374: AI and the Therapeutic Relationship
Counselling Tutor podcast
Kenneth Kelly
4.8 • 657 Ratings
🗓️ 2 May 2026
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 374 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics:
Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore AI and the therapeutic relationship - looking at how clients are using AI, the risks involved, and how therapists can respond ethically.
Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Jonathan Drury about the Autism Dialogue Approach - examining neurodiversity, communication, and how therapists can work more collaboratively and equitably.
And finally in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken discuss managing anxiety about counselling training - normalising the experience and offering strategies to navigate it.
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| 0:00.0 | You're a qualified counsellor and you feel ready to take that next step. Counseling Tutors |
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| 0:23.3 | explained. And you get to practice it yourself with peers with observation and feedback from the |
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| 0:36.2 | checked. Visit counsellingtutor.com, click on the products tab and select clinical supervision |
| 0:43.5 | training to download your information pack and course sandbox. |
| 0:48.6 | Hello and welcome to episode 374 of the counselling tutor podcast. |
| 0:59.5 | I'm Rory and I'm delighted to welcome Jonathan Drury to the podcast today. Jonathan is a coach, consultant, trainer and facilitator specialising in autism, |
| 1:08.2 | neurodiversity and dialogical practice. |
| 1:11.2 | He works with individuals, leaders, teams and organisations to map communication patterns, |
| 1:18.4 | rethink expectations and environments, and help create cultures where difference is valued |
| 1:24.0 | as something that can shape the system rather than something a person has to compensate |
| 1:30.1 | for. |
| 1:31.2 | Jonathan is based in England's National Peak District National Park and in this conversation |
| 1:36.4 | we'll be discussing his book, The Autism Dialogue Approach. |
| 1:41.1 | It's a real pleasure to have him with us today. |
| 1:43.4 | So with that said, let's roll the intro. |
| 1:48.1 | Welcome to the counselling tutor podcast. The must listen to podcast for counsellors, |
| 1:56.0 | psychotherapists and counselling students. Here are your hosts, Rory Lees Oaks and Ken Kelly. |
| 2:05.5 | Hello and a very warm welcome to episode 374 of the counselling tutor podcast with Rory |
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