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Financial Advisor Success

Ep 411: Getting Clients Comfortable With Market Risk Using A More (Options-Based) Measured Risk Approach with Larry Kriesmer

Financial Advisor Success

Michael Kitces

News, Business, Entrepreneurship, Business News

4.8696 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2024

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Larry Kriesmer is the Chairman of Measured Risk Portfolios, an RIA based out of San Diego that oversees $350 million in assets under management for a combination of internal retail clients and external financial advisor clients. What's unique about Larry, though, is how he is able to get clients comfortable with taking equity market risk using an approach that actually puts 85% or more of client funds in Treasuries (effectively creating a floor on potential losses) while investing the rest into options on equity indexes to offer potential upside that still can approximate the returns of a conservative, moderate, or even aggressive balanced portfolio that might have otherwise simply allocated directly to the S&P 500. 

Listen in as Larry shares how he implements this strategy and introduces its potential benefits and risks to clients, the tax benefits available when using options, the importance of careful management when using options due to potentially rapid pricing changes, and his commitment to reinvesting in his firm to build a lasting business.

For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/411

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Financial Advisor Success Podcast, where you go behind the scenes with

0:07.1

financial planner, speaker, and consultant Michael Kitsis to hear stories of how leading

0:12.4

financial advisors navigated the inevitable challenges that arise on the path to success

0:17.4

and get insight from leading industry consultants about how to break through to the next

0:22.2

level in your advisory business. And now here's your host, Michael Kitsis. Welcome, everyone.

0:29.0

Welcome to the 411th episode of the Financial Advisor's Success Podcast. My guest on today's

0:34.1

podcast is Larry Kriesmer. Larry is the chairman of measured risk portfolios, an RAA based in San Diego, California,

0:40.0

that oversees $350 million in assets under management for a combination of internal retail

0:44.8

clients and external financial advisor clients.

0:48.1

What's unique about Larry, though, is how he's able to get clients comfortable with taking

0:52.0

equity market risk using an approach that actually puts 85% or more of the client's funds into Treasury, he's effectively creating

0:59.0

a floor on potential losses, while investing the rest of the dollars into options on equity

1:03.9

indexes to offer a potential upside that at least can still approximate the returns of a

1:08.6

conservative or moderate, even aggressive balance portfolio that might have otherwise simply allocated directly to the S&P 500. In this episode,

1:15.8

we talk in depth about how Larry implements his measured risk strategy by allowing clients to

1:21.1

select their downside floor that determine just how much is invested into short-term treasuries

1:25.5

and how much is remaining to invest into options

1:27.9

to generate the equity upside.

1:30.0

How Larry's approach differs from fixed index annuities or buffered ETF products by not necessarily

1:35.2

setting a potential cap on the upside returns and not being the additional cost for those vehicles

1:40.1

as a wrapper.

1:42.1

And how clients varyingly view Larry's strategy as either a way to have

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