The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael

This week, June and Jeckeeka (FKA Jessica) take their relationship to a whole new level when June pops the ultimate question: “will you share your location with me?” Then we dive into shopping experiences (both miserable and ideal), wild sibling misadventures, and how gyms are truly disgusting.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 30 April 2025

This week, we’re thrilled to introduce you to Hasan Minhaj Doesn’t Know from Lemonada Media. Hosted by comedian Hasan Minhaj (from The Daily Show and Patriot Act), he sits down with some of the biggest names in politics, culture, and tech.  Hasan asks the tough questions, some thought-provoking, some straight-up absurd—but all of them come from a real place of curiosity. Every episode is tailored to the guest, their story, their vibe. So if you're out here trying to make sense of the world and find answers—come hang and find out. Because at the end of the day, Hasan Minhaj Doesn’t Know! We’re going to play you the first episode featuring parenting expert Dr. Becky. After you listen, search Hasan Minhaj Doesn’t Know wherever you get your podcasts, or head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/hasanminhajdoesntknowfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 26 April 2025

Hoods are up, the ghost has been busted but…we miss him? The girls dive deep into their fear of blonde men, the rules of a mutual break up and the grief that follows joy. Remember Deep Divers, not all ghosts should be sent on their merry. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 23 April 2025

Hoods are up, the ghost has been busted but…we miss him? The girls dive deep into their fear of blonde men, the rules of a mutual break up and the grief that follows joy. Remember Deep Divers, not all ghosts should be sent on their merry. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 23 April 2025

This week, Jessica and June are dealing with dysregulation of the mind AND the body. We learn the only mirror you can trust is a car mirror, get some wholesome relationship tips from “Love on the Spectrum,” and discover the fine line between “labeling” and lying. Plus, we may have found the answer to one of life’s greatest questions: why do no bad photos exist of your mom?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 16 April 2025

This week, Jessica hears the siren song of the sea and June agrees to face her biggest fear to join her star sister on a Poseidon Adventure. Then, the girls make a formal apology to all women for ever suggesting we should cold plunge and June announces the end of effortless beauty! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 9 April 2025

This week, the girls are on the road! June kayaks and revels in a continental breakfast while Jessica wakes up some bats and gets in touch with her inner Babygirl in Austin. The girls then dive into how close proximity is a privilege and how they delight in a guilt free NAH. Hold on to your hot rollers, Deep Divers, it’s gonna be a wild ride! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 2 April 2025

East Coast/West Coast calendar tribulations aside, June and Jessica revisit a safe space for all. Running on fumes this week, we are too burnt out to read the book on burnout; but there's plenty to be grateful for and though we may have to bury our secrets in a bush, you can trust that there are life lessons to be learned in every diner and stadium parking lot across the nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 29 March 2025

This week, June and Jessica are faced with the ultimate question: will parents rest ever again? Then they experiment with hydration, June hires a ghostbuster, and Jessica protects the names of those she loves. Plus we recap the sexiest thing we’ve ever heard in a TikTok. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 26 March 2025

We’re thrilled to invite you to The Dylan Hour, a weekly cocktail party hosted by Dylan Mulvaney, from Lemonada Media. In this fun weekly video podcast, Dylan sips and spills with some of her favorite girls, gays, and theys — featuring pop stars, Broadway belters, actors, authors, like Glennon Doyle, Margaret Cho and even her own dad!  The Dylan Hour is a delightful, 1960s-inspired, pink confection of a podcast. Life can be stressful, and everyone needs time to unwind and have a little fun! So, set your worries aside, grab a drink or a mocktail, and join the party- it’s just getting started! Here’s the first episode of The Dylan Hour featuring Joe Locke, where they sip espresso martinis, dish about their types, and take us behind the scenes of Heartstopper and Agatha All Along. After you listen, be sure to search for The Dylan Hour wherever you get your podcasts, watch every episode on YouTube, or head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheDylanHourfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 22 March 2025

This week, Jessica is working on a book proposal and is forced to face one of her biggest fears: looking at old photos. Then June “balances space” in Zone 1 at the airport before taking us through a very moving episode of “Alone.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 19 March 2025

This week, we are turning our phones on sleep mode, putting on our noise-cancelling headphones, and entering a sensory deprivation tank of our own making. Then June and Jessica chat the price of togetherness, early dinners and early arrivals, and the thrill and suspense of a 2-liter bottle of soda.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 12 March 2025

This week, we are coming to you with a shocking reveal and an apology regarding last week’s tech issues. Then, we unearth the origin of Jessica’s true crime fears, and we discuss the importance of sharing (good news and/or drugs) with the ones we love most.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 5 March 2025

This week, Jessica discovers her true calling—burglary. After effortlessly breaking into a guest cottage, she and June reminisce about childhood break-ins, attic mishaps, and the time Jessica’s dad had to be firefighter-rescued from a charley horse. Then, we dive into the ethics of sneaking into an earlier flight boarding zone, the emotional rollercoaster of international travel, and one very, very expensive suitcase. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 26 February 2025

You think you're burned out? Try harboring a secret, second family. This week, we're revisiting when June and Jessica delve into the seedy worlds of gardening, missing persons, and Jessica makes a shocking revelation about her connection to Neanderthals. Rosemary hides, but you don't have to. Be proud of who you are. You. Be. You.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 22 February 2025

This week, against all better judgment, Jessica has procured a hamster and things are not going well. Plus, June falls victim to the Postmates system while Jessica’s dad has career advice for Jake Cornell. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 19 February 2025

We’re dropping something special in your feed this week- we’re reexploring BEING Trans. BEING Trans was the first series of its type when it premiered in 2022- it’s reality TV for your ears. No scripts, no interviews, just real life as it happens. The show follows four trans people as they go about their lives in Los Angeles. You’ll be there for the highs and the lows, the messy, complicated, beautiful moments that make us who we are. Trans people don’t often get to tell their own stories, in their own voices, on their own terms. That’s why this show is so important. They’re not here to explain themselves or justify who they are. They’re just letting you in—to listen, to experience, to understand. We’re about to play you an episode from BEING Trans, featuring Chloe, a trans woman who recently transitioned and is very inexperienced with dating, so much so that she's not even sure about her sexuality but is hoping to change all of that in LA. This is BEING Trans. To hear the full series, search for BEING Trans where you are listening right now, or head to https://lemonadamedia.com/show/beingSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 15 February 2025

This week, June and Jessica are petitioning to bring back intercoms. Plus Jessica rents some deadstock exercise equipment from the 90s, June places an extreme order of half and half, and we discover the limitations of Jessica’s calendar system. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 12 February 2025

This week, June and Jessica are dealing with some major changes, and not just in Jessica’s insta DM settings. We dive into the importance of trying, the ins and outs of Google classrooms, and setting boundaries with both high-fives and butts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 5 February 2025

This week, Jessica and June are navigating difficult times by choosing optimism (but toxic positivity can definitely gtfo). Plus we dive into the benefits of transcendental meditation, ADHD bed-making tips, and neck keys.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 29 January 2025

This week, June and Jess are still in the thick of coping with the LA fires, but they are playing Tetris and pulling cards of hope. Then Jake Cornell joins to chat naps, gum, and sports families. Plus we unfortunately learn another valuable lesson about how a photograph can do you dirty.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 22 January 2025

This week, the girls are two hermit crabs in search of a shell. They thank the Deep Dive Community for their concern, share the beautiful things Los Angelenos are doing to take care of each other and marvel at the resiliency of the human spirit. Then, June tells us to let them eat cake, HOW we want to eat it and WHEN. Take care of each other, Deep Divers. We love you. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 15 January 2025

It’s officially 2025! Jessica has come down with consumption (again), but she and June are embracing the Yuletide nevertheless. Plus we hear a cautionary tale of leave-in conditioner and learn there’s always room for more “community” at the community pool. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 8 January 2025

This week, we revisit a past episode of The Deep Dive where Jess is bumping boundaries, and June is vowing to show the movie Scrambled to all the women in the world. Then, just when Jessica thought they were completely yolked heading into the Super Bowl, June shares her distressing opinion of the infamous Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce kiss. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 1 January 2025

June and Jess are coming to you today from a bit of a tender spot. Phones have been lost, Better Homes and Gardens subscriptions have been purchased, and trauma responses have been forgiven. Plus, Jess comes HARD for June over a potential holiday party etiquette betrayal and June sets the record straight.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 18 December 2024

We love a get ready with me video, but what about a full length GRWM from none other than June Diane Raphael HOT off the red carpet? That’s right friends – JDR is a guest on this episode of Add to Cart and gives us her full beauty routine.  She’s sparing no details, from the oil cleanser she’ll never find to her 7 favorite ever-lasting mascaras. Sharpen your pencils, get out your papers, because you’ll want to write down every step of this Hollywood icon’s routine. Please note, Add To Cart contains mature themes and may not be appropriate for all listeners.  To see all products mentioned in this episode, head to @addtocartpod on Instagram. To purchase any of the products, see below.  June is getting wise about counterfeit makeup with the Netflix documentary “Broken” Don’t miss Deep Dive’s “I’d Hit That” pickleball tournament on Mother Day’s weekend She is all about that sunscreen, with the EltaMD Clear Broad-Spectrum SPF 46 and the Avenè Mineral Tinted Compact SPF 50 Her favorite exfoliator is Paula’s Choice 2% BHA Liquid Salicylic Acid Exfoliant Gotta prep the skin for sunscreen with the Biossance Squalane + Antioxidant Cleansing Oil The Avenè RetrinAL 0.1 Intensive Cream keeps skin tight, and stay moisturized with the Cicalfate+ Restorative Protective Cream She evens skin tone with the Dr. Jart Mini Cicapair Tiger Grass color corrector She gets makeup ready with the Urban Decay Glow Face Primer The Armani Beauty Luminous Silk Perfect Glow Flawless Oil-Free Foundation puts in the work  The Hourglass Vanish Airbrush Concealer is a staple The Vise Art Paris Neutral palette and Huda Beauty Nude Obsessions palette complement her blue eyes perfectly   She gets her perfect cat-eye with the KVD Tattoo Liner Waterproof Liquid Eyeliner The decades-long star of JDR’s makeup routine: the mascaras. Her faves include the tarte Lights, Camera, Lashes™ 4-in-1 Mascara, Benefit Cosmetics BADgal BANG! Volumizing Mascara, and the Maybelline New York Great Lash Washable Mascara She ensures no mascara smudges with the Givenchy Prisme Libre Loose Setting and Finishing Powder The Maybelline Super Stay Matte Ink Liquid Lipstick in Cardinal Red and the Makeup Forever Rouge Artist Lipstick in Spirited Pink are go-to colors The Charlotte Tilbury Hollywood Flawless Filter doubles as a great highlighter She’s a business mogul too, check out her Amazon storefront  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 15 December 2024

This week, Jessica and June are still riding high on show fumes and give us a behind-the-scenes breakdown of the Deep Dive Christmas Spectacular. We learn that women can do anything with the support of other women and a quality pair of hose. Plus we dive into our new holiday season calendar and our thoughts on “The Village.” (And for once, we don’t mean the M. Night Shyamalan classic.)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 11 December 2024

This week, Jessica and June are struggling through the roughest transition to Daylight Savings Time in history. We also dive deep into parking lot culture, ghosts that haunt our homes and our dogs, and we finally nail down Cookie’s personality profile.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 4 December 2024

This week we want to introduce you to a show we love: And Just Like Matt featuring June Diane Raphael and Casey Wilson. Matt McConkey (“Homophilia”) is here to unpack all things And Just Like That Season 2: the episodes, the cultural impact, and the themes. Matt and his star-studded roster of fellow fanatics (his own Mirandas and Charlottes and Che Diazes, if you will) share their conversations on friendship, aging, dating, death, work… and how we as a community can bring Samantha back full-time. As Matt unpacked episode 2 with a couple of self-proclaimed Carrie-Samantha hybrids, he couldn’t help but wonder: Are we all Charlottes? New episodes of And Just Like Matt are coming in 2025!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 1 December 2024

This week, Jessica and June are facing their harshest comedy critics - their children. Then they dive into bedroom kids vs. living room kids, the joy of a sectional, Thanksgiving plans, and reality TV drama. And please be advised, Deep Divers: moving forward, we will be adopting mob wife looks and attitudes. Try. Me.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 27 November 2024

Deep Divers, it’s 7AM - do you know where your children are? This week, June and Jessica are in a state and are turning to egg sandwiches and Cann beverages for comfort with varying levels of success. Then June dives into a significant violation of her time and guest bathroom, plus we chat the big game, catfishing rom coms, and surf moms.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 20 November 2024

We’re introducing you to a show we love: Choice Words with Samantha Bee. Every day, we make choices—some explode, some implode, and most we barely remember. But what about the choices that change everything? Each week, Samantha Bee sits down with people she admires to dig into the biggest decisions they’ve made in their lives and the ripple effects those choices have had. In this episode, Sam chats with comedian and actor Paul Scheer about his decision to go to NYU, becoming a parent, and figuring out what kind of dad he wants to be. For more episodes, search for Choice Words with Samantha Bee wherever you get your podcasts or click here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 17 November 2024

On this very special bonus episode of The Deep Dive, June and Jessica are joined by Kulap Vilaysack and SuChin Pak from the podcast ADD TO CART, and Scott Aukerman, Lauren Lapkus, and Paul F. Tompkins from the podcast THREEDOM for game night! The game? That’s What She Said (Second Edition), by Moose Games, where the goal is to see who can create the most laughs with 400 innuendo-filled phrases. Thank you Moose Games for sponsoring this very funny, very NAUGHTY episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 15 November 2024

This week, Jessica and June are immediately post-election and are cycling through grief. Then they dive into firemen that spark no joy, earwax protocols, and Martha Stewart. And as we all forge ahead together, we encourage all our Deep Divers to become comfortable with being unlikeable and to take it a little too far.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 13 November 2024

This week’s episode is coming to you from the past! Jessica and June are pre-election and you, dear listener, are mid or post-election, so we have no idea where we’re meeting you but we are entering the week with HOPE and recommend living that Cann life in any scenario. Plus Jess is escaping to the car, June is fact-checking whales, and we’re expressing our love for thicc bois (both dogs and athletes).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 November 2024

This week we’re introducing you to The Sarah Silverman Podcast, where Sarah shares her thoughts and musings on anything and everything under the sun. No topic is off limits, from politics to the rampant overuse of cologne. In this episode, Sarah plans a mushroom trip through Griffith Park and ends up lying on her driveway. Plus, she helps a guy who can’t finish, offers tips on how to manage an imbalanced relationship, and seeks advice for a mother whose daughter is in crisis. For more episodes, search for The Sarah Silverman Podcast wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/sarahsilvermanfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 3 November 2024

This week, June and Jessica are FINALLY talking about CVS. Then we get into Jess’s Marshalls origin story, our history of petty crimes and corporate theft, the wonders of Home Depot, and election anxiety. Plus we are interrupted by an extremely loud husband using the cal against us, and we make a very important live virtual show announcement. Please join us for The Deep Dive Christmas Spectacular, coming to your living rooms December 3rd at 5pm PT/8pm ET. Head to https://veeps.events/thedeepdive for tickets now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 30 October 2024

This week, Jessica’s new eyelashes gets her an invite to a private tour of a salad bar from a man named Bruce. Meanwhile, June apprentices herself to a Mah Jong master. Then, they decide to stop trying to be better and instead GIVE UP, especially when it comes to homework. Remember Deep Divers: take care of yourselves in this moment of being “on hold” because the tide is going in the right direction!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 23 October 2024

We’re excited to introduce My So-Called Midlife, a new podcast by Reshma Saujani and Lemonada Media. “Is this it?” That’s the question our host Reshma Saujani asks herself daily. She’s the founder of two successful nonprofits, she’s married to a great guy, and she’s raising two beautiful children. She’s gotten everything she’s ever wanted, so why does she feel so unsatisfied? Is this a woman’s version of a midlife crisis?  She’s determined to figure it out, and with the strength of her group chat behind her, she’s calling in reinforcements. From conversations with Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, Emily Oster, Cheryl Strayed, and more, Reshma’s going to help us all figure out how we stop trying to just get through this time of life… and actually start living it. Here’s a sneak peek of episode one of My So-Called Midlife. Listen as Reshma chats with Julia Louis-Dreyfus about why her 50s have been the best decade of her life. My So-Called Midlife with Reshma Saujani– listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/mysocalledmidlifefdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 20 October 2024

This week, June makes a formal retraction of her previous statements on meal planning, and Jess takes us on a hot roller journey that leads to some serious revelations about hair and life in general. Then we learn about staying loose at Disneyland, parenting with Coca-Cola, and concert tips, tricks, and traumas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 16 October 2024

This week, we’ve got a real mezze platter of an episode. June and Jessica dive into the benefits of a Rot Day, moms and dads (both fake and real), generational bank chutes, sexy perimenopausal literature, and more. And listeners, please remember to check the room before divulging your deep dark secrets. You never know who’s going to pop up, Weekend at Bernie’s style.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 8 October 2024

We’re excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a show you'll love-- Attitudes! A pop culture comedy podcast hosted by Erin Gibson and Bryan Safi who cover LGBTQ+ and gender issues of the moment with both hilarity and healthy doses of absurdity. Erin's doctor is having her take a 30 day Dutch Test, and Bryan's neck skin is turning red from an Instagram dermatologist's product recommendations. Erin takes us through the horrific events and GOP decisions in Georgia that led up to Amber Nicole Thurman's preventable death. Bryan shares details of the recent HRC poll which shows how many LGBTQ+ adults are registered to vote, who they're voting for and how informed they are on the issues at stake. If you like this episode, head to Attitudes! Wherever you get your podcasts or, https://lemonada.lnk.to/attitudesfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 October 2024

This week, June and Jessica delve into the characteristics of a good apology, the fear of an embarrassing death, and the power of motherhood and Coca Cola. Then, Lily Womble, author of "Thank You, More Please: A Feminist Guide to Breaking Dumb Dating Rules and Finding Love" joins to discuss her book and its lessons on dating, love, and embracing one's self. You can find Lily on all social media as @datebrazenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 2 October 2024

Sharing something special this week: An appearance Jessica made on the Pop Culture Moms podcast. On Pop Culture Moms, longtime friends and pop culture enthusiasts Andie Mitchell and Sabrina Kohlberg sit down with fellow “scholars” of pop culture to explore the highs and lows of parenting. In this episode, you'll hear how Jessica drew inspiration for Playing House from her cancer battle, portraying the importance of female friendships for moms. Plus, Jessica talks about her comedy career, her precocious daughter, and why having a village matters when you're not feeling your best. You can listen to more Pop Culture Moms episodes at https://link.chtbl.com/pcms2?sid=jessicaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 28 September 2024

This week, Jess is a jet setter, June announces the golden age of the cinema is back and both girls share their deep fear of Spring Break. Then, conversation circles back to the dreaded dance circle as Deep Divers have opened their eyes to its untapped potential and its layered possibilities. To all you Pink Pony Girls and invisible double dutch innovators, we see you. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 25 September 2024

This week we're presenting something new: How Did This Get Made? Time to enter the Red Room of Pain. That's right, all star guest Jessica St. Clair joins Paul, June, & Jason to bite their lips while breaking down the least sexy movie about sex ever—2015's Fifty Shades of Grey starring Dakota Johnson and Jamie Dornan. LIVE from Largo, the HDTG-BDSM crew discuss Christian and Anna's "meet puke", googling what a butt plug is, CGI pubes, fuck jeans, and so much more. DISCLAIMER: As our submissive, you must sign a consent contract before listening to this episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 22 September 2024

This week Deep Divers, we face a season of possibilities. Jess reflects on the incredible gift that is forgetting, and June is on some Big Hulk Energy as they ponder how to help the kids decompress after the odyssey that is an average school day and what it takes to start new traditions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 18 September 2024

The girls are quite literally melting from the heat, but before the puddles dry, Jessica reveals her ancient gift for dream interpretation and uses her skills to unlock June’s unconscious mind. Then, Jess is still reeling from a once in a lifetime wedding that was so full of special touches, even an aggressive dance circle couldn’t get in the way of a good time. June is also riding high from a monumental achievement in photogenic history and shares her mantra, borrowed from the great Ru Paul. Deep Divers, YOU know.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 11 September 2024

This week we have something special to share with you. We’re diving into the heart of America's childcare crisis with No One Is Coming to Save Us, hosted by veteran reporter Gloria Riviera. In Season 4, we’re peeling back the layers of our nation’s most pressing challenges - intergenerational poverty, homelessness, and climate change - to uncover their deep, often surprising connections with childcare. In this first episode of Season 4, Gloria’s taking a look at how quality childcare and early education can help families break out of poverty, and what that means for our country’s future. First, Gloria hears from Professor Jorge Luís Garcia, an economist at Texas A&M University whose research shows that investing in young children pays dividends for decades. Then she connects with Emily Centeio, who grew up in a low-income immigrant household and now helps to run an early learning center, Epiphany, dedicated to helping families like hers break out of poverty. To hear more of No One Is Coming to Save Us, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/NoOneisComingtoSaveusfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 8 September 2024

What's your favorite scary movie? Is it none of them? This week, June shares a trailer for the movie she wants to watch with Jess, but let's just say it is not content Jess normally pursues. Then, Jess explores the power of flipping the script and June sees an equally amazing magic as her little ones fall in love with reading. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 4 September 2024