360 - Rupture and Repair in Counselling
Counselling Tutor podcast
Kenneth Kelly
4.8 • 657 Ratings
🗓️ 3 January 2026
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 360 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics:
- Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', they explore the inevitable ruptures that can occur in the therapeutic relationship - and how recognising and repairing these moments builds resilience and strengthens the alliance.
- Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Ian Long, illustrator and co-creator of the iconic Blob Tree, about the origins, evolution, and global impact of these powerful visual tools in therapy and education.
- And finally, in 'Student Services', Rory and Ken rethink transference in person-centred therapy, offering insight into how these dynamics show up during training and why they matter - even outside of client work.
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| 1:07.1 | Hello and welcome to episode 360 of the counselling tutor podcast. I'm Rory and my guest today is Ian Lung, a British author, illustrator, teacher trainer and creator, best known for co-developing, the now iconic visual tool, the blob tree, alongside youth worker and author Pip Wilson. |
| 1:31.4 | Ian spent 17 years as a primary school teacher and has also worked as a graphic artist, |
| 1:37.7 | youth worker and pastoral worker, a blend of experiences that shaped his passion for using images and non-verbal communication |
| 1:46.6 | to help people express emotions that words sometimes can't reach. |
| 1:52.2 | Today, we'll be exploring the story behind the blob tree, |
| 1:56.3 | its applications in counselling and education around the world |
| 2:00.1 | and why it remains such a powerful tool |
| 2:02.8 | for an emotional connection and reflection. So with that said, let's roll the intro. |
| 2:11.3 | Welcome to the counselling tutor podcast. |
| 2:15.8 | The must listen to podcast for counsellors, psychotherapists and counselling students. |
| 2:24.3 | Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly. |
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