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In Episode 377 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore AI apps and depersonalisation in counselling - looking at how AI tools may risk weakening the therapeutic relationship and the importance of maintaining human connection in therapy. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Jane Godward and Tara Fox about their new book, The Process of Becoming a Counsellor: Navigating the Transformation - discussing the realities of counselling training, personal development, and choosing the right course. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss how to write a personal statement for a counselling course - including what tutors are really looking for and how to present yourself authentically.

Transcribed - Published: 30 May 2026

In Episode 376 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore AI in counselling practice, focusing on understanding informed consent and data use. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Amy Peters about neurodivergent affirming therapy and her new book on working with autistic and ADHD clients. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory, Ken and Paul Cullen discuss whether your therapist can also be your counselling supervisor, exploring the ethical and practical considerations.

Transcribed - Published: 16 May 2026

In Episode 375 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore confidentiality and data privacy in the age of AI, focusing on how counsellors can safely manage client data when using digital tools. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Daragh MacLoughlin about the secrets of a successful website, including how to attract clients ethically and effectively online. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss how counsellors handle disagreements with colleagues, with insights on navigating conflict professionally during training and beyond.

Transcribed - Published: 9 May 2026

In Episode 374 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore AI and the therapeutic relationship - looking at how clients are using AI, the risks involved, and how therapists can respond ethically. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Jonathan Drury about the Autism Dialogue Approach - examining neurodiversity, communication, and how therapists can work more collaboratively and equitably. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss managing anxiety about counselling training - normalising the experience and offering strategies to navigate it.

Transcribed - Published: 2 May 2026

In Episode 373 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore defensible decision making in relation to using technology and AI in counselling practice. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Erene Hadjiioannou about new 2026 guidance on police requests for counselling notes and what this means for client confidentiality and therapeutic work. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory, Ken, and Sarah Henry discuss balancing time and training — the realities, expectations, and challenges of being a counselling student.

Transcribed - Published: 25 April 2026

In Episode 372 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore understanding AI categories in counselling practice, examining the different types of AI tools counsellors may encounter and why understanding these distinctions is essential for ethical and safe client work. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with therapist and journalist Matt Hussey about the future of therapy in the age of AI and how technology may reshape mental health support. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss agency reports in counselling training - what they are, why they matter, and how they contribute to assessing a trainee counsellor's readiness for professional practice.

Transcribed - Published: 18 April 2026

In Episode 371 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly explore three key topics relevant to counsellors and counselling students. Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they introduce the emerging conversation around AI in counselling, exploring whether therapists are being left behind and how practitioners can engage with AI ethically. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Jessica Wing about preparing to meet your very first client, sharing insights to help students transition from classroom practice to real therapeutic work. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken clarify the difference between humanism and person-centred therapy, a common area of confusion for counselling students studying theoretical models.

Transcribed - Published: 11 April 2026

In Episode 370 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: ·        Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore grounding techniques in counselling practice, highlighting key techniques every counsellor should know and why these skills are essential for safe, trauma-informed work. ·        Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Bernie Wright and Lisa Smith about ARFID (Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder) – what it is, how it presents, and why it is often misunderstood, particularly in neurodivergent individuals. ·        And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory, Ken and Paul Cullen discuss how to find your first supervisor – what to look for, what questions to ask, and why the supervisory relationship matters so much in your development.

Transcribed - Published: 21 March 2026

In Episode 369 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore working with shame in the therapy room – how shame presents, how it differs from guilt, and how to work with it gently and ethically. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Nadine Pittam about limerence – a powerful and often overwhelming state of obsessive romantic attachment – and how therapists can work safely and effectively with clients experiencing it. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss what to do when you feel out of your depth as a counselling student, offering reassurance, practical guidance, and encouragement.

Transcribed - Published: 14 March 2026

In Episode 368 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly guide you through three key areas of counselling practice, learning, and development. In Ethical, Sustainable Practice, Rory and Ken explore when media coverage enters the counselling room, examining how major reporting on trauma and abuse can increase client contact and shape presentations. In Practice Matters, Rory is interviewed by Sarah Henry about his latest CPD lecture on attachment, exploring why attachment theory is central to therapeutic work. And in Student Services, Rory and Ken discuss the role of check-ins and check-outs in counselling training, and why these processes matter far beyond the classroom.

Transcribed - Published: 7 March 2026

In Episode 367 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly explore three timely and important topics for counsellors, psychotherapists, and students. Firstly, in Ethical, Sustainable Practice, Rory and Ken explore talking to clients about AI in therapy, discussing the growing presence of artificial intelligence (AI) in clients' lives and why therapists need to address the risks, ethics, and boundaries of AI use within the therapeutic contract. Then, in Practice Matters, Rory is joined by Andrew Kidd for the second part of their conversation on EMDR, focusing on the functional model and how EMDR works in practice to help clients reprocess trauma. Finally, in Student Services, Rory and Ken unpack a common source of confusion for trainees: when you actually become "qualified" as a counsellor, and how this differs from accreditation and employability.

Transcribed - Published: 28 February 2026

In Episode 366 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we examine the new police guidance on accessing counselling records – essential listening if you work with trauma or abuse. Then, in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Lisa Williams on integrating genograms and social graces to enhance self-awareness and deepen the therapeutic relationship. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken explore fitness to practise - what it means, how to get signed off, and what to do if you're struggling with that final hurdle.

Transcribed - Published: 14 February 2026

In Episode 365 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we ask: when is it the right time to train as a supervisor? Rory and Ken, joined by Paul Cullen, explore motivations, timing, and expectations for moving into this advanced professional role. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Sally-Anne Armitage, who returns to share creative supervision techniques that can enrich both supervisory and client practice. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken respond to a common concern from placement practitioners - how to talk to clients about being a trainee counsellor while maintaining confidence and clarity.

Transcribed - Published: 7 February 2026

In Episode 364 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we explore the question 'Will AI Replace Counsellors and Psychotherapists?', examining how AI is currently used in mental health care and what this might mean for the future of the profession. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Mahmoud Ahmed about his newly published book A New Introduction to Counselling and Psychotherapy, which calls for embedding diversity, equity, and context at the heart of practice. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken explore what happens when your counselling course ends but your placement hours are incomplete – offering guidance on how to stay motivated and complete the journey.

Transcribed - Published: 31 January 2026

In Episode 363 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we explore choosing the right online tech for counselling, highlighting how equipment and setup affect professionalism and therapeutic presence. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Caroline Evers-Endacott about working with alcohol, problem drinking, and recovery pathways – emphasising how therapists can work ethically and effectively with clients navigating addiction. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken offer guidance on how to manage long breaks between counselling training levels, including tips for maintaining motivation, skills, and learning during study gaps.

Transcribed - Published: 24 January 2026

In Episode 362 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we explore working with clients who have a psychiatric diagnosis, considering how to approach this work ethically, including navigating risk, understanding medication, and maintaining person-centred care. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory catches up with Alex Gulland, a year after she qualified, to hear what the transition from student to practitioner has really been like – from building a client base to discovering a passion for equine-assisted therapy. And finally in 'Student Services', Ken and Rory explore how to protect client confidentiality when writing case studies – including anonymisation techniques and data protection guidance. Sarah Henry joins to share her frontline insights into balancing academic and ethical responsibilities.

Transcribed - Published: 17 January 2026

In Episode 361 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly explore three vital topics for students and practitioners of counselling and psychotherapy: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', Rory and Ken examine managing isolation in counselling practice, highlighting why counsellors may experience isolation, the impact of emotional labour, and the importance of maintaining professional connections. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with psychotherapist Claire Ratcliffe about the subtle but essential distinction between feeling safe and being safe in therapy, and what this means for clients and therapeutic practice. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken offer practical guidance on how to reference non-academic resources in academic assignments.

Transcribed - Published: 10 January 2026

In Episode 360 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore the inevitable ruptures that can occur in the therapeutic relationship - and how recognising and repairing these moments builds resilience and strengthens the alliance. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Ian Long, illustrator and co-creator of the iconic Blob Tree, about the origins, evolution, and global impact of these powerful visual tools in therapy and education. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken rethink transference in person-centred therapy, offering insight into how these dynamics show up during training and why they matter - even outside of client work.

Transcribed - Published: 3 January 2026

Supporting Therapists and Clients Through Peri and Post Menopause - Door Knobbing in Counselling In Episode 359 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, they explore getting over cancellation guilt, looking at what therapist cancellation guilt means, why it arises, and how to approach it with compassion and professionalism. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Ruth Hill about supporting therapists and clients through perimenopause and post menopause - challenging outdated views and reframing this life stage as one of growth, not decline. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken discuss the phenomenon of doorknobbing - those last-minute disclosures from clients - and how to respond ethically and sensitively in practice. Getting Over Cancellation Guilt [starts at 03:09 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explore getting over cancellation guilt, examining the emotional impact on therapists when they must cancel sessions and offering compassionate strategies to reframe the experience. Key points discussed include: Cancellation guilt is a common emotional experience, especially when sessions are called off at short notice. Ethically, prioritising self-care supports safer practice and protects the therapeutic relationship. Cancelling when unwell models healthy boundaries and gives clients permission to do the same. Communication is key - offer reassurance, alternative times, and avoid oversharing to prevent client worry. Contracting for cancellations upfront can reduce confusion and help manage expectations. Use supervision to explore guilt, recognise blind spots, and develop resilience in responding to these scenarios. Supporting Therapists and Clients Through Peri and Post Menopause [starts at 21:57 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Ruth Hill, REBT therapist and sports scientist, who shares insights from her CPD lecture on menopause and its implications for therapy. Key points from this conversation include: Menopause is often overlooked, under-celebrated, or medicalised - yet it is a significant life stage deserving validation. Therapists must reframe menopause as a natural transition rather than a deficit or decline. Ruth highlights how REBT and the ABCDE model can help clients challenge perfectionism and internalised stigma. Brain rewiring during menopause affects cognitive and emotional functioning - requiring compassion, not self-blame. The therapy space should allow for honest dialogue, normalising experiences like brain fog or hot flushes without shame. Menopause also affects therapists - being human and modelling acceptance benefits both client and practitioner. Door Knobbing in Counselling [starts at 45:39 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explore ‘door knobbing’ - when clients make significant disclosures just before leaving a session - and how practitioners can navigate this with care. Key points include: A doorknob comment is typically a serious or emotionally charged disclosure made at the end of a session. Clients may use this as a safety mechanism, dropping difficult truths when time is limited. Therapists should hold the client emotionally and assess immediate risk if necessary. Revisit doorknob comments in the next session with sensitivity - offer choice, don’t impose an agenda. Supervision is essential when managing potential safeguarding issues or feeling overwhelmed. Know agency policies and procedures - particularly for harm to self or others - and act accordingly. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 13 December 2025

In Episode 359 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore getting over cancellation guilt, looking at what therapist cancellation guilt means, why it arises, and how to approach it with compassion and professionalism. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Ruth Hill about supporting therapists and clients through perimenopause and post menopause - challenging outdated views and reframing this life stage as one of growth, not decline. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss the phenomenon of doorknobbing - those last-minute disclosures from clients - and how to respond ethically and sensitively in practice.

Transcribed - Published: 13 December 2025

The Horn Effect and Autism – Don’t Lose You in Counselling Training In Episode 358 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly explore this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we discuss letting go of the outcome in counselling - why embracing client autonomy matters. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Paula Jones about the Horn Effect and autism - how unconscious bias can shape perceptions of neurodivergent individuals. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken explore not losing yourself in counselling training - staying authentic while growing through your studies. Letting Go of the Outcome in Counselling [starts at 03:18 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explore how holding on to an expected outcome can compromise client autonomy and therapeutic presence, highlighting the importance of letting go of the outcome in counselling. Key points discussed include: Fixating on a client’s outcome may cause the therapist to override the client’s direction or autonomy. Therapy is not linear - clients may change goals or progress in unexpected ways. The BACP and NCPS frameworks emphasise client autonomy and non-directive practice. Supervisors play a key role in helping counsellors identify when they’re steering the process. Letting go involves being mindful, present, and trusting the client’s self-directed journey. Progress may be subtle or delayed; the therapist’s role is to offer presence, not direction. The Horn Effect and Autism [starts at 28:48 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Paula Jones, a neurodivergent leadership consultant and coach, about the Horn Effect and how unconscious bias impacts perceptions of neurodivergent clients. Key points from this conversation include: The Horn Effect is a cognitive bias where one perceived negative trait skews the entire perception of a person. Neurodivergent individuals often experience quick, unjustified judgements in professional and social settings. Misunderstandings can arise from masking, directness, or non-normative behaviours. Paula highlights the need for neurodivergent-sensitive intake processes and safe, accepting therapeutic spaces. Therapists should be aware of their own unconscious biases and create space for clients to be themselves. The interview includes powerful personal experiences and practical suggestions for inclusive practice. Don’t Lose You in Counselling Training [starts at 58:43 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explore how training can challenge students’ sense of self and how to stay grounded through the process. Key points include: Students may feel they need to become someone else to be a good counsellor. Counselling training can feel intense - it's important to maintain perspective. True personal growth enhances who you are rather than replacing your identity. Authenticity is key - it's okay to be yourself and still be professional. Supervision and personal therapy support students in processing and integrating their development. Sarah Henry joins to share insights on navigating authenticity and maintaining your core self during training. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 6 December 2025

In Episode 358 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly explore this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we discuss letting go of the outcome in counselling - why embracing client autonomy matters. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Paula Jones about the Horn Effect and autism - how unconscious bias can shape perceptions of neurodivergent individuals. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken explore not losing yourself in counselling training - staying authentic while growing through your studies.

Transcribed - Published: 6 December 2025

Maximising Your Website Presence – Should Counselling Students Pay for a Placement? In Episode 357 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we discuss what to do when your usual supervisor isn’t available. In planning for alternative supervision cover, we explore how to ensure you stay ethical and supported during supervisor absences. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Daragh Mac Loughlin from WebHealer about how to maximise your website presence and build a joined-up online identity across web and social platforms. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken address a hot topic - should counselling students pay for a placement? With insight from Paul Cullen, they look at fairness, value for money, and what to consider if faced with this scenario. Planning for Alternative Supervision Cover [starts at 03:33 mins] Having a backup plan for supervision is crucial - this segment explores how to stay compliant, safe, and client-focused when your supervisor is unexpectedly absent. As part of planning for alternative supervision cover, it’s important to know where to turn if you suddenly need short-term or emergency support. You are ethically required to maintain regular supervision, even during supervisor absences. Consider forming a plan ahead of time for temporary, short-term, or emergency supervision cover. Replacement supervisors should match your client group, modality, and level of risk. Peer consultations can be useful for support, but do not replace formal supervision. Review your ethical body’s rules - students especially must ensure their hours are counted. For counsellors looking for reliable supervision options — including temporary or emergency cover — you can explore a directory of qualified online supervisors at Counselling Tutor's Supervisor Directory Maximising Your Website Presence [starts at 31:42 mins] Daragh Mac Loughlin from WebHealer shares expert tips for creating a strong, connected online presence that builds trust and converts browsers into clients. First impressions count - use a clear, current photo and accessible language to build trust. Align your website and social platforms to create a consistent and professional digital identity. Keep your website fresh with long-form content, updates, and CPD reflections. Use short-form social media posts to lead traffic to your more in-depth website content. Monitor performance with tools like Microsoft Clarity to track user behaviour and optimise engagement. Treat your website as a living tool, not a one-time setup - invest time in nurturing it. Should Counselling Students Pay for a Placement? [starts at 57:41 mins] This contentious issue is explored with input from Paul Cullen - looking at whether charging for placements is fair, ethical, or ever appropriate. Some charities ask students to pay fees to cover clinical leads or provide additional training. Students should ask what’s included - DBS checks, supervision, insurance, or CPD. Placements should offer proper triage to allocate clients within a student’s competency. Be mindful that fees could exclude passionate students without financial means. Students are assets, bringing enthusiasm and current theory - placements also benefit from them. Always check the value of what’s offered and weigh up if it supports your learning journey. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 29 November 2025

In Episode 357 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in Ethical, Sustainable Practice, we discuss what to do when your usual supervisor isn't available. In planning for alternative supervision cover, we explore how to ensure you stay ethical and supported during supervisor absences.  Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Daragh Mac Loughlin from WebHealer about how to maximise your website presence and build a joined-up online identity across web and social platforms. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken address a hot topic - should counselling students pay for a placement? With insight from Paul Cullen, they look at fairness, value for money, and what to consider if faced with this scenario.

Transcribed - Published: 29 November 2025

EMDR: A 21st-Century Approach to Trauma – AI and Plagiarism in Counselling Training In Episode 356 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, they explore the sensitive topic of lying in therapy, examining why clients may lie or conceal information through a trauma-informed perspective and how therapists can respond with compassion. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Andrew Kidd about EMDR therapy - what it is, how it works, and why it's considered a cutting-edge 21st-century therapeutic intervention. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken discuss the rising concern of AI and plagiarism in counselling training, including guidance for ethical use and how assessment may evolve. Lying in Therapy [starts at 03:11 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken examine lying in therapy, unpacking the nuances behind client dishonesty and offering guidance on how therapists can navigate concealment with empathy. Key points discussed include: Lying in therapy is common and often rooted in past trauma or a need to protect the self. Concealment may serve as a survival mechanism shaped by earlier life experiences. Incongruence between a client’s words and behaviours can be gently explored without judgement. Strong therapeutic relationships and non-judgemental approaches create safety for honesty to emerge. Therapists are often not adept at detecting lies - emphasis should be placed on understanding behaviour rather than catching deception. Dishonesty can signal areas of deep pain; responding with curiosity rather than confrontation is key. EMDR: A 21st-Century Approach to Trauma [starts at 23:40 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Andrew Kidd, BACP senior accredited counsellor and EMDR Europe accredited practitioner, about EMDR as a powerful method for trauma reprocessing. Key points from this conversation include: EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing) originated in 1987 and integrates neurobiological and relational approaches. It is not a talk therapy but an experiential, highly structured method using bilateral stimulation (e.g. eye movements). The eight-phase protocol includes history taking, preparation, activation, desensitisation, installation, body scan, closure, and re-evaluation. EMDR enables clients to process traumatic memories without needing to disclose every detail to the therapist. Training is intensive and requires therapists to already be accredited and trauma-informed. Andrew will be offering an EMDR overview lecture inside the Counsellor CPD Library soon. EMDR Association UK AI and Plagiarism in Counselling Training [starts at 52:34 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken discuss the impact of AI tools like ChatGPT on assignment writing and how to ethically and responsibly integrate technology into counselling education. Key points include: Assignments must be students’ own work - AI-generated content must be clearly acknowledged and referenced. AI can be used as a planning or brainstorming tool, not as a substitute for personal reflection or lived experience. Joint Council for Qualifications (JCQ) guidance outlines AI use as malpractice if not transparently declared. Reflective and experiential elements of counselling training cannot be replicated by AI. Tutors are encouraged to explore diverse assessment methods beyond written essays to evaluate learning authentically. Academic correspondent Sarah Henry shares how relational, discussion-based, and observational assessment can complement or replace traditional formats. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 22 November 2025

In Episode 356 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore the sensitive topic of lying in therapy, examining why clients may lie or conceal information through a trauma-informed perspective and how therapists can respond with compassion. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Andrew Kidd about EMDR therapy - what it is, how it works, and why it's considered a cutting-edge 21st-century therapeutic intervention. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss the rising concern of AI and plagiarism in counselling training, including guidance for ethical use and how assessment may evolve.

Transcribed - Published: 22 November 2025

The Cost of Caring with Ona Clark – Client Desires, Therapist Boundaries - Erotic Transference Explored In Episode 355 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, they discuss the importance of having a clinical will - why it matters, what it should include, and how it upholds your ethical responsibilities. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Ona Clark about the cost of caring - highlighting the emotional, financial, and systemic barriers that many face when training to become a counsellor. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken explore erotic transference - how to recognise it, work with it ethically, and maintain clear professional boundaries. The Importance of a Clinical Will [starts at 03:36 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken unpack the ethical and legal reasons for having a clinical will and how it ensures continuity of care for clients. Key points discussed include: A clinical will ensures that clients are treated ethically and professionally in the event of a therapist’s death or incapacitation. Ethical frameworks now state that therapists should have a clinical will - it’s no longer optional. The document designates an executor (often a peer or supervisor) who can securely manage client data and provide closure for clients. Therapists must include clear details about client records, contracts, supervision, and how information is stored and accessed. Loved ones and supervisors should be informed of the will’s existence and who the executor is. Clinical wills uphold confidentiality, legal compliance, and demonstrate professional responsibility. The Cost of Caring with Ona Clark [starts at 34:07 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with neurodivergent counsellor and advocate Ona Clark, who shares her personal and professional reflections on the hidden costs of becoming a therapist. Key points from this conversation include: Training to become a counsellor carries hidden financial burdens - from personal therapy and unpaid placements, to travel and supervision. These costs disproportionately affect students from lower-income and underrepresented backgrounds. Ona highlights the additional emotional labour experienced by Black and minoritised trainees, often working harder to feel seen and heard. Mental health impacts of financial strain include burnout, anxiety, and difficulty engaging in personal development. Greater funding, policy reform, and access to therapy for counsellors are needed to build a more inclusive profession. Ona’s campaign “The Cost of Caring” calls for structural change - raising awareness and seeking support through petition and advocacy. Ona also writes thoughtfully about the experiences of survivors in her article, Beyond the Silence: 8 Things Survivors Need from Counsellors — exploring how therapists can create spaces of safety, empathy, and understanding in their work. Plus, she is featured in the latest issue of the National Counselling & Psychotherapy Society (NCPS) magazine, where she expands on themes of neurodivergence, grief support and mental-health advocacy. Client Desires, Therapist Boundaries – Erotic Transference Explored [starts at 58:35 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explore the complex phenomenon of erotic transference and how therapists can respond ethically and professionally. Key points include: Erotic transference refers to romantic or sexual feelings a client may develop toward their therapist - often rooted in earlier attachment patterns or unmet emotional needs such as validation or closeness. The term was coined by Sigmund Freud in the early 20th century (c. 1912–1915), who described it as Übertragungsliebe - a sexualised form of transference not to be gratified, but analysed within therapy.

Transcribed - Published: 15 November 2025

In Episode 355 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they discuss the importance of having a clinical will - why it matters, what it should include, and how it upholds your ethical responsibilities. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Ona Clark about the cost of caring - highlighting the emotional, financial, and systemic barriers that many face when training to become a counsellor. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken explore erotic transference - how to recognise it, work with it ethically, and maintain clear professional boundaries.

Transcribed - Published: 15 November 2025

Draft BACP Ethical Framework for 2025 – REBT: Clear Definitions In Episode 354 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we explore the draft BACP Ethical Framework for 2025 - highlighting key proposed changes and what they might mean for practitioners. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Ruth Hill about REBT – Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy – offering clear definitions and practical insights for working with beliefs and emotional responsibility. And finally in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken discuss how to navigate personal triggers in counselling training - and why these moments offer powerful opportunities for growth. Draft BACP Ethical Framework for 2025 [starts at 03:29 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken discuss the new draft of the BACP Ethical Framework and how it reflects the evolving nature of therapeutic practice. Key points discussed include: The draft framework is currently under consultation and is expected to be finalised in late 2026. It reflects major societal and professional shifts since 2018, including online work, AI, and anti-oppressive practice. The updated framework introduces a clearer, more directive tone - replacing “should” with “must” in many areas. There is a new emphasis on relationships and collaboration, moving away from a purely rules-based approach. Key ethical principles have been rephrased in simpler language to improve clarity and accessibility. Practitioners are encouraged to engage with the framework, reflect on its implications, and prepare for its rollout. Draft BACP Ethical Framework 2025 BACP Ethical Framework 2018 Comparing the BACP Ethical Framework 2018 and 2025 REBT: Clear Definitions [starts at 29:04 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with integrative REBT (Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy) therapist Ruth Hill about her CPD lecture on REBT and how the model supports emotional responsibility and belief change. Key points from this conversation include: REBT is founded on the principle that we are disturbed not by events, but by our beliefs about those events. It encourages clients to take ownership of their emotions by identifying and challenging unhealthy beliefs. The ABCDE model is used to explore activating events, beliefs, consequences, disputes, and emotional effects. Healthy emotions are distinguished from unhealthy ones - supporting clients to feel appropriately without becoming overwhelmed. Disputing techniques help clients develop flexible, reality-based, and empowering alternative beliefs. The ultimate aim is for clients to become their own REBT therapists - building resilience and autonomy. Personal Triggers in Counselling Training [starts at 52:17 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken reflect on how personal triggers in counselling training can emerge and how to manage them constructively. Key points include: Triggers are emotional responses often rooted in past experiences, activated by present-day stimuli. Training environments can unintentionally bring up difficult material - through discussions, peers, or course content. Recognising a trigger is the first step in managing it - grounding techniques and mindfulness can be useful in the moment. Reflection, journaling, and seeking supervision or personal therapy can support deeper processing and growth. Triggers are not a sign of weakness; they offer valuable opportunities for personal and professional development. Tutors and peers can provide compassionate support - creating a safer learning space for everyone involved. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource

Transcribed - Published: 8 November 2025

In Episode 354 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we explore the draft BACP Ethical Framework for 2025 - highlighting key proposed changes and what they might mean for practitioners. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Ruth Hill about REBT – Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy – offering clear definitions and practical insights for working with beliefs and emotional responsibility. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss how to navigate personal triggers in counselling training - and why these moments offer powerful opportunities for growth.

Transcribed - Published: 8 November 2025

In this special edition of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes is joined by Dr. Liz Nicholl, Qualifications Development Manager at CPCAB, for an in-depth discussion on the newly relaunched Level 5 Diploma in Psychotherapeutic Counselling. They explore how the qualification aligns with the SCoPEd framework (specifically Column B), what it offers learners beyond Level 4, and how it supports safe, ethical, and inclusive practice in increasingly complex counselling environments. Key Takeaways: The Level 5 Diploma in Psychotherapeutic Counselling has been revised to meet SCoPEd Column B competencies, ensuring alignment with professional accreditation routes such as BACP and NCPS. The course supports a smooth transition from Level 4 to independent or senior agency practice, with a strong emphasis on ethical decision-making and professional accountability. Key learning outcomes include skills in managing complexity, recognising risk (e.g. suicide, self-harm), and developing policies and contracts for private practice. Cultural humility and awareness of social, cultural, and biological diversity are embedded through critically reflective assessment tasks and resources like the RACE Toolkit and the Churchill Framework. Outcome measures such as CORE-10 and PHQ-9 are introduced as relational tools for client assessment, with practical classroom training on how to use them ethically and effectively across modalities. Research literacy is a central theme, with learners encouraged to critically engage with peer-reviewed articles, integrate findings into practice, and consider conducting their own research to inform future client work. If you’d like to find out more about the CPCAB Level 5 Diploma in Psychotherapeutic Counselling (PC-L5), here are a few helpful links to explore: Level 5 Diploma in Psychotherapeutic Counselling (PC-L5) - CPCAB Download PC-L5 mapped to SCoPEd Column B - CPCAB Download PC-L5 Specification - CPCAB Download PC-L5 Tutor Guide - CPCAB Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 1 November 2025

In this special edition of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes is joined by Dr Liz Nicholl, Qualifications Development Manager at CPCAB, for an in-depth discussion on the newly relaunched Level 5 Diploma in Psychotherapeutic Counselling. They explore how the qualification aligns with the SCoPEd framework (specifically Column B), what it offers learners beyond Level 4, and how it supports safe, ethical, and inclusive practice in increasingly complex counselling environments.

Transcribed - Published: 1 November 2025

Relational Safeguards in AI Tools – Making Sense of Frame of Reference In Episode 353 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we look at where autism meets attachment, understanding autism and attachment difficulties – and how similarities and overlaps in presentation can be misinterpreted and what this means for therapists. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Meg Moss, Head of Policy and Public Affairs at the NCPS, about relational safeguards in AI mental health tools – a timely discussion for any practitioner using or considering AI in practice. And finally in ‘Student Services’, our correspondent Sarah Henry joins Rory to make sense of frame of reference – a foundational concept in person-centred therapy. Understanding Autism and Attachment Difficulties [starts at 03:25 mins] Understanding how autism and attachment difficulties can look similar – and why it matters. Autism and attachment differences often share surface-level presentations but stem from very different origins. Autism is a neurodevelopmental condition present from early childhood; attachment issues develop due to early relational disruptions. Tools like the Coventry Grid can support clinical thinking without being diagnostic. Practitioners are encouraged to adopt a trauma-informed and neurodivergence-informed stance. Holding dialogical thinking – entertaining multiple possible truths – helps prevent assumptions. Therapists should focus on offering safe, supportive spaces without attempting to diagnose. Relational Safeguards in AI Tools [starts at 26:17 mins] Meg Moss, Head of Policy and Public Affairs at the NCPS, outlines ethical principles for using AI tools in counselling and mental health. AI tools are increasingly used for mental health support but often lack relational, ethical safeguards. The NCPS has published six key principles to guide ethical AI integration in therapeutic settings. Key concerns include containment, autonomy, beginnings/endings, and ensuring tools are adjunctive – not replacements for therapy. Many AI tools give the appearance of relational care without actual therapeutic depth or safety. Therapists should be aware of how clients engage with AI and support them in critically evaluating these tools. The NCPS policy helps ensure therapy remains human-centred amidst technological advancement. Read more about the NCPS campaign, Therapeutic Relationships: The Human Connection Making Sense of Frame of Reference [starts at 00:52:52 mins] Exploring the importance and challenges of truly understanding another’s worldview. Frame of reference describes how each individual uniquely experiences and interprets the world. Counsellors must learn to set aside their own worldview to meet clients where they are. Misjudging or assuming sameness in frame of reference can block empathy and insight. Training involves both recognising our own filters and appreciating the lived realities of others. Sarah Henry emphasises that true empathic understanding begins with acknowledging what we don’t know. This skill develops over time and is central to ethical, effective therapeutic relationships. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 25 October 2025

In Episode 353 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we look at where autism meets attachment, understanding autism and attachment difficulties – and how similarities and overlaps in presentation can be misinterpreted and what this means for therapists. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Meg Moss, Head of Policy and Public Affairs at the NCPS, about relational safeguards in AI mental health tools – a timely discussion for any practitioner using or considering AI in practice. And finally in 'Student Services', our correspondent Sarah Henry joins Rory to make sense of frame of reference – a foundational concept in person-centred therapy.

Transcribed - Published: 25 October 2025

Grandparent Alienation - Navigating Challenges with Tutors In Episode 352 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we explore the nuances of switching supervisors, including when change is necessary and how to manage transitions ethically and professionally. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Dr. Suzanne Degges-White about the deeply emotional issue of grandparent alienation – a growing concern with long-term implications for clients and families. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken address how to navigate challenges with tutors, a topic frequently raised by students facing difficulties in training environments. Talking Honestly About Switching Supervisors [starts at 03:15 mins] This section explores when and why counsellors might consider switching supervisors and how to approach this decision ethically and with confidence. Key points discussed include: Changing supervisors is a natural part of a counsellor’s development and not a sign of failure or disloyalty. Repetition without growth, lack of freshness, or misalignment in specialisms can indicate it’s time for a change. A managed ending ensures continuity of supervision and safeguards ethical standards. Discussing the transition with your current supervisor can lead to supportive and mutual decisions. Paul Cullen, Counselling Tutor’s supervision correspondent, shares insights on how supervisors and supervisees can navigate this change with openness and courage. Reflective questions can help assess supervision fit, such as: Is this relationship still supporting my professional growth? Grandparent Alienation [starts at 36:04 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Dr. Suzanne Degges-White, who shares her research and clinical insights into grandparent alienation – when grandparents are cut off from contact with their grandchildren. Key points from this conversation include: Grandparent alienation often arises from fractured relationships between adult children and their parents. Political differences, perceived abuse, and societal changes are common triggers. The loss experienced is often ambiguous, ongoing, and filled with grief and shame. Children also suffer developmental and emotional consequences when denied access to grandparents. Therapists can support clients by validating loss, helping reconstruct identity, and working with meaning-making and boundaries. Intergenerational healing is possible through empathy, family therapy, and creating new ways to maintain symbolic connections. Further reading: • “The Painful Experiences of Alienated Grandparents” (Psychology Today) — provides qualitative insights into the lived experience of being a grandparent cut off from grandchildren. psychologytoday.com • “Grandparent Report (November 2024)” (Kirklees Safeguarding Children) — explores the challenges grandparents face in maintaining relationships with grandchildren and offers recommendations for support. kirkleessafeguardingchildren.co.uk • “Why Grandparent Alienation Is a Loss Unlike Any Other” (Psychology Today) — examines the emotional impact and family dynamics surrounding grandparent alienation. psychologytoday.com • “13 Tactics Families Use to Alienate Grandparents” (Psychology Today) — outlines common behaviours that contribute to alienation and ways to recognise them. psychologytoday.com • “Contact with Your Grandchild if Their Parents Divorce or Separate” (UK Government Guidance) — outlines legal rights, contact options, and available support for grandparents. gov.uk Journal article: Degges-White, S., Hermann-Turner, K., Kepic, M., Randolph, A., & Killam, W. (2024). Grandparent Alienation: A Mixed Method Exploration of Life Satisfaction and Help-Seeking Experiences of Grandparents Alienated From...

Transcribed - Published: 18 October 2025

In Episode 352 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we explore the nuances of switching supervisors, including when change is necessary and how to manage transitions ethically and professionally. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Dr. Suzanne Degges-White about the deeply emotional issue of grandparent alienation – a growing concern with long-term implications for clients and families. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken address how to navigate challenges with tutors, a topic frequently raised by students facing difficulties in training environments.

Transcribed - Published: 18 October 2025

Counselling, Class and Politics - Linking Theory to Practice In Episode 351 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, they explore the concept of moral injury in therapy - how it shows up in the therapy room and how to work with it ethically and compassionately. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with counselling student and writer Nell Ash, whose upcoming book addresses how class and politics influence both therapy and training. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken discuss how to link theory to practice - bridging what you learn in the classroom with what happens in real-life therapy sessions. Moral Injury in Therapy [starts at 03:06 mins] Rory and Ken explore moral injury in therapy - a hidden, yet powerful emotional wound that often emerges in counselling work. Some main points: Moral injury occurs when individuals act in ways that go against their own values, often under pressure or in crisis. Recognised in the DSM as related to PTSD, but not considered a disorder in itself. It can originate from external impositions (e.g. institutional decisions) or internal choices that evoke shame or regret. Clients often don’t present moral injury directly - it may be masked by anger, withdrawal, or self-condemnation. Therapists must use patience, trauma-informed approaches, and supervision to support clients experiencing moral injury. Key interventions include validating the experience, reframing, normalising responses, and helping clients reconnect with their values. Counselling, Class and Politics [starts at 28:27 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Nell Ash, a trainee counsellor and writer exploring class as an often-ignored factor in therapeutic work. Key points of this discussion: Nell’s forthcoming book is the first since Ann Kearney’s 1996 work to tackle class and politics in therapy. Class is often defined economically, but Nell argues it is deeply cultural and emotional - shaping how people relate, express, and seek support. She highlights how counselling models often reflect middle-class values, which can alienate working-class clients. The conversation critiques therapeutic "saviourism" and urges a move toward greater class awareness and inclusivity. Humour, family dynamics, and language use in working-class communities are often misunderstood or pathologised in therapy. Nell’s project advocates for broader training perspectives and more accurate “mirrors” for clients from diverse class backgrounds. Linking Theory to Practice [starts at 00:55:00 mins] Rory and Ken share guidance for students working to apply counselling theory in real-life client sessions. Main points for this section: Theories offer helpful frameworks, but clients won’t always present in textbook ways. True understanding of theory often deepens during and after client work - not just in the classroom. Assignments and supervision benefit from using theory as a vocabulary for reflecting on client material. Clients are not research subjects - focus on the person, not fitting them into a theoretical model. Theory should support, not override, therapeutic presence and attunement. With time and experience, theory becomes an integrated part of practice rather than a separate concept. Links and Resources Nell Ash's Instagram Class Therapy Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 11 October 2025

In Episode 351 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore the concept of moral injury in therapy - how it shows up in the therapy room and how to work with it ethically and compassionately. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with counselling student and writer Nell Ash, whose upcoming book addresses how class and politics influence both therapy and training. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss how to link theory to practice - bridging what you learn in the classroom with what happens in real-life therapy sessions.

Transcribed - Published: 11 October 2025

In episode 350 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we explore what it means to be starting as a counsellor –  how to bridge the gap between qualification and confident, competent practice. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Mel Ciavucco, a specialist in disordered eating, body image, and weight stigma. They explore the psychological impact of weight loss drugs, how these medications may interact with disordered eating behaviours, and how counsellors can support clients ethically and without judgement. And lastly, in 'Student Services', we look at the concept of reasonable adjustments in counselling training and how learners can get the support they need.

Transcribed - Published: 4 October 2025

Weight Loss Drugs and Disordered Eating - Reasonable Adjustments on a Counselling Course In Episode 350 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we explore what it means to be starting as a counsellor –  how to bridge the gap between qualification and confident, competent practice. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Mel Ciavucco, a specialist in disordered eating, body image, and weight stigma. They explore the psychological impact of weight loss drugs, how these medications may interact with disordered eating behaviours, and how counsellors can support clients ethically and without judgement. And lastly, in ‘Student Services’, we look at the concept of reasonable adjustments in counselling training and how learners can get the support they need. Starting as a Counsellor [starts at 02:59 mins] Rory and Ken delve into the transition from student to practitioner, offering guidance on starting as a counsellor and developing sustainable, ethical practice in the real world. Key points include: Understanding the shift from placement work to independent counselling. Why 21st-century CPD topics like trauma, neurodivergence, and diversity matter. Lifelong learning: your counselling studies don’t end with your qualification. The benefits of identifying a niche or specialism. Practical ways to stand out and serve clients more effectively. Weight Loss Drugs and Disordered Eating [starts at 25:38 mins] Rory is joined by returning guest Mel Ciavucco, an integrative counsellor and trainer specialising in eating disorders, body image, and weight stigma. Together, they unpack the increasing use of weight loss injections like Wegovy, Ozempic, and Mounjaro, with a strong focus on their interaction with disordered eating patterns. Discussion points include: How weight loss drugs can mask underlying disordered eating or body image issues. The risk of misuse among people with eating disorders, especially when prescriptions are obtained privately or online. Why appetite suppression isn’t a treatment for binge eating and may worsen shame cycles. The role of diet culture in shaping perceptions of body weight and food. How counsellors can support clients by remaining non-judgemental, reflective, and trauma-informed. Mel emphasises the need for greater awareness of weight stigma and eating disorders in therapy, and highlights the importance of informed therapeutic exploration when clients are using or considering weight loss drugs. Reasonable Adjustments on a Counselling Course [starts at 00:48:10 mins] Ken and Rory discuss the often-overlooked topic of reasonable adjustments – modifications made to help learners with additional needs thrive in counselling training. Key takeaways include: What reasonable adjustments look like in practice (e.g. coloured overlays, interpreters, extra time). Why it’s important to speak to tutors early and openly about support needs. The difference between formal diagnosis and lived experience, especially for neurodivergent learners. Personal reflections from Rory and Ken on navigating learning challenges. Encouragement to advocate for equitable access to education and training. This segment offers practical advice for students and insight for tutors on creating inclusive learning environments. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 3 October 2025

Email Counselling with Chloe Foster - Understanding Personal Therapy in Counsellor Training In Episode 349 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we discuss how supervision shapes better therapists Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Chloe Foster about her specialism in email counselling and the benefits and challenges of working through the written word. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken explore the role of personal therapy in counsellor training and why it is an essential part of your development. How Supervision Shapes Better Therapists [starts at 03:14 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken reflect on how supervision shapes better therapists by showing how different supervision models can guide and enhance counselling practice. Key points discussed include: Supervision models act as a map, guiding how supervision works and what responsibilities each party holds. Models such as the Inskipp and Proctor model (normative, formative, restorative) help supervisees and supervisors identify needs during sessions. The Integrative Developmental Model (IDM) supports counsellors as they move from apprentice, to journey person, and eventually to master craftsperson. The Seven Eyed Model allows therapists to explore their work from multiple perspectives, deepening reflection and practice. Training as a supervisor not only informs supervisory practice but also refines the therapist’s internal supervisor, strengthening their overall client work. Email Counselling with Chloe Foster [starts at 36:00 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Chloe Foster, a Pink Therapy accredited practitioner, about working with clients via email. Key points from this conversation include: Email counselling offers asynchronous communication, giving clients time and space to process and reflect. It can be particularly effective for clients with busy schedules, neurodivergence, or those who find face-to-face interaction challenging. The disinhibition effect often allows clients to go deeper in written communication, sharing things they may struggle to say out loud. Email counselling requires specialist training to address unique considerations around contracting, boundaries, and endings. Supervision for email counsellors should ideally be provided by supervisors experienced in this modality. 🔹 Wondering if email counselling could work for you?Chloë has a helpful resource waiting for you: Quiz - Is Email Counselling right for you? Understanding Personal Therapy in Counsellor Training [starts at 01:02:26 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken unpack why personal therapy is required during counsellor training and the value it adds to a student’s journey. Key points include: Personal therapy helps students process the intensity of training and the personal changes it brings. It provides a space to explore material that may be triggered by client work. Therapy supports self-awareness, emotional resilience, and professional growth. Experiencing therapy first-hand gives students insight into the client perspective. Far from being a sign of weakness, engaging in personal therapy strengthens both the practitioner and their practice. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 27 September 2025

In Episode 349 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we discuss how supervision shapes better therapists  Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Chloe Foster about her specialism in email counselling and the benefits and challenges of working through the written word. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken explore the role of personal therapy in counsellor training and why it is an essential part of your development.

Transcribed - Published: 27 September 2025

In episode 348 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we look at the barriers to diversity in supervision – exploring the importance of cultural attunement, honesty, and managing bias. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Chris Metcalfe and Kent Riley from iMatta – a practice management platform for therapists looking to streamline their admin and protect client data. And lastly in 'Student Services', we discuss how non-judgement can be more than a counselling condition – it can become a valuable way of living.

Transcribed - Published: 20 September 2025

Practice Management with iMatta - Non-Judgement as a Way of Living In episode 348 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we look at the barriers to diversity in supervision – exploring the importance of cultural attunement, honesty, and managing bias. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Chris Metcalfe and Kent Riley from iMatta – a practice management platform for therapists looking to streamline their admin and protect client data. And lastly, in ‘Student Services’, we discuss how non-judgement can be more than a counselling condition – it can become a valuable way of living. Barriers to Diversity in Supervision [starts at 03:43 mins] Rory and Ken explore how barriers to diversity in supervision can arise when issues of equality and inclusion are overlooked, causing supervisees to hold back and ultimately impacting the client relationship. Key points include: Why supervisors need cultural awareness and CPD in diversity. How hidden clients can emerge when supervisees fear judgement or misunderstanding. The impact of language, unconscious bias, and national symbols in triggering discomfort. A powerful contribution from Sarah Henry, Racial Diversity and Training Correspondent, on attunement versus competence. Practice Management with iMatta [starts at 33:00 mins] This week, Rory is joined by Chris Metcalfe and Kent Riley from iMatta, a secure, easy-to-use platform designed for therapists. Discussion points include: iMatta’s origins supporting ex-service personnel and the therapists who worked with them. Core features: GDPR-compliant data storage, secure video calling, notes, assessments, reminders, and invoicing. Community-building and training support built into the platform. How iMatta helps practitioners focus on therapy, not admin. Non-Judgement as a Way of Living [starts at 55:55 mins] Ken and Rory reflect on the deeper meaning of non-judgement and how it can shape, not just our therapy rooms, but our lives. Key takeaways include: Understanding the difference between judgement and assessment. How being non-judgemental starts with self and improves emotional regulation. The role of curiosity, empathy, and critical thinking in reducing bias. How non-judgement brings harmony to personal and professional relationships. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 20 September 2025

Financial Resilience for Counsellors – Why Counselling Trainees Doubt Themselves In Episode 347 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we explore why autism-informed therapy matters and how inclusivity, legal responsibilities, and lived experience come together to strengthen practice. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Aisha Gordon-Hiles about financial resilience for counsellors. They look at the importance of sustainable fees, ethical pricing, and developing a healthy money mindset to support private practice. And finally in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken reflect on why counselling trainees often doubt themselves – and how reframing these doubts can support deeper learning and professional growth. Why Autism-Informed Therapy Matters [starts at 03:47 mins] Ken and Rory discuss why therapists must become autism-informed, addressing both the legal obligations under the Equality Act and the ethical need for inclusivity. They explore how autistic and neurodivergent clients experience therapy differently and how therapists can make reasonable adjustments. Key points discussed include: Understanding that every autistic person is unique and avoiding assumptions. The rising public awareness and diagnoses of neurodivergence. Common barriers in therapy for autistic clients, such as diagnostic overshadowing and lack of practitioner training. Creating an inclusive space through sensory adjustments and flexible session formats. We also hear from Paul Cullen, Counselling Tutor's Neurodiversity and Supervision Correspondent. Drawing on lived experience with his autistic daughter and wife, Paul offers practical insights on navigating daily challenges, meltdowns, education systems, and reasonable adjustments in the therapy room — bringing to life why autism-informed therapy matters in practice as well as in principle. Financial Resilience for Counsellors [starts at 32:49 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Aisha Gordon-Hiles, accredited counsellor and co-founder of the Contained Clinician. Drawing from her CPD lecture Financial Resilience for Counsellors, Aisha explains why counsellors must treat private practice like a business. Key points from this conversation include: Bare bones budgeting: Calculating your minimum financial needs. Ethical pricing and how to set sustainable fees. Addressing money mindset issues and internal beliefs. Future-proofing your practice with savings and pension planning. Balancing accessibility with business sustainability. Aisha shares how her own transition from salaried work to private practice with a young child inspired her to rethink financial well-being as part of self-care and ethical therapy. Why Counselling Trainees Doubt Themselves [starts at 59:15 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explore the common experience of self-doubt among counselling trainees. From imposter syndrome to comparing yourself to peers, they unpack why this happens and how it can actually be a sign of growth. Key points include: Winging it is more common than you think – even experienced therapists feel it! Theory-heavy learning often triggers self-doubt. Positive feedback sometimes doesn’t land due to internal narratives. Supervision and peer support are essential for reassurance. Reframing doubt as care and curiosity. Here's a free CPD lecture on Confidence for Counselling Students: https://counsellorcpd.com/confidence-lecture/ Links and Resources Aisha Gordon-Hiles Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD

Transcribed - Published: 13 September 2025

In Episode 347 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we explore why autism-informed therapy matters and how inclusivity, legal responsibilities, and lived experience come together to strengthen practice. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Aisha Gordon-Hiles about financial resilience for counsellors. They look at the importance of sustainable fees, ethical pricing, and developing a healthy money mindset to support private practice. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken reflect on why counselling trainees often doubt themselves – and how reframing these doubts can support deeper learning and professional growth.

Transcribed - Published: 13 September 2025

Domestic Abuse Awareness – Why a Year of Skills Training Matters In Episode 346 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, they explore trauma-informed practice, focusing specifically on triangulation and trauma — how this hidden dynamic shows up in therapy and why recognising it is vital for working safely and effectively with clients. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Mel Ciavucco, a counsellor, trainer, and specialist in domestic abuse, about her new CPD lecture, Domestic Abuse Awareness. They discuss working with both survivors and perpetrators, how coercive control operates, and the importance of understanding abuse through an intersectional lens. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken explore why formal counselling training includes a full year focused entirely on counselling skills. They explain how these foundational skills form the bedrock of all therapeutic work and how they support students in becoming confident, competent practitioners. Triangulation and Trauma [starts at 03:49 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explore triangulation and trauma, highlighting how this relational dynamic is often rooted in childhood experiences. Key points discussed include: Triangulation involves bringing a third party into a relationship to manage tension or avoid conflict. It can result in anxiety, hidden trauma, and ongoing relational difficulties if not recognised and addressed. Clients may unconsciously replay triangulation dynamics in therapy, such as trying to get the therapist to “side” with them. Working through triangulation requires consistency, boundaries, and an understanding of attachment repair. Therapists should avoid prematurely disrupting these dynamics without fully understanding their protective role. Domestic Abuse Awareness [starts at 32:58 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Mel Ciavucco, who draws from years of experience working with domestic abuse survivors and perpetrators. Key points from this conversation include: Mel’s CPD lecture explores coercive control, stalking, spiritual abuse, and honor-based violence. Neurodivergence (like ADHD or autism) can sometimes contribute to harmful behaviours, though not excuse them. Perpetrator work is focused on supporting survivors by addressing the root causes of abuse. Therapists often fear working with perpetrators - but change is possible with the right approach and supervision. The Jane Monckton Smith homicide timeline is introduced as a powerful tool for risk assessment and understanding escalation. An intersectional approach is vital - Mel speaks about LGBTQ+ clients, gender-based violence, and inclusive practice. Why a Year of Skills Training Matters [starts at 1:04:38 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken explain the rationale behind dedicating an entire year of counselling training to developing core counselling skills. Key points include: Skills like active listening, reflection, and silence are often life-changing for students - not just for therapy, but in everyday relationships. Practicing these skills in triads helps students build confidence and competence before entering clinical work. These are advanced communication tools that improve personal and professional interactions across the board. Active listening helps us respond with understanding rather than advice or opinion. Silence, used well, can open space for deeper expression and processing. These foundational skills support the therapeutic relationship - where most healing takes place. Links and Resources Mel Ciavucco Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource

Transcribed - Published: 6 September 2025

In Episode 346 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore trauma-informed practice, focusing specifically on triangulation and trauma — how this hidden dynamic shows up in therapy and why recognising it is vital for working safely and effectively with clients. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Mel Ciavucco, a counsellor, trainer, and specialist in domestic abuse, about her new CPD lecture, Domestic Abuse Awareness. They discuss working with both survivors and perpetrators, how coercive control operates, and the importance of understanding abuse through an intersectional lens. And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken explore why formal counselling training includes a full year focused entirely on counselling skills. They explain how these foundational skills form the bedrock of all therapeutic work and how they support students in becoming confident, competent practitioners.

Transcribed - Published: 6 September 2025

In Episode 345 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we examine working with rehearsed material with Sarah Henry. How to identify it, what it means for the therapeutic relationship, and ethical ways to respond. Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Laura Davies, who shares her personal experience of navigating perimenopause while working as a therapist, offering insights into how it affected her practice and ways she adapted. And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken do a deep dive into the counselling skill of reflection. How it works, when to use it, and the important role it plays in helping clients connect with their emotions.

Transcribed - Published: 30 August 2025

Perimenopause and Therapist Identity - Counselling Skills: A Deeper Look at Reflection In Episode 345 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week’s three topics: Firstly, in ‘Ethical, Sustainable Practice’, we examine working with rehearsed material with Sarah Henry. How to identify it, what it means for the therapeutic relationship, and ethical ways to respond. Then in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Laura Davies, who shares her personal experience of navigating perimenopause while working as a therapist, offering insights into how it affected her practice and ways she adapted. And finally, in ‘Student Services’, Rory and Ken do a deep dive into the counselling skill of reflection. How it works, when to use it, and the important role it plays in helping clients connect with their emotions. Working with Rehearsed Material [starts at 03:28 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken discuss how some clients bring emotionally detached, well-practised narratives into therapy. Key points discussed include: Working with rehearsed material often shows up with high fluency but low emotional expression. It can serve as a protective mechanism, a service-shaped narrative, or a way to test the therapist’s response. Ethical practice involves patience, not forcing emotion, and recognising this material as a valid part of the client’s process. Micro-interventions such as body-based check-ins, sensory prompts, and careful use of immediacy can gently encourage emotional connection. Sarah Henry offers a practice-based view of how clients use rehearsed stories early in therapy to build trust and test emotional safety. Perimenopause and Therapist Identity [starts at 41:15 mins] In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with counsellor Laura Davis about her personal experience of perimenopause and how it impacted her therapeutic presence. Key points from the conversation include: Laura describes experiencing brain fog mid-session and questioning her capacity as a therapist. She talks about adapting her practice - tracking symptoms, working more relationally, and using creative methods. The emotional impact of shifting identity during menopause, including fears about professional competence. Ethical considerations around disclosure to clients and maintaining trust in the therapeutic relationship. The importance of workplace support, supervision, and societal openness around menopause. Counselling Skills: A Deeper Look at Reflection [starts at 01:08:23 mins] In this section, Rory and Ken take a deep dive into the skill of reflection, one of the core counselling skills used to help clients access and understand their emotions. Key points include: Reflection bridges the story (narrative) with the emotion underneath. Types of reflection: content, emotional, and meaning-based. Reflection helps counsellors check attunement and gives clients space to name and explore feelings. It should be avoided in situations involving risk assessment, contracting, or when responding to clear client questions. Students are encouraged to develop this skill through journaling, feedback, and supervision. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Training and CPD Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner’s Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

Transcribed - Published: 30 August 2025