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Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment

Technology

4.42.3K Ratings

Overview

Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters.

598 Episodes

597: Apple Watch Shuffle

Pre-show: 🗣️ New member’s special! ATP Insider: Roast My Home Screen 🗣️ Follow-up: Additional thoughts on TSMC vs. American workers (via Josh Osborne) EU approves Apple’s commitments to open NFC access EU announcement Apple approves emulator UTM SE after initial rejection infinitemac.org More on robots.txt (via Mike Lewis) MISP Verifying Googlebot & other Google crawlers Verifying Bingbot Maybe Open AI ain’t such a great group, after all Phil Schiller to join OpenAI’s board as an “Observer” Wait, j/k j/k j/k Open AI silences whistleblowers SEC Whistleblower Program Apple Watch SE with… plastic casing? New HomePod Mini color Press release Apple “Home Accessory” Touchscreen HomePod rumors Ask ATP: Should one even bother learning an ancient language today? What’s the correct placement for an EV charger? (via Thomas Brock) How do we keep our backup vortexes from becoming backup black holes? (via Russell Fitzpatrick) Arq Backup Why doesn’t Apple include a small battery in desktop Macs? (via Ty Bolt) Post-show: Marco’s 🍌 has come home Before photo Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Product Longevity Apple improving battery replacements Apple commits to at least 5 years of security updates Apple’s Don’t Let Me Go ad Gruber’s response Follow-up iCloud vs. Competition Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Trade Coffee: Get a free bag of coffee when you give Trade a try. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 24 July 2024

596: A New Foundation for Progress

Pre-show: Casey’s phoenix Follow-up: More on “S-Tier” (via kuriko) More on the HP iPod (via Voline) David Schaub identifies the iMac clone that Apple sued over European Union regulations & profits (via Yury Molodtsov) More on non-competes (via Gary Havens) 🇹🇼/🇺🇸 Culture Clash explained (via Ryan Lee) Overcast’s 10th Anniversary… Launch! 🎉 × 1️⃣0️⃣ Blackbird FCModel Post-show: Casey’s new office audio setup Era 300 Premium Immersive Set with Arc (Casey has the same Arc soundbar, the same Sub Gen 3, but One SLs as rears) Sub (Gen 3) Move (Casey has a Move 1) Roam (Casey has a Roam 1) Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Notarization changes in Sequoia Follow-up Sponsored by: Tailscale: A secure network that just works. 1Password: More than a password manager. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 16 July 2024

595: The Best Secret Store

Pre-show: Casey’s tales of woe Fully Herman Miller Jarvis Follow-up: An 🎵 accidental 🎵 miss from the iPod Tier List special (via Scott Shuchart) The origins of S-Tier in tier lists (via David Schaub) Grading in Japan AirPods Pro do have an inward-facing microphone Another entry for Brexit-style name for Apple rage-quitting the EU (via Terry Gilbert) What’s the justification for allowing AI crawlers? (via Manu) Cloudflare has 1-click AI crawler blocking Epic Games & Apple continue to bicker Epic accuses Apple of delaying its EU alternative store launch Epic’s statements Apple approves Epic Games Store Tim Sweeney pops off Tech and Labor FTC has banned noncompete agreements for workers TSMC’s Struggles in Arizona Gruber’s summary US-made chips will cost Apple more The Financial Times Judge says “just kidding” to FTC’s noncompete ruling Ask ATP: Is moving to a bundled password manager safe (via Trager) Is Apple’s embrace of AI enough to prevent it from being the next crypto? (via Jamie) What makes iCloud Keychain different than the Windows Recall database? (via Jon Wilson) Is Apple still a privacy-first company? (via Steven Wood) Post-show: John still isn’t allowing holes in his house Technology Connections video on heat pumps Members-only ATP Overtime: Feature Requests for Death Greg Pierce Craig Hockenberry Louie Mantia Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 10 July 2024

594: We Just Found It on the Doorstep

Pre-show: Casey’s lunchtime soundtrack New member’s special: iPod Tier List Follow-up: Is the genesis of the red/black U2 iPod How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (via Brian Hamilton) An additional “feature” of the U2 iPods (via Max Velasco Knott) One EU citizen’s perspective on DMA (via Nicolai Brunvoll Ernst) Suggestions for “Brexit”-style colloquialisms for Apple leaving the EU iQuit (via Oliver Thomas) iLeave (via Jared Counts) AXiT (via Frederik Björeman) CarPlay audio New version of Casey’s dongle Using AirPods Pro as hearing protection (via Kirk Northrop) Apple is using Google Cloud infrastructure to train/serve AI AxLearn AxLearn Infrastructure Apple’s “Help Me Choose” Wizard Giulio Montagner discovers the dark truth A PCI Express break-out box compatible with Apple Silicon Macs AI Training & Data Rights John Voorhees from MacStories Protecting MacStories from AI Bots OpenAI and Anthropic are ignoring robots.txt as well robots.txt MJ Tsai roundup Perplexity CEO doesn’t really seem to care Microsoft’s AI boss actively doesn’t care about your feelings Google Zero Music industry giants cry copyright foul on AI firms The Verge Andy Baio 404 Media The RIAA versus AI, explained Figma pulls AI tool after it apes Apple’s design I Made This - John’s post about AI and the act of creation Monkey selfie copyright dispute Post-show: John’s Mac Pro[blems] Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s Vision Pro plans Gurman’s take Jason’s take Sponsored by: 1Password: More than a password manager. Photon Camera: Unlock your creative potential with Photon Camera. Transform moments into masterpieces. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 5 July 2024

593: Not a European Lawyer

Pre-show: Casey’s thought processes and traditions The Last Dance Follow-up: iCloud Keychain browser integration in Sequoia Ricky Mondello on Chrome Native Messaging JSON files documentations Simeon (formerly Chrome, now Firefox) weighs in Use alternative installation methods for Chrome extensions Sideloading addons in Firefox Niléane points out Network Locations was already back in Sonoma iPhone Mirroring doesn’t help with rearranging your home screen (via Hunt 2013) HomePods apparently have 1GB RAM Some insight on InSight Chess is around 35 years old Infinite Mac CarPlay Next-Generation CarPlay Design System Next-generation CarPlay Architecture Apple Found in Breach of DMA Apple Statement Margrethe Vestager Apple may delay features because of DMA Press release Ask ATP: Does anyone keep track if rumor mongers’ claims are true are not? (via Todd Vaziri) Post-show: An update on Erin’s car situation Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple plans thinner devices? Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 27 June 2024

592: I Think He Won the Game

Pre-show: Marco’s nethers and the Vision Pro The Talk Show Live from WWDC 2024 Theatre (App Store link) Sandwich SpatialGen ATP Interview: Holly Borla & Ben Cohen Microsoft Recall 7 June: Microsoft Recall will be opt-in 13 June: Microsoft Recalls Recall Microsoft blog post CoPilot+PCs on Intel and AMD won’t get Copilot AI features UTM has gotten told to pound sand More from Michael Tsai Dolphin and the App Store Apple and Meta could face charges for violating 🇪🇺 DMA rules Casey was in the keynote!! tvOS InSight will use your iPhone InSight uses ML to identify actors and songs? Turning off sports notifications on the Apple TV watchOS 11 offers rest days Matthew Willoughby with an excellent flex “Apple ID” → “Apple Account” macOS Sequoia Using an Apple Pencil with an iPad in Sidecar already works! Chris Chelberg has a galaxy brain moment Network Locations have returned in Sequoia Passwords.app passwords are still right-aligned Sequoia window tiling can be disabled Chess has been updated! (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Comparison (via Cabel Sasser) iCloud Keychain browser integration in Sequoia (via Jonathan Freese) Sequoia VMs allow logging into iCloud Apple documentation Apple Intelligence Apple Intelligence & third-party mail apps (via Rick Knowler) Xcode AI code completions Hardware requirements (via David Steer) Apple’s AI training data How to tell Apple “no thanks” on your website data Tim Cook interview in the Washington Post ST-S asks about Siri unsupported devices Apple Silicon in Apple’s Private Cloud Computing servers The Talk Show Apple & OpenAI aren’t paying each other yet Gurman’s report The Sane on the impact of Apple Intelligence iOS 18 Bezel indents GIF Caleb Denman on iOS flashlight features Quinn’s video Third-party cameras on the iOS lock screen (via ST-S) WWDC video Obscura visionOS 2.0 Features not mentioned in the keynote Customize your Home View See your keyboard in any environment Guest user improvements Enterprise APIs Other spots by The Verge Swift Moved out of github.com/apple New home Swift Testing Github HomeKit: You can now pick your HomeKit hub CarPlay New features Next-gen CarPlay video Post-show: Erin’s no-good, very bad week A very expensive pebble Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s Blue Ocean, revisited John’s original blog post Fairbuds noise-canceling earbuds have an easily swappable battery Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 18 June 2024

ATP Interview: Holly Borla & Ben Cohen

Holly Borla: Swift Language Engineering Manager @holly on Mastodon Ben Cohen: Senior Software Engineering Manager, Swift Team @airspeedswift on Mastodon

Transcribed - Published: 12 June 2024

591: That's Why I Like Computers

Our WWDC 2024 recap episode. Sponsored by: DeleteMe: DeleteMe makes it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Trade Coffee: Enjoy 30% off your first month of coffee.

Transcribed - Published: 11 June 2024

590: Buy Your Car an iPhone

Pre-show: Marco’s fans Peltier plate Marco’s mount The alternative stronger cooler Cooler only, without charging Follow-up: Snapdragon X actually runs at 45 TOPS (via sciwizam) Justin Long shills for Qualcomm Commercial Snapdragon Computex Keynote Previously, for Intel Apple’s M1 ad with John Hodgman (“PC”) Gruber’s take Jason on macOS permissions dialogs Windows Recall is a security “disaster” Steal everything in two lines of code AMD enters the AI chat Intel’s new Lunar Lake CPUs When Apple said “The M2 iPad Air has 10 GPU cores” they really meant “9 GPU cores” Performance wasn’t affected though How LLMs learn Retrieval-augmented generation (via Adeiko) Problems with RAG Research paper On ∞ context (via Stephen Tierney) Research paper WWDC Preview Read my lips: no new hardware Developer app immersive environment OpenAI deal XCTest Fluent Assertions Ask ATP: Any chance the expected late-2024 M4 MacBook Pro gets Thunderbolt 5? (via James) Any chance we’ll get 16GB RAM in the eventual M4 MacBook Air? (via David Martin) Could the lack of cellular Mac be because there’s no Apple modem? (via Winnie Lewis) Post-show Neutral: Kid cars, revisited ATP Neutral: Car shopping Casey’s Wireless CarPlay adapter Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s in-car dreams are a bit of a 🎢 Mercedes says “nothx” Decoder episode Polestar says “maybes” Decoder episode Apple 🤝 Rivian? Digitimes (Paywalled) Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off your first box, and 20% off the next month, using code ATP50. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using the code ATP. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 6 June 2024

589: The Correct Amount of Rocks

Follow-up: New Vision Pro Content Experience Immersive (“Sizzle Reel”) Adventure Episode 2: Parkour What If…? Jason Snell’s review Even the low-storage 13” iPad Pros have 12 GB of RAM, despite only using 8 GB? 🤨 Editors’ note: Thanks to Elon’s Big Business Brain™, we now have to link to all the tweets X’s in this whole 🤬 thread, because Twitter X won’t show threads unless you’re logged in. Well done, Elon. Great work. 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 Now we’re junking up our show notes because we 💙 our listeners more than we hate him. And we really hate him. Shahram Mohktari (iFixIt Lead Teardown Technician) Could it be binning? Maybe, but unlikely. For real M4 iPad Pro flicker? Pulse-width modulation Reddit thread 1 Reddit thread 2 Reddit thread 3 Reddit thread 4 MacRumors TOPS measurements (via Michael Thompson) iCloud Drive & node_modules (via Eric Jacobsen) nosync-icloud asimov Excluded directory list Audio routing during Vision Pro guest mode (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen) Gurman on what to expect at WWDC Neven Mrgan gets an email Breaking news on Siri “scripting” App Intents NSUserActivity LLM check-in Google scrambles to manually clean up its AI-generated mess Pachinko 3Blue1Brown neural networks playlist Chapter 5: But what is a GPT? Visual intro to transformers Chapter 6: Attention in transformers, visually explained Google on its LLM goals at I/O Post-show: Marco’s desk setup KEF Q150 Sonos Era 300 Sonos Move Sonos Combo Adapter Sub (Gen 3) Members-only ATP Overtime: Biden signs TikTok ‘ban’ bill into law Legal challenges that lie ahead for TikTok — in both US & China TikTok sues the US government TikTok seems to be dodging App Store commissions in Epic fashion Sponsored by: DeleteMe: DeleteMe makes it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Fastmail: Make email yours. Fast, private email that’s just for you. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 31 May 2024

588: Sync Up Your Cycle

Follow-up: John’s iPad Pro (M4) review MKBHD’s magnets reel doesn’t show the rail; it’s on the cover. (via Odin) The iPad Pro can bend, but it’s difficult JerryRigEverything @ 8m40s Quinn’s stunning Pencil Pro observation Sebastian de With Zoom audio for Marco’s town meetings (via Steve J Stutz, among others) Delta gets its first legal challenge The Verge The reason behind the lack of GameCube/Wii emulators on iOS Original blog post No New Mac Studio nor Mac Pro Until Mid-2025? Microsoft pushes [again] toward ARM PCs [and AI] Blog post The Verge Windows RT Ars Technica Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite & X Plus Nuvia Copilot+PC Surface Laptop …with fans? WorksOnWoA Copilot+PC roundup Surface Pro Microsoft Recall Demo short Ars Technica Rewind Ask ATP: Any chance the expected late-2024 M4 MacBook Pro gets Thunderbolt 5? (via James)Sync Up Your Cycle Could the lack of cellular Mac be because there’s no Apple modem? (via Winnie Lewis) What are our histories with vision problems? Keratoconus Post-show: Parental Vision Pro demos Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝 OpenAI OpenAI pulls its Scarlett Johansson clone voice Altman’s tweet …after she told them to go outside & play hide and go 🤬 themselves Maybe they didn’t copy her voice? Don’t add glue to your pizza sauce, kids Cabel’s take Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using the code ATP. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 24 May 2024

587: No Dots Are Going to Help Me

New member special: ATP Neutral: Car Shopping Pre-show: Marco is back in the ScanSnap world Raven scanner (defunct) Fujitsu Ricoh ScanSnap iX1600 Follow-up: Apple apologizes for iPad “Crush” ad Charlie Chapman’s 📱💨 AppleCare+ for educational-discounted products (via Carter Sanderson) Extend your AppleCare+ coverage iPad nano-texture glass Arun Maini interviews Ternus & Joswiak 1 2 3 4 Editors’ note: Thanks to Elon’s Big Business Brain™, we now have to link to all the tweets X’s in this whole 🤬 thread, because Twitter X won’t show threads unless you’re logged in. Well done, Elon. Great work. 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 … 👏🏻 Now we’re junking up our show notes because we 💙 our listeners more than we hate him. And we really hate him. iPad Pro Smart Folio angles MKBHD’s reel Smart Folio Keyboard reliability Apple stickers (via Scott) The M4’s “next-generation ML accelerators” (via Wade Tregaskis) NEON M4 Neural Engine: 38 trillion ops/sec vs. M3’s 13 trillion ops/sec Tom’s Hardware M4 with 1 disabled P-core vs. M3 with no disabled P-cores Apple announces new accessibility features Vehicle Motion Cues demo video Shelly Brisbin’s take John’s brief iPad Pro review iPad Pro dissatisfaction Federico Viticci: Why iPadOS Still Doesn’t Get the Basics Right Steve Troughton-Smith: The iPad Pro Manifesto (2024 Edition) John Gruber: The M4 iPad Pros Ask ATP: Will the M4’s new display driver set us up for a 2-external-display computer with M4? (via Rumee Ahmed) Why is there so much discussion about CPU power in iPads but not iPhones? (via Mike Runcieman) Members-only ATP Overtime: Meta wants to be the Microsoft of headsets Meta announcement Meta Quest 🤝 Xbox Post-show: John’s latest remote IT software adventure Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy, and safe to remove your personal data online. Use code atp at checkout for 20% off. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 16 May 2024

586: Do a Barrel Roll!

Follow-up: More on RAM in base-model Macs HomeKit light controls UI Holoplot speakers in the Sphere Festival speakers One last ride for FineWoven? Apple’s May Event 🇬🇧 & 🇪🇺: Charger sold separately And no soup stickers for anyone Apple’s commercial hullabaloo Hydraulic Press Channel Federico’s Thunderbolt image Quinn Nelson’s Tandem OLED video Binning Rick Williams’ question Logitech Combo Touch keyboard Apple Pencil Pro box designs Infuse Post-show Neutral: The Cybertruck has landed across the street from Casey Pontiac Aztek Subaru BRAT Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Silicon in AI servers? MacRumors in April MacRumors in May Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Compiler: An original podcast from Red Hat discussing tech topics big, small, and strange. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 9 May 2024

585: Everyone Heard the Same Nonsense

Pre-show: Casey’s after-action report St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital RelayFM Podcastathon 2023 Part 1 & Part 2 Follow-up: It’s possible to toggle a dimmable light in Home.app (via Dan Sturm) The Hayes AT command set is still going strong 😱 (via Pedro Fernandes) TSMC unveils 1.6nm process for 2026 chips Anandtech’s coverage Rabbit R1 reviews Stephen Robles MKBHD David Pierce @ The Verge Ben Lovejoy @ 9to5Mac Dave2D Riley Testut on Delta availability iPadOS is classified as “Gatekeeper” under the DMA No new Vision Pro until late 2026? May 7 Apple event Tim Cook’s tweet M4 iPad rumor Ask ATP: Did Marco give up on fussy coffee, as Casey’s prophecy foretold? (via Charlie Sorrel) Trade Coffee (literally sponsoring this episode) YES PLZ (has previously sponsored) Cometeer frozen coffee pods (Marco’s referral link) Can we give WWDC tips? (via Andy) Are we worried about charging station privacy? (via Wade) Automakers are Sharing Consumers’ Driving Behavior with Insurance Companies (11 March 2024) GM Quits Sharing Driving Behavior with Data Brokers (22 March 2024) Post-show: Marco’s after-action report The Sphere How the Sphere Works The Verge’s coverage Pillow Jets video (🍄🎆) Drew Carey’s review (NSFW) AmazeVR Members-only ATP Overtime: The Limitless pendant Previously on ATP… Introductory video The Verge coverage Sponsored by: Computex: The leading international technology exhibition. Trade Coffee: The Best Coffee is Made at Home. Enjoy a free bag of roasted-to-order coffee and $15 off select plans when you join Trade. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 2 May 2024

584: Daisy Hates Ticketmaster

Pre-show: Marco’s Sinus Situation & the one month a yellow car makes sense The ATP Store is BACK baby! 👕 Runs until Sunday, 28 April. Don’t wait! 🚨 THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING 🚨 Remember members get 15% off! Follow-up: Filesystems (🛎), case sensitivity, and APFS volumes Handedness & “jumped” vs. “jumps” Pangrams Clarifications on the xz sabotage (via Mat Gadd) The Delta game emulator is now available! 🇪🇺 AltStore PAL 🌎 App Store #1 free app! Apple allows using used parts for repairs Stephen’s take Apple’s lobbying history Apple press release iFixit blog post Ceiling fan switches Lutron Caséta (smart home switches/dimmers/fan controls) Lutron Sunnata (dumb dimmer) Waveform lighting Ticketmaster finally getting what it deserves? Wall Street Journal Broadband labels M4 Macs are coming this year? iPhone 16/16+ to have more RAM? Mac desktop RAM chart Mac laptop RAM chart Installing audio apps is going to get easier? Rogue Amoeba’s 2024 Sitrep Ask ATP: Is the M4 generation worth holding out for? Why don’t we have 32-bit emulation? (via Joe Bezdek) Will the [presumably HDR] phantom OLED iPad Pro work well as a second display with something SDR? Post-show: Marco is going to The Sphere Billy Joel: The 100th The New Yorker on Billy’s helicopter rides But apparently he’s given up the helicopter rides Turn the Lights Back On Members-only ATP Overtime: AI devices… now with more “Apple”! Jony Ive & Sam Altman seeking funding for “personal AI device” Apple’s screen-reading AI system Paper (PDF link) 3Blue1Brown videos But what is a GPT? Attention in transformers, visually explained Sponsored by: Swift Craft: The brand new Swift developers’ conference in the UK, overlooking the sea. Use code ATP when you register for 10% off. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 23 April 2024

583: I've Spent a Lot of Time in the Address Bar

Pre-show: Power problems The ATP Store is BACK baby! 👕 Runs until Sunday, 28 April. Don’t wait! Remember members get 15% off! New member special: ATP Insider: Computing Origin Stories Follow-up: How little kids write 4s Marco sample Casey sample John sample Field Notes Three-step car buying process (via Paul Chernoff) Rivian software update helps avoid trash EV chargers Joe Lion on reticle limits High-NA EUV ATP #562: Do You Have a Dragon? Johny Srouji interview (Timestamp link to 34m28s) Belkin phone holders iPhone Mount with MagSafe for Apple TV 4K Auto-Tracking Stand Pro with DockKit A first look at 🇪🇺’s alternative app stores Jason’s fresh-install experience Apple opens App Store to “retro” game emulators Official guidelines James Thomson Ben McCarthy’s forthcoming Ketchup app First emulators arrive iGBA removed for unknown reasons Riley’s take Apple’s clarification why iGBA was removed Nintendo nukes Yuzu The Verge initial coverage & follow-up Ask ATP: How does John manage new Safari windows? (via Jan Wedekind) Do we use case-sensitive file systems on our Macs? (via Pedro Fernandes) Unicode normalization What kind of fan did Marco buy? (via Matt McCurdy) Fanimation Post-show: Lutron Diva smart switch Lutron Claro accessory switch for Diva dimmers on multi-way circuits Members-only ATP Overtime: Visiting with old friends Automattic acquires Beeper NY Times coverage Adium texts.com Humane AI Pin reviews David Pierce @ The Verge MKBHD Cybertruck clip Can anyone but a tech giant build the next big thing? Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Fastmail: Make email yours. Fast, private email that’s just for you. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 16 April 2024

582: Can't Render, Fog It

Pre-show: SD-card failures The ATP Store is BACK, baby! 👕 Runs until Sunday, 28 April. Don’t wait! Remember members get 15% off! Follow-up: The “unpatchable” M-series exploit Explanatory video Hector Martin found the “chicken bit” ARM Exception Levels DMP Y’all don’t read the show notes, huh? 😏 LG DualUp Monitor An 🎵 accidental 🎵 rant about the state of podcasting today DAI Would a M3-family chip really have no efficiency cores? (via Matthaus Woolard) Max Tech’s take on “M4 Ultra” rumors Reticle limits NVIDIA GH100 GPU Apple laying off 700+ workers MacRumors Apple 🤝🏻 Shutterstock Reuters Apple’s in-box iPhone “Presto” flashing machine Casey has tried Spatial Personas Upgrade #507: Differently Social Game Room (App Store link) Battleship Gucci (App Store link) Trailer Turok Ask ATP: How does one buy a car? (via Chandler Kent) CarEdge Deal School 3.0 What even is ownership, these days? (via Anonymous) Egghead Software SimCity copy protection (the red image on teh right-hand side) Overton Window This article says Catalyst is abandoned; is it? (via Jonathan Sibley) Post-show: Rivian Bluetooth & Fast-Charging Sitrep Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple making robots? 🤖 ImageWriter Sponsored by: Swift Craft: The brand new Swift developers’ conference in the UK, overlooking the sea. Trade Coffee: The best coffee is made at home. Enjoy a free bag of roasted-to-order coffee and $15 off select plans when you join. Computex: The leading international technology exhibition. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 11 April 2024

581: A Different Way to Be Evil

Pre-show: John’s two-year anniversary Follow-up: WWDC lottery results John’s Affinity Designer struggles Marco’s convert stroke → shape suggestion from the bootleg Offset path using Contour Tool (via Vitor) Create Compound (via Julian Kissman) Inconsistencies noted by Christian Meyer Sam Abuelsamid on real-time OSes in cars QNX Wind River Green Hills Qualcomm Snapdragon Cockpit ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED fix is in Chrome 124 beta Has Casey considered running any of his monitors in portrait? (via Bilal Khan) LG DualUp Monitor Apple IDs & real-world verification (via Simone Rizzo) Non-email Apple IDs do still exist (via Erik) Apple podcast transcripts & ☁️ computing (via Ben) MacWhisper Microsoft is learning from Apple’s mistakes and is pre-emptively splitting Teams off from Office No UltraFusion interconnect on M3 Max? MacRumors Vadim Yuryev Apple Vision Pro Spatial Personas Connected #496: I Tried to Put My Finger in Myke’s Mouth Jason’s take Stephen’s take Apple’s MLS Playoffs immersive video Jason’s take Ben Thompson’s take (Paywalled) Under the Radar #289: Vision Pro Numbers Mad Max: Fury Road Centered framing The Fastest Cut: Furious Film Editing Vroom F1TV MultiViewer Post-show: New theme song! Thank you, Jonathan Mann!! Members-only ATP Overtime: Hardware vulnerability in Apple Silicon Michael Tsai’s coverage summary xz Utils backdoor The Verge coverage xz attack shell script A Microcosm of the interactions in Open Source projects Compulsory xkcd I am not a supplier OSQI Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 5 April 2024

580: Socks in the Knob-Hole

Pre-show: Marco’s recording situation Under the Radar #289: Vision Pro Numbers Follow-up: Image captioning in iOS (via Jim Buell) DMA compliance feedback session is live Kara Swisher interviews Margrethe Vestager (Overcast link) Gruber’s summary Apple/Meta/Google targeted by EU in DMA non-compliance investigations European Commission press release Dan Moren’s take Reuters interview with Margrethe Vestager Regarding third-party messaging apps and the DOJ suit Artificial tooth monopoly led the DOJ to… Jersey‽ Forum shopping Legal experts praise DOJ case DOJ lawsuit thoughts from Gavin Laing WWDC announced Greg Jozwiak’s tweet People are fed up with useless tech in their cars EuroNCAP is doing the Lord’s work New CarPlay is Apple’s last hope to crack cars? Real-time operating system QNX vs. Android Automotive QNX Ask ATP: How soon after waking up do we engage with a device? (via Nick) Everyone’s Sony alarm clock What would cause us to go to 128 bit? (via Brian) Post-show: John’s battles with Affinity Designer PaintCode Members-only ATP Overtime: The future of Apple ID To be rebranded as “Apple Account”? (February 2024) More from MacRumors (March 2024) Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off with code atp50. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 28 March 2024

579: Use Your Words

Pre-show: We definitely recorded a day late because we’re clairvoyant and definitely not because of pyrotechnics. Follow-up: The M1 MacBook Air lives on at… Walmart Warmart press release Apple Silicon & Project Titan Safari hangs (via Wade) Apple’s DMA compliance efforts Apple DMA compliance workshop Gruber’s take Kay Jebelli’s recap on Twitter AI-generated transcript Video of Riley Testut’s question/answer John’s curious obsession with street widths Marco: 8’ / ~2.5m Underscore: 19’4” / ~6m John: 23’5” / ~11m Magnets in Apple Watch bands (via Harvey Simon) Modern Buckle Is podcast transcription is Apple’s first big cloud computing effort? US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones The Verge Lawsuit PDF Transcript of prepared remarks Toot from Glyph Post-show Ask ATP: What do John & Marco have against multiple monitors, anyway? (via Tony) Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple AI updates Another AI paper from Apple VentureBeat summary Stratechery recap (Paywalled) Apple partnering with Google or OpenAI? Bloomberg coverage Humane Ai Pin Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Trade Coffee: The best coffee is made at home. Enjoy a free bag of roasted-to-order coffee and $15 off select plans when you join.

Transcribed - Published: 22 March 2024

578: Weird Can Be Beautiful

Pre-show: ATP Overtime ATP Insider: John’s Windows ATP 96: The Windows of Siracusa County ATP Membership FAQ AppStories Follow-up: Callsheet available on visionOS “Put me on Aux” (via Sam Davies) Spotify & free users (via Colin Meney) 256 GB M3 MacBook Air has 2× 128 GB NAND chips iFixIt Teardown Project Titan chip rumors What happens when 🇪🇺 folks leave 🇪🇺 for a while? Epic’s developer account reinstated Gruber’s take Upgrade #503: We Own the Refs, the Stadium, and the Field More options for 🇪🇺 distribution Getting ready for Web Distribution Newly proposed Apple flow ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED gets first attempted fix Original feature Google Gemini’s revisionist history Reconcilable Differences #228: Big Filter Boy Stratechery: Aggregator’s AI Risk Gemini refuses to answer election questions Reuters Ask ATP: How come old software doesn’t continue to work anymore, particularly on mobile? (via Erik Neu) Super Smash Brothers Mega Man 2 OpenEmu Would Apple be better off trading lower App Store commissions for higher hardware prices? (via Ryan Maloney) Playdate Swift on the Playdate Pico 8 Post-show Neutral: Rivian R2 & R3 Members-only ATP Overtime: Rabbit r1 Interview with Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu Neuro-symbolic model CueCat Sponsored by: Magic Lasso Adblock: Block ads, trackers and annoyances on your iPhone, iPad and Mac. Get 1 month free access to all features today.

Transcribed - Published: 14 March 2024

577: Colorful Criticism

Pre-show: Old men talk about old car stereos Follow-up: John’s notes export via privacy.apple.com Apple Vision Pro & Project Titan (via James Anthony) JIBO gita (the robot Casey was thinking of) Gurman’s article (or on Apple News) Apple Vision Pro’s inevitable future (via Matt Johnson) M3 MacBook Airs Gurman on forthcoming Apple events Hector Martin on two displays Apple confirms backport of two-display support to M3 RIP the 🧀 Apple fined $2 billion by EU for App Store practices The Verge EU ruling Apple’s response Sherman Antitrust Act AltStore has received its MarketplaceKit entitlement Apple’s DMA policy updates Updated rules Apple terminates Epic’s developer account Epic’s blog post Example tweet Post-show Ask ATP: If we could solve one of Apple’s legal problems, what would it be? (via Marc Robinson) Sponsored by: Trade Coffee: The best coffee is made at home. Enjoy a free bag of roasted-to-order coffee and $15 off select plans. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 7 March 2024

576: Quiet Little Leech

Pre-show: Marco is many things, but patient is… not one of them. Blackbox Crouton Joanna Stern’s video Television (App Store link) ForeFlight Voyager Flight Control Follow-up: Vision Pro demand Clarification about Apple’s new iMessage encryption Extracting data from iCloud (via John Males) Apple Privacy Magnets and compasses …in ✨ space ✨ (via Adam Wuerl) …can be canceled out by Core Motion (via Zev Eisenberg) Vision Pro & motion blur (via Orlando Herrera) Meta’s “Pixel Codec Avatars” vs. Personas (via Gottfried Chen) Facebook video Uncanny valley graph Casey’s podcast appearance CrackGate Application Submission Feedback regarding Project Titan MacRumors coverage New York Times coverage Tim Cook on cars in 2017 MJ Tsai Jeff Johnson Ask ATP: What email clients do we use? (via Joe) Claris Emailer Entourage Why hasn’t Marco fallen off the deep end explored a DIY mechanical keyboard? (via Warren Bakay) How interested are we in LLMs & generative AIs? sdxl⚡lightning Post-show: WWDC wish-casting

Transcribed - Published: 29 February 2024

575: Walk a Little Faster

Pre-show: Vision Pro comfort Light Seal Sizes Decoded ATP Movie Club: Steve Jobs Follow-up: Vision Pro motion blur (via Chase) Blur Busters Vision Pro and warped images Eyes as input vs. output (via Tony DiTaranto) Fitts’s Law and the Dock Apple 🤝🏻 Qualcomm Apple & Patents Mangets & Compasses (via Harvey Simon) Modern buckle Line/letter of credit (via Brian Coffey) Vision Pro Personas …are getting better in 1.1? 1.0 → 1.1 examples Charlie Chapman’s example Persona Studio (App Store link) Apple defends against future iMessage attacks Apple blog post Ask ATP: How do we evangelize Mac-assed Mac apps? (via Ian Malczewski) If we could get one new API for our apps, what would it be? (via Julian Gamble) Could Marco best/first/favorite Phish concerts? (via Winnie Lewis) Reconcilable Differences Live Phish Post-show: Using a high-end camera and gear for Vision Pro panoramas Fuji GFX Canon dual fisheye lens Sponsored by: Celtreos: An incredible shoot-em-up with 12 stages, a huge soundtrack, and tons of gameplay features! Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 22 February 2024

574: Weird Forking Scenario

Pre-show: Casey’s Persona Surprise Follow-up: iPad Pro 11” PPD PPD calculator A note on field of view and eye movement Some discussion about Mac Virtual Display fidelity Turning off Apple Vision Pro The Developer Strap (requires login) is Thunderbolt capable Orion (HDMI display app for iPad) Casey’s HDMI capture dongle “Real” vs. “Fake” 3D (via Matt Rigby) Rotoscoping More thoughts from friend-of-the-show Todd Vaziri More [now un-paywalled!] thoughts from FotS Joe Rosensteel iMessage will not be regulated as part of DMA WhatsApp interoperability strategy Riley Testut of AltStore weighs in on third-party marketplaces What is a €1M “line of credit”, anyway? Apple Vision Pro Guest mode HDCP Voices of VR Podcast with Bert Nepveu Fitts’ Law on Dithering ⌘-Tab EyeSight Post-show: Casey’s Vision Pro after-action report Casey’s blog post Sponsored by: Members like you! Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 15 February 2024

573: Look at It Harder

Follow-up: YouTube API weirdness (via Christian Selig) John’s [latest] Photoshop complaint €0.50 is “50 cents” Prescription lens pairing Wide Lightning™ and Wider Lightning™ Developer Strap (requires developer account) Vision Pro weight discussed in Vanity Fair Bluetooth peripherals Intel Macs & Mac Virtual Display Support Document Vision Pro syncs when not in use Performance throttling Vision Pro for movies & TV Color reproduction iFixit estimates resolution “Ideal” field of view for movies Pixels per degree: iPad Pro 11” @ 14” / 35cm = 28 ppd 65” 4K TV @ 5 feet / 1.5m = 76 ppd Pro Display XDR @ 2 feet / 0.6m = 100 ppd Real vs. Fake 3D iFixit Teardown Video part 1 Video part 2 Vision Pro initial thoughts John on spatial computing Captain EO Soarin’ VAC Post-show: Casey’s Vision Pro train experience Casey Neistat’s video Sponsored by: Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 8 February 2024

572: Cryptofarts and Copyright Infringement

Follow-up: Vision Pro talk begins next week; some good reviews for now: Nilay Patel @ The Verge Video review Joanna Stern at The Wall Street Journal Brian Tong Gruber MKBHD’s using Vision Pro YouTube API (via Alex Chan) Quota costs Console hardware margins in the App Store & consoles Customer ownership Stolen Device Protection & device repairs (via Niru Maheswaranathan) European eye prescriptions (via René Schätzl) Apple’s EU DMA compliance Apple Newsroom Apple Developer documentation Apple Developer News Gruber’s summary Apple Fee Calculator Marketplace requirements MarketplaceKit Developer documentation Upgrade #497: The Poison Pill Tapestry Kickstarter Actual DMA text English Steven Sinofsky’s Summary MacStories Summary Ask ATP: Do we ever go mono on our AirPods? (via Darin Kelkhoff) Are there any apps we’d make if there weren’t already ♾️ takes on that app? (via Aaron Thomas) Total Annihilation Ferrite What settings do we use for Apple Music? (via Christian Kent) Mimi Hearing Test Post-show: Casey is amped about his forthcoming Mac monitor Ensemble to pull individual windows into visionOS Sponsored by: Green Chef: The #1 meal kit for eating well. Use code atp for 60% off, plus 20% off your next two months. AdBlock Pro: Block ads in Safari on iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 1 February 2024

571: Adding Some Carrot

Pre-show: YouTube updates Follow-up: SCSI DB-25 was on the back of Macs, not DB-50 D-subminiature iOS Screen Sharing is a thing No control for remote users though On Apple’s 30% cut and payment processing fees The Art of the Possible (John’s blog post) Whose customer is this, anyway? Apple’s compliance with EU law is likely to go exactly as expected Apple News link Apple Vision Pro optics (via Todd Zarwell & jkahnk) Apple’s software workaround for Masimo-related import ban Gruber’s take Apple Vision Pro preorders Accessories Battery Belkin Battery Holder Travel Case Light Seal Light seal sizes? (via Quinn Nelson) Light Seal Cushion Solo Knit Band Dual Loop Band Optical inserts (readers or prescription) Please don’t break one 💸 The Verge Weight You have to pair the optical inserts Launch inventory was 80,000 units? But sales may have hit 180k? Reseller market is optimistic ebay Search Apple Vision Pro Guided Tour Sorry, non-🇺🇸 Ask ATP: Does the Apple Vision Pro work like a camera viewfinder? (via Nigel Warren) Do we do anything to back up our emails? (via Lawrence Koteff) Google Takeout Do we use iMessage Contact Key Verification? (via Severin) Post-show: Family Apple Vision Pro vibe check QuickDraw 3D Scrapbook Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 26 January 2024

570: The Local Mooching Situation

Pre-show: Some Administrivia New ATP member’s special! ATP episodes are now on YouTube! Follow-up: Marco’s UPS issue Eaton UPS backup (via Jeff Strobel) UPSes don’t like “dirty” power Yes, y’all, John can be wrong sometimes. But maybe he was 🤏🏻 right too? 🤔 Apple Vision Pro ordering details Apple Vision Pro has 10 GPU cores More on the Apple Vision Pro demos Apple Vision Pro entertainment experiences Maybe not all prescriptions work? (via Justin Yost) Meta Oculus Quest 2 Inserts Apple turns off blood oxygen sensor to avoid import ban Dear Epic, 🖕. Love, Apple Support page MacRumors summary The Art of the Possible Tyler Hall on “Modern-day Apple” Ben Thompson’s take at Stratechery (Paywalled) Ask ATP: How would we set up an iOS device for the elderly? (via Seppe Rutten) Assistive Access Why do audio-free apps sometimes stop playback of other apps? (via Wilson Martinez) Levis app (App Store link) Why doesn’t Apple just make HomePod mini into a mesh router? (via Saif Khan) Post-show: What is a truck, anyway? Casey’s poll Maybe not a northern thing? Greg Pierce gets nerdy about it Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Notion: Your wiki, docs, & projects. Together. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 18 January 2024

569: Do Grasshoppers Have Tongues?

Pre-show: Dad Dreams Follow-up: New watch bands will actually be… cases? (via Videoalex) Swatch example NATO straps Time-shifting was successful OLED iPad Pros will also break the bank Apple 🤝 AWS Retrieval Augmeneted Generation How LLMs work People… write answers for Alexa‽ 🤯 Incase 🤝 Microsoft The Verge article Vision Pro launches 2 February Vision Pro will have 16GB RAM YouTubers will get two demos Apple’s “Get Ready” ad Previously: “Hello” Apple is very particular about how you represent “Vision Pro” Apple is offering Vision Pro demos Apple Vision Pro focal distance? Sponsored by: Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 11 January 2024

568: The Year of Romance

Pre-show: Time-shifting Dave Matthews Band Crew Q&A Follow-up: AI Agita Apple’s paper regarding optimizing on-device LLM Summary by luokai Apple explores AI training deals with news publishers New York Times sues OpenAI & Microsoft for copyright infringement Hard cases make bad law Masimo Mess 26 December: Biden administration does not overturn ban 27 December, 11:55 AM: Ban temporarily paused by US Court of Appeals 27 December, 5:21 PM: Apple Watch sales resumed Apple 2024 Preview PolyCam AirPods 4 Redesign? Side-loading in the EU Post-show: Yearly Themes YouTube video Sponsored by: Notion: Your wiki, docs, and projects. Together. Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 4 January 2024

567: macOS Uranus

Pre-show: Running public sound Automixing Sound Devices Mix Pre-10 II Zoom F8n Zoom LiveTrak L8 Reminder that gift memberships make for a great last-minute gift! Follow-up: iCloud.com login with only a password Apple Store experience (via Morgan Schönberger) More details via Ian Williamson icloud.com/find Joanna Stern’s prison interview Beeper → Beeped Blog post MacRumors Virtualization options for macOS UTM was recommended by serveral, including Luke Channings and Glenn Brown Steve Troughton-Smith’s write-up Is Masimo a patent troll? The Verge article LA Times article from October Apple working on a software workaround? Against Intellectual Monopoly, by Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine Against Intellectual Monopoly (PDF) EVs that [allegedly] satisfy all of Rangachari Anand’s requirements Rick Gore really likes VAG e-tron GT e-tron Q4 e-tron Q8 Daphne Sakellarides suggests the Hyundai Kona Doug Spry reiterates Casey’s pick of the Chevy Bolt Thestrategery recommends the Mini Cooper SE Sam Abuelsamid Honda Prologue Acura ZDX Mercedes EQB Chevy Blazer EV On car controls Volkswagen reneges on all the crummy controls Sam Abuelsamid’s take iPhone 16 “Capture Button” Next Apple Watch breaks band compatibility? 😱 Goole loses antitrust case to Epic Stratechery (Paywalled) #askatp: Do Nvidia & Apple mean different things by the word “core”? (via Ammar) If Apple really does make Siri better, will it land in existing HomePods? (via Ryan McDonough) A complete 🤬 trainwreck of a third #askatp. No spoilers. Hauppage! Post-show Neutral: Marco’s adventure Maxtrax Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Green Chef: The #1 meal kit for eating well. Use code 60atp to get 60% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 26 December 2023

566: Using It Is Wearing It Out

Gift memberships make for great last-minute gifts! Follow-up: Apple devices and OLED burn-in iPhone XS burn-in (via David Gian-Cursio) iPhone 11 Pro burn-in (via Jamieson Weiss) Apple Watch Series 5 & iPhone 13 Pro Max (via Keith) Apple Store diagnostics Stolen Device Protection in iOS 17.3 beta Maybe “trusted locations” is unwise? (via Russell Quinn) How does this work with two-factor? (via Richard Harris) Exceptions to 🇪🇺 battery legislation (via Matthaus Woolard) Vexed has been ported to iOS (App Store link) Apple updates “required reasons” for certain APIs Resetting your only Apple device Apple Halting Sales of Apple Watch Series 9 & Ultra 2 in 🇺🇸 Six Colors Software workaround in the works? Adobe 💔 Figma Old TestFlight data leaked Steve Troughton-Smith Rairii #askatp: What’s the best way to run old versions of OS X in 2023? (via Thom Bullock) VMWare Fusion Parallels VirtualBox Rangachari Anand wants us to find them an EV Requirements Does not have a full glass roof Has a sunroof that opens Has physical HVAC, gear, seat controls Adaptive cruise control CarPlay Gauge cluster (or HUD) Center screen not safety critical Chevy Bolt Kia EV6 IONIQ 5 N BMW i3 How’s Callsheet doing? (via Josiah Katz Upgrade #491: The 2023 Upgradies Apple Design Awards Post-show: The evolution of the App Store awards Sponsored by our wonderful members. Join, and you, too, can enjoy: Unedited bootleg feed, posted as soon as we stop recording Ad-free versions of edited episodes Discounts on our time-limited merchandise sales

Transcribed - Published: 19 December 2023

565: Trickle-Up Concern

Pre-show: Cauterized pants Show administrivia 🎄🕎 NEW MEMBER’S SPECIAL!! 🕎🎄 🎅🏻 Give the gift of ATP! 🎅🏻 Follow-up: More on Apple’s Blue Ocean The 🇪🇺 is doing 🇪🇺 things …and Apple is doing Apple things 📟 Battle Yet more on ECC RAM from Jonathan Dietz Jr. Micron whitepaper US fabs and semiconductor business (via Joe Lion) Sonos Roam audio skipping Report #1 Report #2 Report #3 Report #4 Report #5 How does AWS S3 Glacier store data more cheaply than S3? Photos.app processing tied to… external monitors? 🤨 Governments are spying via push notifications Wyden’s original letter Patriot Act Gruber’s take Apple 🇺🇸 guidelines Apple non-🇺🇸 guidelines Stolen Device Protection Original article by Joanna Stern & Nicole Nguyen Follow-up 9To5Mac explainer #askatp: Are we worried about burn-in on our iPhones? (via Will Leinweber) Does Marco consider embracing Swift & SwiftUI in line with his “extreme minimalism” for libraries? (via Julian Gamble) Do we like the Action Button? (via Torstein) Post-show: Marco’s new desk toy Photo next to an iPhone 15 Pro John’s game: Vexed (also on PalmDB) Marco’s games: Rally 1000 (clone of Mille Bornes) and Hearts AvantGo Toshiba e740 Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Notion: Your wiki, docs, and projects. Together. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 14 December 2023

564: Always Get the Biggest Pizza

Follow-up: Other People’s Code Audio sample Laura Savino’s Talk at CppCon 2023 AirJet cooling a MacBook Air Previously on ATP Keycap replacements at Apple Stores? Apple Stores will price-match? Maybe use KidArt for kid… art? (App Store link) How does Thunderbolt 5 “Bandwidth Boost” work? Idiosyncrasies of ECC RAM Apple 🤝 Amkor Apple 💩-cans 5G modem development? …but there’s always 6G… John’s window-dragging bug continues in 14.2 beta 5 Please fix Find my Friends sharing, Apple Beeper Mini brings iMessage to Android… like, for real for real. 😱 Quinn’s video overview System76 Apple’s Blue Ocean Post-show Neutral: Trip Report ATP Eats: John’s of Bleecker Street Emilio’s Branchinelli’s Sponsored by: Kolide: Ensuring that if a device isn’t secure, it can’t access your apps. It’s Device Trust for Okta. Learn more and watch the demo today. Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any subscription. Green Chef: The #1 meal kit for eating well. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 7 December 2023

563: Drain the Attic

Pre-show: Moving is not fun. Marie Kondo Follow-up: Apple fixes worn keycaps (via Ezekiel Elin) OpenAI Sam Altman Reinstated Five Days of Chaos Tip for buying smart thermostats (via Neil Weinstock) Dominion Energy’s offerings Marco’s many-taps Ecobee Chip packaging Introductory videos on packaging Brief History of Semiconductor Packaging Stacking Dies for Performance & Profit ECC RAM in Apple Silicon (via Grady Borders & Joe Lion) Green bubbles get slightly less 🤢? RCS Yes, still green bubbles SMS & MMS & iMessage Apple extends free 🛰️ emergency services Garmin inReach Thunderbolt 5 C2C caberQU #askatp: Can John take us on a tour of his recommended TVs? (via Gary Owen) Sony A95L Digital Trends review HDTVTest review HDTVTest “Best TV of 2023” test 65” at Amazon LG G3 HDTVTest review 65” at Amazon RTings.com OLED burn-in tests 20 November 2023 5 October 2023 Sony X95L HDTVTest review Digital Trends review 85” on Amazon Sony X90L HDTVTest review Digital Trends review 65” on Amazon Digital Trends best TVs of 2023 Have we ever had iCloud randomly revert a file? (via Stephen Towler) How macOS Sonoma has changed iCloud iCloud Drive in Sonoma: FileProvider and eviction Google Drive has its own “oops” Which apps should be blocked from refreshing in the background? (via Marcos Vinícius Petri) Post-show: Moving is fun. BODi (née BeachBody) Apple Fitness+ Casey’s current program Marco’s trainer Fitbod Couch to Barbell Sponsored by: Notion: Your wiki, docs, & projects. Together. Hatch: Devices to help you sleep better. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 28 November 2023

562: Do You Have a Dragon?

Pre-show: 🚨 LAST CHANCE FOR THE ATP HOLIDAY STORE 🚨 Note: long-sleeve and utes sizes have been added! Follow-up: Keyboard wear Finger grease (via Ryan Holmes) ABS plastic PBT plastic A true horror show (via Andrew) MacBook Pro thermal tests More about chip packaging Johny Srouji interview from July 2023 Timestamp link to clip cited Stratechery with Pat Gelsinger Universal Chiplet Interconnect Express ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED just will not die Stack Overflow question Tailscale’s patch (via Gil Pedersen) Anonymous info QUIC HTTP/3 migrate_sessions_on_network_change SpaceX’s extremely dubious technical choices OpenAI The Verge headlines/coverage Sam Altman fired as CEO of OpenAI Blog post Twitch co-founder Emmett Shear is the new CEO of OpenAI Microsoft hires former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman Hundreds of OpenAI employees threaten to resign and join Microsoft Is Sam Altman joining Microsoft? Satya Nadella doesn’t seem to know Net promoter score #askatp: What ever happened to ECC RAM, now that Apple Silicon is here? (via Tim Schmitz) How do we photograph kid art (via Chris Gleim) Procreate Does tech actually improve our lives? (via Jamie West) Automators #140: LimitLiss Automations with Casey Post-show: Humane ai pin Product launch video TED Talk Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 21 November 2023

561: Market Your Bug

Show Administrivia: 🗣️ THE ATP HOLIDAY STORE IS HERE 🗣️ Note: long-sleeve and utes sizes have been added! 🗣️ NEW MEMBER’S SPECIAL! 🗣️ ATP Dev: Other People’s Code Follow-up: FaceID is also an accessbility affordance (via Todd Scheresky) Uses for 🛢️👃🏻 (via Jamie West) Microwaves The modern knob (via Nate) There’s such a thing as too much (via Kieth Bradnam) Scanning old photos Ryan’s procedure Todd Vaziri’s advice ScanCafe Possible laptop improvments (via Nathaniel Velez) CNET review Mr. Clean Magic Eraser Melamine foam Apple explains dynamic caching (via Gokhan Avkarogullari) Metal Profiling Tools Performance Best Practices for Shaders Memory is now unified within the GPU (via Jonathan Ragan-Kelley) M3 SSD speed vs. M3 Pro SSD speed SSD price graph (via CG) Mac laptops have had the same base RAM since 2017 (via David Schaub) Jobs vs. Cook Marco and Casey’s new laptops MaxTech video on M1 vs. M2 vs. M3 speeds Other Video Transcoding Migration Assistant Thunderbolt 4 Pro Cable Jason’s cursed screenshot #askatp: What is a “neural engine”? (via Richard Levitt) How does the ANE work internally? SIMD MMX How often should bugs on beta OSes be reported? (via Mike Hoffman) ATP #324: Automatic Kicking Machine Is there a way to get Photos.app’s geotag metadata into the actual files? (via Santiago) Post-show: Marco’s hardware adventure Nest Thermostat Ecobee Thermostat Sponsored by: Notion: Your wiki, docs, & projects. Together. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 16 November 2023

560: They're All Rectangles

Pre-show: Marco has discovered knobbed microwaves John’s toaster journey 🗣️ THE ATP HOLIDAY STORE IS HERE 🗣️ Follow-up: Apple Event was “shot on iPhone” Behind the Scenes The Verge’s silly take Stu Maschewitz’s overview David Steer in defense of the M3-plain MacBook Pro Luke Miani’s video Base configs make a difference, according to Ewan Makepeace Still no FaceID (via Tomer Shemesh)? 8 GB RAM has been the MacBook Pro baseline since 2014 Dynamic Caching (via Nitesh Singh) The small-capacity SSDs are better now? Luke Miani Apple Silicon packaging and a potential M3 Ultra F Häusler’s updated diagram AnandTech confirms odd memory quantities (via Cameron McKay) More thoughts from Jonathan Dietz, Jr A new ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED error report has entered the chat MacBook Pro order updates #askatp: How do we manage our physical photos? (via Steven) Why should we care about hardware AV1 decoding? (via Jack Johnson) How do we convince our loved ones to upgrade hardware? (via Christian Heile) Post-show: Humane’s AI pin leaks Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Hatch: Devices to help you sleep better. Kolide: Ensuring that if a device isn’t secure, it can’t access your apps. It’s Device Trust for Okta. Learn more and watch the demo today. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 9 November 2023

559: The Tall Lettuce

Pre-show: Everything’s upside down, so let’s talk fashion. Mack Weldon Ace Sweatpants Relwen Vertical Insulator jacket Apple’s October event Stephen on M1 & M2 Rollout History Oddities between M1 Pro and M3 Pro Johny Srouji interview Annotated die diagrams Post-show: Hypothetical boxed lunches Ken’s Lite Thousand Island Wenzel’s Farm Teriyaki Beef Sticks Sponsored by: Kolide: Ensuring that if a device isn’t secure, it can’t access your apps. It’s Device Trust for Okta. Learn more and watch the demo today. Trade Coffee: Let’s Coffee Better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 31 October 2023

558: Multilevel Pizza Oven

Pre-show: ATP Membership changes Apple price hikes Membership FAQ Want to pay us more? Here’s how! Follow-up: Rivian sounds are based on nature 20k Hz: Auto-Tone Updating iPhones in-box iPhones can be charged through the existing retail box What if the update is downloaded, but not applied? Relevant Apple patent? On M2 vs. M1 Efficiency (via Jonathan Dietz, Jr.) Anand Shimpi on Andru Edwards’ show iTunes Match, Apple Music, and DRM It’s all Panzer’s fault Apple Music gives you iTunes Match, DRM-free (via Sylvan Germer) Getting music onto an iOS device without a computer Custom ringtones (via tact) ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED rumbles on TheJesusFish Stephen Hackett mort Apple Pencil (USB-C) Dan Moren’s Take 9to5Mac Summary Upgrade #482: It’s Covered in Soap! October event Mac OS / Finder logo animation AnandTech on 3nm Chart on Wikipedia AnandTech updates on 3nm Earnings call transcript Everyone talks about their Sonos experiences (this is not #sponcon) Roam (aka John’s Toblerone) Amp Sub (Gen 3) One Era 100 Era 300 Move Five Move 2 Giancarlo Esposito Sonos Voice Control Capabilities Post-show: ATP membership changes Sponsored by: Notion: Your wiki, docs, & projects. Together. AdBlock Pro: Block ads in Safari on iPhone, iPad & Mac. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 26 October 2023

557: The Phone-Box Lottery

We absolutely and unequivocally condemn the murder and kidnapping of innocent civilians. Casey Neistat’s video 🗣️ NEW MEMBER’S SPECIAL 🗣️: ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It Join to listen! Follow-up: Will Kiefer, Rewind.ai’s CTO, has some FU iPhone 15s have a new battery setting Apple knowledge base watchOS optimized charging Why is my Apple Watch not charging to 100%? iPad/iPhone Photo Backups Paid Flickr accounts can do it (via Jonathan Freese) Dropbox for iOS Dan Lithio’s suggestions PhotoSync (App Store link) Google Photos Synology Photos (via René Fouquet) OneDrive Photo Backup (via Ping Lu) Amazon [Prime] Photos (via Chris Cioffi) On Photos remembering crop aspect ratios in 14.1 John’s Docker/Chrome problems 17 June 2019: ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED when Docker networks changed 15 November 2019: ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED is fired when no changes done to the network 29 March 2021: Chromium aborts with ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED even when irrelevant network-interfaces change 29 September 2021: Re-creating a docker container disrupts video call (ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED) Orbstack suggested by Gavin Harris Colima AirPods Pro for hearing protection Upgrade #481: What If… Octobox? Couldn’t handle a monster truck rally Why I Wouldn’t Use AirPods Pro for Hearing Protection Dr. Sameul Levine’s take Apple’s October event: what should be done? Gurman’s report on flashing unopened iPhones #askatp: What focal lengths would we choose for our phones? (via Luke Askwith) Mac Power Users #713: Photography with Tyler Stalman Can one add music on iOS without a computer? (via Nick) How do we protect our Synologies? (via Roch Ripley) Post-show: Unexpected Apple Watch Series 9 improvements Sponsored by: Kolide: Ensuring that if a device isn’t secure, it can’t access your apps. It’s Device Trust for Okta. Learn more and watch the demo today. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Hatch: Devices to help you sleep better. Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 17 October 2023

556: Apple Chips Are People

Follow-up: Overall St. Jude winner: James Neal John’s window bug Polling rate does make a difference Source video Polling rate to window quantity experiment Source video Macs vs. Chromebooks in education (via John Weston & Steve Ligett) Upgrade #480: Never Do a Deal with the Preference Daemon Jason on Apple’s ∞ Permissions Dialogs John gets his Photos.app wish Off-center holes aren’t new Alcantara iPhone cases Alma Casey’s ★★★★☆ iPhone case In defense of the utterly ridiculous Razer phone coolers (via Adam) Peltier effect Revisiting tire pressure management systems (via Mattias Lindblad) Casey’s adventures with stop-charging-at-80% AirPods Pro 2 as concert earplugs Soundbrenner Minuendo Others tried: Eargasm, Etymotic ER20XS, Earpeace, Vibes, Mumba CodaRoom Custom High-Fidelity Earplugs Rewind.ai Pendant We Can Remember It for You Wholesale #askatp: What makes Apple’s designs so much better? (via Buckaroo Ponzi) P.A. Semi Nuvia Acquisition Do we segregate our user data? (via Alfred Flynn) How can an iPad-first user back up their photos? (via Joseph Zoller) Post-show: An optical-disc journey Drive Discs Power Photos Sponsored by: Kolide: Ensuring that if a device isn’t secure, it can’t access your apps. It’s Device Trust for Okta. Learn more and watch the demo today. Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Clean Email: Clean your inbox of emails you don’t need. Then keep it clean. Become a member for ad-free episodes and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 12 October 2023

555: A Very Eventful Day

Pre-show: Marco has thoughts on the FineWoven case CHOCK’s medusa cable Follow-up: John takes us on an adventure FB13211706 — Window dragging is laggy and jumpy when more than one user is logged in Demo video Maybe it’s the video card? What if it’s the mouse? Oh no, the problem is inside the hmouse Maybe Bluetooth will save us? It’s not an Intel thing Seemingly it’s any USB RF mouse? …like, really? It’s not just the one mouse, actually oh no ATP #115: Empathy for the Machine ATP #96: The Windows of Siracusa County Are we the baddies? iPhone 15 Pro is overheating The fix is here Low-cost MacBook rumor Chromebook Adam’s Chromebook eMate 300 #askatp: How thin will phones really get? (via Joe Lion) Do we ever MagSafe charge our MacBooks? (via Chriskast) CalDigit TS4 Are we team light or team dark? (via Jack Mordoj) Noir Post-show: Casey bravely performs an experiment \U0001fae3 Sponsored by: Green Chef: The #1 meal kit for eating well. Use code atp60 for 60% off plus free shipping. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Trade Coffee: Let’s Coffee Better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Become a member for ad-free episodes and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 5 October 2023

554: Is This Your Dog?

Pre-show: Marco is… somewhere unexpected Modern 5G hotspots vs. tethering Casey’s travel router 🤬 cancer. Help sick kids. Donate to St. Jude now. The Marco Offset Podcastathon Part 1 Podcastathon Part 2 Follow-up: John’s PR …and Docker explorations fish iPhone 15 data transfers over USB-C Samuel Polay’s Apple Store experience Chris Jones’ experience USB-A ↔ USB-C adapters (via Eric Merrill) EdgeGate LeakGate Sharp Tech CaseGate Casey’s planned case Anker USB-C cable (the cable that didn’t fit) Umefly USB-C cable (the cable that does fit) Apple silicone case (via Ben Rabicoff) Viticci’s staining Apple Store examples Straps are the answer? (via Gem) Apple & chip binning A17 Pro is powerful but not efficient? Razer Phone Cooler Chroma People, Pets, & Places Initial iPhone reviews Casey’s car in 3× & 5× Goose in 3× & 5× Lenses John’s real bokeh Post-processing an automatic portrait mode photo Casey’s PopSocket Post-show: Marco discovers America Sponsored by: Clean Email: Clean your Inbox of emails you don’t need. Then keep it clean. Become a member for ad-free episodes and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 27 September 2023

553: Cut the Bridges to the Mainland

Pre-show: John’s enhancement requests 🤬 cancer. Help sick kids. Donate to St. Jude now. The Marco Offset ATP Top Four: Laptops. Join to listen! Follow-up: Apple-products-save-your-life video Apple Watch Ultra 2 naming Titanium watches Cost ∆s (via Dan Provost) Warranty (via Doug Miller) Hermès leather straps (via Gruber) Casey’s live adventure Related The Verge article Marco’s option Apple Watch Assistive Touch is from 2021 Apple “blue” over time iPhone 15 Pro & Pro Max repairability helps consumers too iPhone 14 Pro back glass: $499 iPhone 15 Pro back glass: $169 iPhone 15 & 15 Pro cameras 14 Pro 🤝 15 Pro (via Andreas Netzmann) PetaPixel was confused too The arrangement changed iPhone 15 != iPhone 14 Pro 5× Pro Max is 25% larger than the 3× 3× camera has not changed in three years 😱 iPhone 14 Pro can also take 48 MP HEIF images PetaPixel camera review DPReview USB-C begets external display support Apple support document USB-A ↔ C adapters are fire hazards‽ (via Praveen Kankanala) Example iPhone 15 Pro & diffusion bonding (via Robert Newman) iPhone 15/Pro/Max battery life & 3nm Revegnus’ tweet Kal’s tweet Nuvia Lawsuit dropped iPhone 15 Pro & Thread radio Close-up photos of a FineWoven case Similar to Peak Design case? Apple 2030 Apple’s press release on “carbon neutral” (via Josh Angelsberg) Environment FAQ Tim Cook at Apple in 2030 New York Times interview from 2020 Gruber’s post Geekbench 6 Single-core M2 Max: 2,803 Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz: 4,220 Multi-core M2 Ultra: 21,299 Intel Core i9-13900KS 3.2GHz: 29,015 Does Apple make the fastest laptops? Luke Miani Intel’s Meteor Lake CPUs #askatp: How does mp3 chapter images work? (via Joel Labes) The “animated” chapter art was the ending theme song in ATP 244 How does binning work with silicon chips? (via Ammar) Is USB-C’s successor on the horizon? (via Jason Falleiro) Post-show: Rivian follow-up and some interesting hacks Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 23 September 2023

552: Not a Saturated Year

Pre-show: Marco’s Wi-Fi Woes RealPlayer 🤬 cancer. Help sick kids. Donate to St. Jude now. The Marco Offset Apple Event on September 12 System in a Package (SiP) System on a Chip (SoC) Six Colors’ small discoveries GE fuel injector AM article Dr. Drang’s post on iPhone physics Grade 5 titanium iPhone 14 teardown Action button settings UI video Sony Xperia 1 IV Not in the keynote: iOS 17 on 18 September Sonoma on 26 September USB-C Lightning Adapter Apple kills MagSafe Duo & MagSafe Battery pack Post-show: What color is Marco’s car? Sponsored by: Kolide: Ensuring that if a device isn’t secure, it can’t access your apps. It’s Device Trust for Okta. Learn more and watch the demo today. Clean Email: Clean your Inbox of emails you don’t need. Then keep it clean. Become a member for ad-free episodes and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 14 September 2023

551: Tickle Rock You

Pre-show: 🤬 cancer. Help sick kids. Donate to St. Jude now. Follow-up: iPhone 14 Pro 2× vs. cropping a 1× photo iPhone 14 Pro Dynamic Island Flighty Sports Alerts (App Store link) You can update TCL Roku TV via USB (via Pierre-Luc Gagné) Apple Park & garbage cans Apple Event on September 12 WiFi 6 vs. 6E Google Pixel ad Czinger 21C Twill Post-show Neutral: Rivian is canning their ugliest paint option Sponsored by: Kolide: Ensuring that if a device isn’t secure, it can’t access your apps. It’s Device Trust for Okta. Learn more and watch the demo today. Trade Coffee: Let’s Coffee Better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 7 September 2023

550: A Wizard With No Choices

Pre-show: 🤬 cancer. Help sick kids. Donate to St. Jude now. Follow-up: Obscura 4 is out! (App Store link) Alternative TCL TV workarounds (via Chris Berryhill) Child Gmail Accounts Children cannot set up email forwarding (via Henri Sivonen) Child accounts are ripe for recovery issues (via Sriram Karra) Trouble in HomePod paradise iMac G5 perks (via Aaron Walker) Ads on the ATP YouTube channel Truck routing Truck Map has a skip button (via Ezekiel Elin) Garmin sells bespoke truck GPS units (via Jonathan Llamas) Some recommendations (via Andrew Larson) inRoute TomTom/Garmin Apple Event on September 12 Exit Interviews iPhone 14 Watch Ultra Watch Series 8 A special Exit Salute Post-show: Casey’s new vibraslap DS1621+ Western Digital Red 18 TB Sponsored by: Celtreos: An incredible shoot-em-up with 12 stages, a huge soundtrack, and tons of gameplay features!

Transcribed - Published: 1 September 2023

549: Unauthorized Trash Can

Pre-show: Marco’s box truck TruckMap Trucker Path 🗣️ New ATP Membership Survey 🗣️ (This is for everyone, not just members) 🗣️ New member special: ATP Tier List: Every iMac 🗣️ Follow-up: iMac Tier List Intel Core vs. Core 2 ∆s (via Michael Gabriel) Marco claims vindication Core Duo Geekbench 32-bit: 2,327 Core 2 Duo Geekbench 32-bit: 2,423 (4% faster), 64-bit: 2,739 (17% faster) How much faster is “2 Duo” than “Duo”? 21” was (eventually) Retina, writes Max Wilkie More text editors CotEditor (via Taher Rangwala) Chime Pronouncing “Niléane” (and more) Apple can’t design for humans Photo editing on the Mac (via Ezekiel Elin) (•••) ⌘ ⏎ Dumb TV workarounds (also via Ezekiel Elin) Apple, TV+, Disney+, and Games (via Aaron Thomas) Marco’s review of Ubiquiti Security Cameras G5 Bullet Switch Flex Scrypted SecuritySpy #askatp: How do we handle kid e-mail addresses? (via Greg) What are our expectations for subscription apps? (via Michael) How do we prevent losing access to our password managers? (via Denis Čapkovič) Post-show: Marco’s latest gift shipment to Casey Marco’s latest gift shipment to John Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Become a member for ad-free episodes and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Transcribed - Published: 24 August 2023

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