353 - Understanding Autism and Attachment Difficulties
Counselling Tutor podcast
Kenneth Kelly
4.8 • 657 Ratings
🗓️ 25 October 2025
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 353 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics:
- Firstly, in 'Ethical, Sustainable Practice', we look at where autism meets attachment, understanding autism and attachment difficulties – and how similarities and overlaps in presentation can be misinterpreted and what this means for therapists.
- Then in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Meg Moss, Head of Policy and Public Affairs at the NCPS, about relational safeguards in AI mental health tools – a timely discussion for any practitioner using or considering AI in practice.
- And finally in 'Student Services', our correspondent Sarah Henry joins Rory to make sense of frame of reference – a foundational concept in person-centred therapy.
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| 1:06.6 | Hello and welcome to episode 353 of the counselling tutor podcast. |
| 1:13.1 | I'm Rory and my guest today is Meg Moss, |
| 1:16.5 | head of policy and public affairs at the National Counseling and Psychotherapy Society, |
| 1:22.7 | also known as the NCPS. |
| 1:24.9 | She is a familiar voice to many of our listeners. |
| 1:28.9 | In this episode, Meg joins me to unpack an important new NCPS policy document |
| 1:35.1 | titled Principles for Relational Safeguards in AI Mental Health Tools. |
| 1:41.3 | It's been created to help practitioners make sense of the growing number of therapy-related |
| 1:47.8 | AI applications appearing in today's marketplace. |
| 1:51.5 | So if you've ever felt confused, cautious or curious about how to navigate AI in mental |
| 1:59.3 | health or indeed counselling practice, |
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