Founding Partner of Tanager Wealth Management, an RIA based out of London that oversees approximately $1.1 billion in assets under management for 630 households. Kristopher's firm stands out by scaling to over a billion dollars in AUM, specializing in serving clients with financial and personal ties to both the United States and the United Kingdom, a niche lacking a standard playbook. This unique focus on complex transatlantic tax, estate, and planning issues has allowed them to develop a highly differentiated expertise in the marketplace over the past decade. Listen in as Kristopher shares his journey of founding Tanager Wealth, drawing on his personal experiences as a US expatriate to specialize in cross-border US-UK financial planning. He explains how his firm fosters a learning environment through internal blogs, videos, and lunch-and-learns, as well as how establishing early partnerships with other expatriate-focused professionals has cultivated a robust referral network. We also discuss the structure of separate advisory and planning teams that enhance career development and knowledge sharing within the firm, highlighting the importance of combining the right people and technology to effectively scale and succeed in the financial advisory landscape. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/392

Transcribed - Published: 2 July 2024

Christopher Jones is the Founder of Sparrow Wealth Management, an RIA based out of Orlando that oversees approximately $110 million in assets under management for 69 households. Chris has distinguished himself by building a highly efficient solo practice that operates under 25 hours per week, enabling him to spend more time with his family. He achieved this by concentrating solely on the most crucial financial planning tasks for his clients—and outsourcing or eliminating all other activities. Listen in as Chris shares how he streamlines his financial planning process by collaboratively working through plans during annual meetings, focusing on clients’ goals instead of detailed cash flow analyses, and managing cash requests through a single annual distribution. He explains his efficiency improvements through a curated tech stack of specialized AdvisorTech products and the strategic decision to manually update client balances, a move away from excessive customization that has significantly grown his AUM. We also discuss how transitioning to a remote practice has allowed Chris to live closer to family, how he generates referrals from well-connected clients, and his approach to managing perfectionism by outsourcing tasks to alleviate time constraints and reduce anxiety. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/391

Transcribed - Published: 25 June 2024

Brent Carnduff is the Founder of Advisor Rankings, a marketing firm based out of Idaho that specializes in search engine optimization for financial advisors. Brent's firm uniquely assists advisors by enhancing their organic SEO through targeted content creation, designed to attract prospects with specific planning needs, and also boosts advisors' local SEO, ensuring top placement in Google rankings when consumers search for nearby financial advisors. Listen in as Brent shares how he guides advisors to enhance their local SEO by starting with a fully optimized Google Business Profile and encouraging systematic client reviews to improve search rankings and increase website traffic. We also discuss strategies for boosting organic SEO, the importance of serving a specific niche for better Google rankings, the different timelines for seeing results with local versus organic SEO, and how hiring a coach has transformed Brent's business practices, enabling him to focus on delivering top-tier SEO advice. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/390

Published: 18 June 2024

Mark Berg is the Founder of Timothy Financial Counsel, an RIA based out of Illinois that's on track to generate $5 million in annual revenue this year serving 800 households. Mark's firm stands out for its rapid growth, scaling from $1.8 million to $5 million in revenue within just six years while maintaining a 25% profit margin, achieved entirely through an hourly fee model. Listen in as Mark shares how he structured his firm to succeed with an hourly fee model, his strategic implementation of time-tracking software for efficient billing and capacity management, and how he uses a client waitlist to handle increasing demand. We also discuss Mark’s innovative approach to scaling the firm by hiring a president without a financial planning background, as well as why he sees the hourly fee model as a vast opportunity for reaching a broader client base. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/389

Transcribed - Published: 11 June 2024

Freeman Linde is the cofounder of La Crosse Financial Planning, an RIA based out of Wisconsin that oversees nearly $50 million in assets under management for 73 clients. Despite industry norms suggesting the need for tens of millions in assets to go independent, Freeman launched his own RIA with just $7M in AUM, shared with a business partner. Leveraging the freedom to create an SEO-optimized website tailored to their local community, they rapidly expanded the firm to $40M in less than four years. Listen in as Freeman shares his strategic decision to operate as an independent RIA, utilizing a custom spreadsheet to analyze and favor the financial benefits over traditional broker-dealer models, including flat-cost expense management and the ability to offer lower client costs while raising AUM fees. He also discusses how adopting a focused local SEO strategy and creating distinct websites for niche markets accelerated his firm's growth, as well as his effective client-conversion approach. You'll hear how expanding his service offerings has solidified client loyalty and supported a sustainable business model that prioritizes recurring revenue over constant new client acquisition, inspiring newer advisors to start in fee-only environments. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/388

Published: 4 June 2024

Today we're joined by Jenny Martella, Principal and Wealth Manager at Modera Wealth Management, whose unique journey in the financial advisory world saw her and her partner achieving remarkable success in growing their firm from $19 million to $250 million in assets under management within 7 years. Jenny and her previous partner were so successful that they decided to seek a merger with Modera Wealth, a much larger enterprise, so they could focus on their strengths. In this episode, we explore Jenny's strategies for growth, the challenges of operational responsibilities, and the decision-making process behind merging with a larger firm. Listen in as Jenny discusses the intricacies of the merger process, from exploring potential partners to navigating the transition of clients and brand identity. She also shares lessons about managing change, adapting to new technologies, and finding her place within the larger organization. You'll learn about her methods for effective client communication and maintaining personal inspiration in the face of professional challenges, ideas for preserving brand identity during a merger, and more. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/387   

Published: 28 May 2024

Dann Ryan is a Managing Partner at Sincerus Advisory, an RIA based in New York City that oversees approximately $165 million in assets under management for nearly 150 client households. Despite 17 years in the financial advisory business, Dann's persistent imposter syndrome fuels his anxiety before every client meeting, driving him to maintain high standards and accountability. This relentless pursuit of excellence has enabled Dann to build a thriving financial planning business that consistently attracts new client referrals. Listen in as Dann shares how he and his partner have successfully quintupled their AUM in five years through exceptional client service that spurred referrals and led to a waitlist system, and why they continue to use an AUM fee model despite a shift towards more planning-centric services. He discusses his early career at a fee-only advisory when such paths were less common, the long hours spent building financial plans as crucial career investments, and his decision to start his own firm after not becoming a partner at his previous job. We also explore his agile approach to financial planning, his openness to incorporating clients' investment ideas, and how serving a diverse client base while building lasting relationships has helped manage his imposter syndrome and enhance his career success. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/386

Transcribed - Published: 21 May 2024

Danielle Howard is the owner of Wealth By Design, a hybrid advisory firm based out of Colorado that oversees about $35 million in assets under advisement for 35 client households. Danielle's unique "Financial Fingerprints To Footprints" process assists clients who have difficulty implementing financial plans by uncovering and addressing their money memories. This approach helps them understand how past financial lessons shape their current financial identities and may hinder future goal achievement. Listen in as Danielle shares how she structures her financial planning engagements, using a 5-meeting sequence focused on understanding the client’s financial situation and the psychological factors influencing their money management. She discusses her transition to a planning-centric business, influenced by personal experiences with life planning questions, and explains how she adapts her client headcount to suit different life stages. We also explore the unique contributions women can make in the financial planning industry, Danielle’s evolving definition of success, and the personalized career paths available in the industry that allow for personal fulfillment while aiding clients in achieving their financial goals. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/385

Transcribed - Published: 14 May 2024