Hi, I'm Jessica St. Clair. And I'm June Diane Raffiel. And this is the deep dive. We're about to do what women have done for centuries. We're crowding around the fire with our generous haunches.

We got babies hanging off our tits and we're going to share with you our fears.

That's right.

Our joys.

Our tips on how to stay alive.

Now, Jess, we are heating a call that no one has made.

Not a soul, but you're invited to listen.

Absolutely, because we make one promise and one promise only.

We will not Google a thing, because frankly, we're too damn tired.

Please get ready to go on.

The Deep Divers, we have a very special episode today.

June is away making magic on the screen,

and I have decided to bring on one of our dearest friends, Danielle Schneider, part of the

deep dive Marvelverse, of course, my sister, my sister from another mister.

Danielle, welcome.

Hi, I'm so happy to be here.

And, yeah, we are sort of a Marvelverse, the better one, if you ask me.

So, Danielle, I just wanted to have you on because we just spent a glorious two days in Newport Beach, which I spoke at length about. But it had me thinking about our journey as mothers in general, but also as mothers of only children.

So I have a lot of people DM me, deep divers, who are either maybe they've had one

and they're trying to think about whether or not they want to have a second or they can't

have a second.

And they say things that like, you know, like the stories of Bibi and I are something that give them hope that they're not doing the wrong thing by not wanting another one or not being able to have another one.

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