Demoted

Ever wondered what it’s really like to work behind the scenes with a major online creator? Join us this week as we sit down with Annie Varellas, the Brand Manager for our host, Corporate Natalie! Annie pulls back the curtain on her fascinating role in the world of influencer marketing, giving us a glimpse into her day-to-day life and the surprising aspects of working so closely with a creator. We delve into compensation, how to get a job in the space, the power of building a company with an all-woman team, and the unique advantages of open communication in the workplace. Listeners chimed in with burning questions around the need for a large social battery, Annie’s unconventional sleep schedule, fitness routines, and the pair’s professional pet peeves. Discover the professional strengths and weaknesses that balance this dynamic duo. Go to https://Goodr.com/demoted and use promo code DEMOTED for Free Shipping! We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: ⁠https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6⁠ Episode Content: 00:00 - Introducing Annie Varellas, Brand Manager for Corporate Natalie 03:44 - What does a Brand Manager do in influencer marketing? 08:29 - A Week in the Life of Corporate Natalie’s Brand Manager 13:21 - Something Surprising about Working for a Creator 15:46 - Is Annie Fairly Compensated in her Role? 18:23 - Crafting Your Ideal Job 22:23 - Building a Company with an All Woman Team and the Advantage of Open Emotions in the Workplace 28:03 - Questions from Listeners: Who has a bigger social battery? 30:29 - Annie’s Crazy Sleep Schedule 32:35 - Pet Peeves Working with Corporate Natalie 35:55 - Corporate Natalie’s Fitness Journey and Annie’s Triathlon 39:15 - A Professional Strength that is the other’s Weakness 41:21 - Dating in San Francisco as an Influencer 43:07 - Things you might not know about Corporate Natalie and her Brand Manager Annie 46:03 - Tips for Giving Feedback to a Sensitive Employee 48:12 - Promoted or Demoted: Weekend Work, VLogging, Fighting in the Newark Airport 52:35 - Dear Demoted: What is the Appropriate Response Time for Work Messages? 56:29 - Shout outs to the Moterheads

Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2025

Go to  https://zbiotics.com/DEMOTED and use code DEMOTED at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Can brutal honesty actually get you a pay raise? We’ve got a corporate confession that will leave you speechless. This week, join us as we celebrate Ross’s impending fatherhood and Natalie’s fresh new look, before diving into the internet archives to cringe at Ross’s hilariously resurfaced Vines. Then, brace yourself for a “Corporate Roast” of a Moterhead’s LinkedIn post and another post showcasing the audacity of withholding pay until trust is earned. We’ll also unleash our inner hack screenwriters with some truly terrible “Workplace Movie Pitches” and play a chaotic round of “Promoted or Demoted?” featuring made up job titles and uncomfortable airplane scenarios. Finally, we tackle a listener’s tough career choice: the soul-crushing commute or a smaller paycheck? We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 29 April 2025

What’s the absolute WORST office metaphor you’ve ever heard? We’ve got a contender! In this Corporate Hotline episode, we kick things off with some truly bizarre workplace scenarios, including a spanking reference that will leave you speechless and a potential stalker situation involving our very own co-host, Ross. Then, we tackle a listener dilemma: is a gap year after graduation a good idea? We also dissect the frustrating reality of going above and beyond with no reward and share crucial tips on how not to approach your boss for a raise. This episode is packed with relatable (and sometimes unbelievable) workplace stories and actionable career advice you won’t want to miss! We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2025

Go to https://zbiotics.com/DEMOTED and use DEMOTED at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Go to https://Goodr.com/demoted and use promo code DEMOTED for Free Shipping! Hollywood secrets spilled! We’re talking auditions gone wrong, the cost of television production, and the ‘delusion’ it takes to pitch a TV show. This week, we’re thrilled to have Katie O’Brien, the Showrunner of Tubi’s “The Z-Suite”! We delve into her fascinating career, tracing her steps from improv actor to the creator of her own web series, which she then transformed into her first full-fledged TV show. Katie provides an insightful Hollywood Basics crash course on various filmmaking roles and gives us an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at creating and showrunning “The Z-Suite.” We uncover the secrets of pitching a TV show, navigate the sometimes-horrific audition process, and discuss the economics of TV show production. Plus, we learn about the roles Natalie and Ross were born to play. We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025

HR’s calling. And frankly, it’s about time. We’ve been asking for it. This week, we sit down with Mariana Garavaglia, Chief People Officer at DoorDash, to unpack her incredible journey from education to leading teams at Amazon and Peloton. Learn her top interviewing tips, the golden rule of staying on HR’s good side, and get answers to your burning “Dear Demoted” questions about job hunting and salary negotiations. Plus, find out her go-to DoorDash order and whether “work wife” is a term you should use at work. Join the movement at https://lovesac.com/demoted #reclinefromthegrind We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2025

Apartment brawls, terrifying dad dreams, and getting ghosted by your boss—it’s just another week on Demoted! On this episode, Ross recounts the details of his birthing class and the horrifying expecting father nightmare that ensued. Natalie’s officially cohabitating, and may or may not have hosted a fight night at her new apartment. Plus, we’re dishing out some seriously questionable sleep advice, discussing the perils of losing control of your remote team, and tackling a listener’s desperate “Dear Demoted” question about being ghosted by their manager. Get ready for the debut of TWO new segments: “This Guy is About to Be a Father” and “Which Host Wrote This?” Join the movement today by visiting lovesac.com/demoted #ReclineFromTheGrind We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2025

We’ve unlocked the vault of workplace weirdness, and it’s glorious. Join Ross and Natalie on this “Corporate Hotline” episode as they read listener-submitted workplace stories. Get ready for: happy hour turned twerking contest, a holiday party that left everyone scrambling for damage control, and a calendar invite that screams “red flag.” Plus, they’ll tackle the age-old question: is hooking up with your boss a good idea? (Spoiler: probably not). This episode is a wild ride through the absurdities of corporate life. Go to https://cornbreadhemp.com/DEMOTED and use promo code DEMOTED for 30% off your first order We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2025

Go to https://zbiotics.com/DEMOTED and use DEMOTED at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Is your LinkedIn feed a daily dose of cringe? Ours too. In this episode, Natalie and Ross take a deep dive into the digital circus that is LinkedIn. They trace the evolution of LinkedIn from a simple resume database to a battleground for personal brand supremacy, dissecting the most absurd posting tactics along the way. From celebrating your first forklift sale to strategically sparking online feuds with business rivals, we leave no stone unturned. We’ll also explore the attention-seeking antics of “thought leaders,” the rise of AI headshots, and how NOT to stand out on LinkedIn. Go to https://Goodr.com/demoted and use promo code DEMOTED for Free Shipping! We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 11 March 2025

If you’ve ever wondered how Natalie found the confidence to become a content creator, today’s guest, Victoria, is the one to thank. On this special episode, join Corporate Natalie as she interviews with her childhood best friend and fellow content creator, Victoria Garrick Browne. The duo dives deep into Victoria’s impactful journey from D1 volleyball at USC to founding The Hidden Opponent, a non-profit dedicated to athlete mental health. They explore navigating competitive environments and discovering their passions, highlighting the power of women supporting women, particularly in the business world. From the nuances of managing and giving feedback to employees to personal topics like romantic relationships and finding supportive partners, they cover it all. Get ready for a mix of heartfelt conversation and lighthearted fun, including sarcastic tips on workplace dynamics, a playful look at bridesmaid personalities, and even an honest assessment of Natalie’s volleyball prowess. We want to hear from you! Send in your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted questions, and Shout-outs right here: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 4 March 2025

Go to https://zbiotics.com/DEMOTED and use DEMOTED at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Ross and Natalie have some big life updates to share. Join us for a candid conversation about the joys and anxieties of big life changes. We also dive into the murky waters of office oversharing, dissecting which personal details are best kept private. Plus, we’re tackling the complexities of age gaps in the workplace, as well as offering practical advice on everything from inclusive social events to navigating promotion aspirations. Stay tuned for the etiquette of wearing silk to work, Ross’s plan to put a saddle on his golden doodle, and Natalie’s unique trivia skills. Send us your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted advice requests, and Shout-outs through the submission form below: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 25 February 2025

Money got you sweating? Let’s talk about it. This week, we’re bringing in the financial superhero you didn’t know you needed: Vivian Tu, aka Your Rich BFF. We’re diving deep into the world of personal finance, tackling everything from the taboo of discussing salaries to splitting rent with your significant other. We also explore tips for navigating the stock market, crypto, and credit card hacks you should know. You won’t want to miss her response to this challenging listener-submitted question; ‘What income level makes for a happy marriage?’ Go to https://cornbreadhemp.com/DEMOTED and use promo code DEMOTED for 30% off your first order Check out Vivian Tu’s book “Rich AF: The Winning Money Mindset that will Change your Life” and her podcast “Networth and Chill” Follow Vivian for more finance tips across socials: @YourRichBFF Send us your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted advice requests, and Shout-outs through the submission form below: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 18 February 2025

As thousands of corporate warriors return to the office, we’re going back to working from home for a ‘Remoted’ edition of Corporate Hotline. Prepare for some seriously unhinged workplace stories. On this episode of Corporate Hotline, Ross and Natalie share listener submissions that will make you grateful for your (relatively) normal coworkers. From violent outbursts leading to promotions to espresso-induced hospital visits, we cover it all. Plus, is going topless on a video call a power move? We discuss the do’s and don’ts of fantasy football team names and Cash App handles, offer tips for spicing up your Zoom calls, and even tackle the etiquette of vaping during a one-on-one. And don’t miss Ross’s previously unreleased story about a late-night encounter with an au naturel merchant! Get 15% off your first order by going to https://Blueland.com/DEMOTED Send us your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted advice requests, and Shout-outs through the submission form below: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 11 February 2025

In this episode, Corp and Natalie ask big questions like: What is AI? How does it work? Do we even care? More importantly, how can we use AI in out every day lives? Ross kicks things off with a straightforward breakdown of where AI stands today, from its many forms to its potential impact. The duo also explores how to integrate AI into both your work and personal life. They also ask the all-important question: Is AI funny?? Get ready for a brutal roast of Corporate Natalie and Corporate Bro by ChatGPT! Plus, stick around for a postmortem on a wild Washington D.C. dining experience, an encounter with a persistent salesman, and the resurrection of Natalie’s childhood reptilian graveyard. Go to https://Goodr.com/demoted and use promo code DEMOTED for Free Shipping! Send us your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted advice requests, and Shout-outs through the submission form below: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 4 February 2025

Do you have to be insane to start your own company? No, but it definitely helps. In this episode, Natalie and Ross pull back the curtain on their entrepreneurial journeys, sharing the highs, lows, and everything in between of running multiple businesses. Natalie takes us behind the scenes of her new workwear line, revealing the crucial steps—from selecting the right clothing partner to designing the products that bring her vision to life. For anyone considering a startup, they break down the solo-founder role and explore alternative paths, like joining a founding team or supporting other business creators. And because no venture succeeds without a little boldness, we’ve got a playbook full of the best cold call opening lines to help you get your foot in the door—before it slams shut. Stick around for a critical look at hunter sales roles, an unexpectedly heartfelt PSA about gas cap locations, and a few actionable tips on how to gaslight your family (in the most entertaining way possible). Shop Natalie’s workwear collection here: https://mytribe.12thtribe.com/corporatenatalie1v8 Try Notion for free when you go to https://notion.com/demoted Join the Salesblazer Community at https://sforce.co/demoted Send us your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted advice requests, and Shout-outs through the submission form below: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 28 January 2025

Sales Kickoff Season is Upon Us! Remember to stay hydrated, use the buddy system, and try not to be too memorable. Whether your company is hosting an elaborate gala event in New York City, a shoestring budget nightmare somewhere in Florida, or the dreaded virtual SKO, we have you covered with the best tips and tricks to make it through with minimal damage. Ross and Natalie will be reading confessions of not-so-lucky salespeople who fell victim to the trappings of their company’s SKO. And if you have no idea what an SKO is, you’ll hear a comprehensive breakdown of the typical event itinerary and an inside look at the off-the-books shenanigans that follow. Stay tuned for a high-speed ski chase, a VP of Sales who believes the server is in love with him, and the story of a resurfaced picture of Ross partying like an SDR in a San Diego hotel room. Go to https://cornbreadhemp.com/DEMOTED and use promo code DEMOTED for 30% off your first order Get 15% off your first order by going to https://Blueland.com/DEMOTED Join the Salesblazer Community at https://sforce.co/demoted Send us your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted advice requests, and Shout-outs through the submission form below: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 21 January 2025

If the questions ‘What do you do?’ or ‘What's your dream job?’ send you into an existential crisis, this episode is for you. As kids, society primes us to pick our dream job as if it's life's ultimate objective. But, what we as working professionals never consider is… Maybe it’s okay to not have one. Join us as Simone Stolzoff, author of ‘The Good Enough Job,’ challenges the conventional wisdom of entangling your career with your personal self-worth. In this episode, Ross, Natalie and Simone delve into the dangers of defining yourself solely by your profession and explore the consequences of neglecting other vital aspects of your life. Simone also shares his insights on navigating layoffs with resilience, overcoming different types of burnout, and cultivating fulfilling passions outside of work. Try Notion for free when you go to https://notion.com/demoted Go to https://Goodr.com/demoted and use promo code DEMOTED for Free Shipping! Join the Salesblazer Community at https://sforce.co/demoted

Transcribed - Published: 14 January 2025

You know the drill: January 1st rolls around, you’re brimming with motivation, and you swear this year will be DIFFERENT. But let’s be real, you’re probably one of the 23% of people who gives up on your New Year’s resolution by the end of the first week. Don’t worry, your fearless hosts are too. This podcast is here to help you break the cycle, ditch the doom and gloom, and actually achieve those ambitious goals. In this episode, Ross and Natalie bravely confront the ghosts of their 2024 goals. Natalie’s dreams of culinary stardom remain firmly grounded in the realm of ‘someday,’ and Ross’s hand has achieved a level of fame that would make any influencer envious. Yes, that’s right, Ross’s hand (and no other body parts) graced the silver screen in a national television commercial. The duo also demonstrates effective methods for setting realistic goals by outlining ambitious plans for the podcast in 2025. Stay tuned for advice on how to request a raise before your one-year mark and how to navigate internal career transitions. Go to https://cornbreadhemp.com/DEMOTED and use promo code DEMOTED for 30% off your first order Join the Salesblazer Community at https://sforce.co/demoted Send us your Corporate Confessions, Dear Demoted advice, and Shout-outs through the submission form below: https://forms.gle/nJc667dUL65Xh63C6

Transcribed - Published: 7 January 2025

Every Christmas dinner with extended family inevitably involves the timeless question, “So, what are you doing for work these days?” or “What do you do, again?” This can be a daunting challenge when your job description sounds like a cryptic corporate riddle that would require a PowerPoint presentation and therapy hand puppets to explain. In this episode, Ross and Natalie vividly portray their family holiday experiences, accurately predicting the chaos that awaits each other’s households. They engage in a role-playing scenario where Natalie attempts to explain her job to her Grandpa Jack. Additionally, they offer valuable tips on how to effectively communicate your esoteric corporate role to your family in a manner they can comprehend, or at least sufficiently to deter follow-up questions. Prepare yourself for a fresh wave of holiday party confessions, including an intern who vomits on the CEO’s wife, a showdown between a “work husband” and a real husband, and a heartfelt tribute to Melvin, a disgruntled manager who purposefully drove his car into the company building. Stay tuned for hazy recollections of SantaCon, childhood encounters with the terrifying mall Santa, and the enigma that is the Elf on the Shelf. Get up to 50% off Masterclass by going to https://masterclass.com/demoted Email [email protected] with your Corporate Confessions and Dear Demoted advice requests. Or use the anonymous submission form on our website, https://www.demotedpodcast.com. Now accepting voice memos!

Transcribed - Published: 24 December 2024

Is there an opportunity for career advancement at your office holiday party? Probably not. As you will hear from these stories, you may be putting your career and life at risk simply by attending. From innocent coworker hook-ups to full fledged infidelity and physical altercations, this episode explores just about everything that can go wrong at your end-of-year work party. Ross and Natalie read through listener-submitted stories of past year’s parties and give advice on how to not commit career limiting moves. Ross shares his experience attending office parties with his overzealous sales teams and Natalie describes her art of being the fun plus one. Stay tuned for a terrifying ghost story from Ross’s childhood, a PSA about spiking the office party punch bowl, and a quarter-life crisis after serving donuts to the interns. Go to https://cornbreadhemp.com/DEMOTED and use promo code DEMOTED for 30% off your first order Go to https://Goodr.com/demoted and use promo code DEMOTED for Free Shipping! Find and book top-rated doctors with ZocDoc at https://zocdoc.com/demoted Join the Salesblazer Community at https://sforce.co/demoted

Transcribed - Published: 17 December 2024

It is a natural process within the corporate ecosystem for a mentee to bloom into a mentor. A shift so delicate that Ross woke up one day to realize he had metamorphosed into an old, wise professional equipped to bestow his knowledge on a young corporate spawn. It’s a beautiful thing to witness. In this episode, Ross and Natalie discuss their experience with mentors helping guide their professional and personal lives. Ross shares the fulfillment he gets from being a mentor, and Natalie shares a touching story about her current mentor, Lauren. You’ll hear why you shouldn’t disregard peer-mentors, and the duo also gives some inadvisable techniques for locking down a top-tier mentor such as hiding in golf bags, short-circuiting elevators, or crafting voodoo dolls of your prospective mentors. Stay tuned for some responses to listener advice requests about wearing make-up in the office, whether to send an AI written poem to fire someone, and if it’s worth risking your job to rig a golf sweepstakes. Get 50% off Masterclass by going to https://masterclass.com/demoted Join the Salesblazer Community at https://salesblazer.com

Transcribed - Published: 10 December 2024

Has a corporate poltergeist ever hijacked your screen share resulting in you getting a raise? Have you ever witnessed a coworker ever try to steal a police horse? According to our listener-submitted stories, these things seem to happen all the time. In this episode, Natalie and Ross read the best stories submitted by you, the Moterheads. They explore the extremes of the corporate experience from heinous threats from managers to the inappropriate generosity to an aspiring mother. If you are not careful, listening to this episode without headphones may earn you a one-way ticket to HR. Stay tuned for lively discussions about off-hours message scheduling, leaving the airport during a layover, and piggy backing as a legit mode of transportation.

Transcribed - Published: 3 December 2024

It’s that time of year to rack your brain and come up with something to be grateful for. Out of ideas? We’ll help jog your memory. In this episode, Natalie and Ross discuss the importance of expressing gratitude at work and in life. You’ll hear targeted thanks to the most special people in the office, such as Amanda who consistently books meetings between other meetings, creating an unceasing chain of back to backs. Thank you, Amanda! They also give a much needed analysis of Thanksgiving traditions and question the legitimacy of cranberry sauce and marshmallows on yams. Stay tuned for requested advice on what to expect from corporate re-org doom, whether or not to risk a PIP by going on PTO, and how to be more socially outgoing at a new job. Find and book top-rated doctors with ZocDoc at https://zocdoc.com/demoted Get 50% off Masterclass by going to https://masterclass.com/demoted

Transcribed - Published: 26 November 2024

Two-time World Series champion, four-time MLB All-Star, and three-time email sender, Hunter Pence, joins the podcast as our first-ever guest! If you aren’t a San Francisco Giants (or baseball) fan, have no fear. In this episode, Ross and Natalie chat with Hunter Pence about his career transition from being a professional baseball player to MLB commentator and multi-business owner. He reveals how his experience developing a strong work ethic, a positive mindset, and a healthy relationship with public critique has transferred over from the sports world to the corporate world. Of course, Ross and Hunter also get to geek out about baseball, video games, and board games while Natalie politely keeps the conversation on track. Stay tuned for our regular scheduled programming of just Ross and Natalie yapping about Tahoe with the boys, watching sports with your dad, and how to laugh without smiling. Try Notion for free when you go to https://notion.com/demoted

Transcribed - Published: 19 November 2024

Is there a such thing as Corporate spooky? Yes, and it’s more terrifying than you would believe. Don’t listen to these spooky stories with the lights off. These outrageous and absurd stories have been too spooky to share until now. From a mind-boggling Google search on a shared screen to a murder at an internship to a carpool flatulence disaster that could bring tears to your eyes, these stories will give you a fright. Natalie and Ross also explore the do’s and don’t’s of celebrating Halloween in the office; they cover the main rules for dressing up for the holiday in a corporate setting, and they give tactical techniques for spreading the Halloween spirit in the office. Stay tuned for a recap of the corps’ favorite costumes over the years, Ross’s love for Hans Zimmer, and the legend of Winnie the Rizz. Try Notion for free when you go to https://notion.com/demoted

Transcribed - Published: 29 October 2024

You’ve most likely been wondering how Ross functions on a daily basis. How does he keep his business and personal life afloat despite his apparent and abundant flaws? Introducing… Becca, Ross’s business manager and wife. In this episode, Ross and Becca open up about their lives living and working together. They dig into the details of how they structure both their personal and professional relationships and go through the pros and cons of their arrangement. You’ll get a close look at who Becca was as a teacher and school principal before shifting careers to managing content creators. More importantly you'll find out if Ross was a “cool kid” in high school when they first started dating. Stay tuned for a breakdown of their shared finances, an ongoing fantasy football rivalry, and some advice on how to transition out of tech sales.

Transcribed - Published: 22 October 2024

None of these clients will be getting a friendly gift basket this holiday season. If anything, they should get a restraining order filed against them and a shot of penicillin. In this episode, Ross and Natalie read through the wildest client stories we’ve ever heard. They cover client interfacing going horribly wrong, crazy deal stories, and technical failures resulting in utter embarrassment. Hidden foot cams, threesomes, dengue fever and stool softener are among the various twists and turns these stories take. Stay tuned for some bonus stories about a glass pumpkin addiction and a tampon plumbing disaster. Try Notion for free when you go to https://notion.com/demoted

Transcribed - Published: 15 October 2024

There’s nothing like the mix of excitement and anxiety when walking into your first day of a new job. Set yourself up for success by starting out on the right foot…you’ll thank yourself later. In this episode, Natalie and Ross reflect on their first days of work in consulting and sales. They give some tips for you to employ when starting a new job that’ll lower your anxiety and help you to be productive right out of the gate. If you’re interested in making a first impression that will scar your image in your coworkers’ minds, we’ll hit you with some absolutely unhinged stunts to pull on your first day. Stay tuned for a behind the scenes discussion of Natalie staring in The Charlie Puth Show, Ross busting a stanky leg on the stage of a crowd of hundreds of people, and Natalie’s decision to laminate her eyebrows.

Transcribed - Published: 8 October 2024

According to CNBC, 57% of Gen Z Americans want to become a social media influencer. But, the road to becoming a successful content creator is long and not all glitz and glam. In this episode, Natalie and Ross discuss their social media journeys and highlight the necessary first steps toward building a life of content creation. You’ll hear about how to choose your niche, how to grow a following, and why it’s important to keep testing out new content ideas. They will share an exclusive inside look at the decisions that contributed to the success of their Corporate Bro and Corporate Natalie brands. Stay tuned for an a story of an influencer live streaming a gala dinner, Natalie’s Halloween costume plans, and the newest batch of corporate jargon.

Transcribed - Published: 1 October 2024

Performance enhancement shouldn’t only apply to top athletes. Its time we start enhancing the performance of desk-dwelling corporate warriors. Here is how its done. In this episode, Natalie and Ross discuss the various methods, rituals, supplements and substances that may or may not improve your work productivity. Whether by chugging espresso or counting 25 minute pomodoros, everyone can find simple hacks for a daily boost of focus. You’ll also hear a bunch of tricks that are inadvisable to add to your routine such as hiring high school coaches to yell at you at your desk or mix and matching various stimulants. Stay tuned for a story of a weird CEO who needs help with his morning routine, Ross’s love of smelling salts, and why you should never swear at AI.

Transcribed - Published: 24 September 2024

The life of a corporate intern isn’t supposed to be glamorous but we didn’t expect to hear such shocking stories from our listeners. Buckle up for some rapid-fire Internship confessions! In this episode, Natalie and Ross read confessions that illustrate the dramatic range of experience that young professionals are having while kicking off their careers. You’ll hear stories of drunk interns teleporting bar to bar, interns being framed for embezzling funds, interns sleeping all over the office, and interns using company funds to go to a strip club. Stay tuned for big four consulting career advice, Ross starting mascot brawls, and a friendly reminder to not stick your hand in a grizzly bear exhibit.

Transcribed - Published: 17 September 2024

Does the perfect email exist? What are the unwritten rules of corporate email? If opening your email every morning is like playing a desperate game of corporate whack-a-mole, you're not alone. In this episode, you’ll get a crash course on all the do’s and don’ts of crafting effective work emails. Natalie and Ross dive deep into the world of email etiquette by sharing best practices for professional email formatting, tips on how to get more responses to cold outreach, and ways to make your email stand out in a busy inbox. Ross explains the challenges of sales email outreach and all the out-of-the-box techniques used to grab a buyer’s attention. You’ll also get a guide on writing inflammatory subject lines that will guarantee a 100% open rate. Stay tuned for an email fail story of a Gen Z employee CCing their entire company and then proceeding to vape in the conference room.

Transcribed - Published: 10 September 2024

Is your direct report calling you “Baby Daddy”? Or maybe you have a piercing in a not-so-office appropriate place that somehow you now have to tell your boss about. Or perhaps your boss is saying “bust on” in a work setting - regardless, we got you covered. In this episode, Natalie and Ross address some absolutely absurd listener-submitted calls. They may not be licensed or certified to give advice, but thats not stopping them. They provide one listener advice on how to step into their first corporate job after college, and give another listener the best strategy for shifting from an IC to management. Stay tuned for Natalie’s group hiking experience, Venmo stalking, and Ross getting memed by Elon Musk. The Corporate Hotline is open for calls. Please submit your audio message to the submission form in the top right corner of our website. https://demotedpodcast.com

Transcribed - Published: 3 September 2024

Does rizz play a role in ascending the corporate ladder? Is it about how big your rizz is or how you use it? In this episode, Ross and Natalie break down what it means to have rizz in the workplace and why it is a factor to career success that should not be overlooked. You’ll get a crash course in how to rizz up your office that will either result in a series of promotions or a direct ticket to HR. You’ll learn how to make friends and rizzfluence people with the help of our favorite author D Carn (Dale Carnegie). If you are not yet sick of hearing the word “Rizz,” then this episode just might push you over the edge. Stay tuned for a webinar screen share disaster, a bear encounter on a golf course, and a tale of Gam Gam getting bullied. Follow the link https://www.chomps.com/demoted to purchase Chomps online or find them at a store near you!

Transcribed - Published: 27 August 2024

To go to business school or not to go to business school? In this episode, Ross goes in depth about his experience attending Stanford's Graduate School of Business. From why he went back to school at 29 years old, to how an MBA has affected his career. Natalie shares her perspective on the Stanford MBA program as a close outside observer sneaking into classes and attending all their parties and international trips. The two discuss the merits of using business school to career pivot and how to get the most out of the time there if you do decide to go. They also talk about the challenging balance of keeping up with class workloads and a robust social life. Stay tuned for some enhanced corporate icebreakers, a “touchy feely” class, and a listener-submitted story of what happened when a bridesmaid hooked up with the bride’s brother. Start Ritual or add Stress Relief to your subscription today. Go to https://ritual.com/demoted for 25% off.

Transcribed - Published: 20 August 2024

The job search these days feels more impossible than it ever has. No better reason to be ready to crush a job interview when the opportunity arises. In this episode, Corp and Nat share some best practices on how to put your best self forward in a job interview. They also reminisce about their early interview failures, including a particularly spooky story of Ross being given a phone in the middle of a sales interview to do a surprise cold call. You’ll hear a listener-submitted advice request about how to maintain your sales leaderboard positions. Stay tuned for takes on getting a keratin treatment, non-romantic adult sleepovers, and practice pitching in an empty parking structure. Follow the link https://www.chomps.com/demoted to purchase Chomps online or find them at a store near you! Check out the Silly Valley News newsletter at https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/silly-valley-news-7211044838354362368 For the founder dinner story check out the beginning of the Nightmare Bosses: Part 1 episode: https://youtu.be/QtaQewgmmr0

Transcribed - Published: 13 August 2024

Is going into the sales profession a worthwhile career move? If you can handle the stress and rejection… maybe. Ross reveals the unmitigated truth of a career in sales, explaining the struggle of hitting quota quarter after quarter, the grind of cold prospecting, and the joy of closing a deal. Natalie discusses how her impression of sales and salespeople has evolved since working with Ross and overseeing sales motions for her own startup. You’ll hear how even if you’re not in a sales role, the soft skill of selling can be applied throughout your career and life. Stay tuned for an unhinged sales cold call recording, tips on how to make work feels more like a vacation, and an exclusive sample of Natalie’s shower singing skills.

Transcribed - Published: 6 August 2024

Is an 8am meeting ever okay? Ross and Natalie revisit the controversy surrounding their early podcasting cancelation by digging deeper into the ideal time to meet for work-related calls. Spoiler, it’s not at 8am. They also share tips on ways to set boundaries at work in a way that's not off putting and will be appreciated by coworkers. The hosts discuss the most common things that motivate employees and what's motivated them in their personal careers. Of course they also give examples of the absolute worst ways to motivate employees, including but not limited to: pizza parties, company loyalty points, and ejector seats. Stay tuned for worst practices when packing for vacation, advice on corporate revenge, and the unique appeal of a breakfast buffet. Follow the link https://www.chomps.com/demoted to purchase Chomps online or find them at a store near you! Check out https://https://thehustle.co/ to read The Hustle newsletter.

Transcribed - Published: 30 July 2024

It’s wedding season, baby! Time to write that toast you’ve been putting off for weeks for your friend. Lucky for you, Ross and Natalie have the perfect framework to deliver a heartfelt, funny speech that will make everyone at the wedding come up to you and say “hey that was a great toast.” The duo also tells you things to avoid, and even go as far as to describe how to give the worst speech imaginable that may get you physically removed from the venue. In addition to a full-on course in speech writing do’s and don’ts, you’ll also hear some stories about Ross’s followers marrying their coworkers. These stories include marketing girls banished to the sales pit, point-blank tinder swiping, and the romantic fate of a small bladder. Stay tuned to hear about Corporate Natalie hitting 1 million followers on Instagram and Corp waxing his back to celebrate. Start Ritual or add Stress Relief to your subscription today. Go to https://ritual.com/demoted for 25% off.

Transcribed - Published: 23 July 2024

You might not have known this is an educational podcast but you’re gunna learn today. Ross and Natalie share their tested methods of subtly asserting dominance in the workplace, from power leans to de-magnetizing key fobs. As a self-proclaimed restroom aficionado, Ross gives a DemoTED Talk titled “The Throne Room: Mastering the Art of Workplace Bathroom Etiquette”. Is it ever okay to play TikTok videos at full volume from the big stall? You’ll find out in this exclusive seminar. They also give some advice to a Moterhead on how to better control their non-verbal cues on Zoom calls. Stay tuned for Gam Gam’s 90th, charitable magic show volunteers, and Ross’s A.I. digital twin malfunctioning on air. Follow the link https://www.chomps.com/demoted to purchase Chomps online or find them at a store near you!

Transcribed - Published: 16 July 2024

Welcome to the Demoted Live Show… recap episode! We went out and did a secret live show and in this episode, you’ll hear all about it (and perhaps learn how to score an invite to the next one). Ross and Natalie break down their first Demoted live show where they interviewed ZoomInfo’s CEO, Henry Schuck. You’ll get to hear some audio of him handling the onslaught of roasts and fiery questions. They cover his background in building a successful company, ask personal rapid fire questions, and confront him with some terrible GlassDoor reviews. The hosts run through some FAQs about their future live shows including how the show will advance your career, what your pre-game routine should be, and where the special seating section for salespeople is located. If your company is interested in hosting a live show, we’ll invite your CEO up on stage and absolutely roast them (in the most humanizing way possible, of course). Email [email protected] if you’re interested.

Transcribed - Published: 9 July 2024

Q3 is coming in hot! In this episode, Ross and Natalie review each other’s performances over the first half of the year, covering vulnerability scores, friendship ratings, and even carpool ability. The hosts share their hopes for the rest of the year and set goals for live shows and maybe even bringing on some guests. Stay tuned for a comparison of bachelor and bachelorette parties, confessions from Deloitte University, and Natalie’s experience with a truly awful dentist.

Transcribed - Published: 2 July 2024

We all know Corporate Natalie. But who is Real Natalie? In this episode, Natalie’s roommate and co-founder Katrina enters the studio to grill Natalie on your most-asked questions. She reveals first-hand accounts of what it is like to both live and work with Natalie. Natalie opens up about her journey to finding self-confidence, her challenges of dating while in the public eye, and navigating her completely new reality while living with three roommates. You’ll hear stories about Katrina pretending to be Natalie’s assistant, horrible first dates, and a late-night odyssey on the big island of Hawaii. Don’t worry, Ross has not been fired... yet. He’ll be back for next week’s episode.

Transcribed - Published: 25 June 2024

Let’s talk about giving and receiving… feedback. Ross and Natalie share their experiences receiving feedback - from Natalie learning the proper use of icons in consulting decks to Ross receiving a harsh critique of his comedy series script. The duo breaks down Kim Scott’s concept of Radical Candor as a constructive method of giving feedback in the workplace. They, of course, also explore some methods of giving destructive criticism to direct reports to ensure they never grow or prosper in their role. Stay tuned for a glimpse into what Ross has been learning in his executive coaching sessions, a sense of what it would be like to go to a fancy dinner with Ross and Natalie, and a critical analysis of ghost riding the whip. Follow the link chomps.com/demoted to purchase Chomps online or find them at a store near you!

Transcribed - Published: 18 June 2024

It’s story time! Ross and Natalie read the most outrageous listener-submitted stories and share some wild stories of their own. From a breakup overheard on Zoom, to a coworker referring to himself as “Daddy,” to a company auctioning off employees. Natalie witnesses a corporate rap battle and Ross gives a play-by-play recap of his recent doctor’s appointment. Stay tuned for honest takes on Pen Pals, golf academies, BottleRock, and the now banned Jack3d workout supplement.

Transcribed - Published: 11 June 2024

Happy hour is when the real business gets done. Corp and Natalie read through listener-submitted confessions that paint a startling picture of company drinking cultures. Brace yourself for stories of coworker hookups, drunken divulgences, face slaps, and a creative application of hot wax. They also reflect on their own happy hour experiences working in sales and consulting and share some tips on how to survive and thrive in these sloppy environments. If you are looking for ways to spice up your in-office conversations, Natalie and Ross have you covered with a quick seminar on corporate jargon dirty talk. Stay tuned for discussions about the role of humor in the workplace, the legality of closing deals with drunk prospects, and the ethics of canceling a meeting due to a hangover.

Transcribed - Published: 4 June 2024

Did you know people are more afraid of public speaking than spiders, heights and death? In this episode Natalie and Corp discuss how they have overcome their own fears of public speaking. They’ll also talk about their first times giving speeches in high school and how they’ve evolved to now speaking professionally in fireside chats, panel discussions and keynote addresses. You will hear great advice on how to capitalize on your next public speaking opportunity, as well as some bad advice that is sure to result in public shame should you follow it. They also read a couple more horrible boss confessions from listeners that were too wild not to include. Stay tuned for a behind the scenes look at wild west commercial shoots, a desperate plea for an invite to a yacht party, and a tale of four brave women’s battle against an eight-legged monster.

Transcribed - Published: 28 May 2024

Are you coming to the Demoted conference? Ross and Natalie dive deep into the world of corporate conferences; the good, the bad, and the virtual. You’ll get a crash course of the do’s and don’t’s of conference etiquette. They also plan out the perfect Demoted Conference complete with a swimsuit chic dress code, hot tub round tables, and a workshop on tastefully sexting your colleagues. Get ready for some wild conference confessions from our listeners featuring top-performers kissing clients and an overpaid account executive snorting sheetrock (yes, you read that correctly). Stay tuned for complex coffee orders, a debate on strong-grip handshakes, and what it’s like not being cool enough to live in LA.

Transcribed - Published: 21 May 2024

What does B2B Sales and proposing to your girlfriend have in common? You might be surprised. As connoisseurs of LinkedIn cringe, Ross and Natalie dissect recent outrageous posts and give advice on how you can craft your own cringe on the platform. Ross tells the story of how he was banned from LinkedIn and Natalie reads his departing rage post. They also answer classic listener submitted questions such as, “What do I do next as a top performer?” and “How do I ask my coworker about their cult?” Stay tuned for travel highlights from Ross’s trip to Portugal and his swashbuckling OOO message. This podcast is sponsored by MANSCAPED. Get 20% off + free shipping with the promo code "DEMOTED" at manscaped.com

Transcribed - Published: 14 May 2024

To return or not to return? Natalie and Corp discuss the pros and cons of returning to the office and working from home. They reminisce about adjusting to work from home while sharing a living space with others, creating content from quarantine, and dealing with a sudden lack of inspiration. Ross answers a listener submitted question about whether he would recommend pivoting to a career in Sales. While championing the sale profession, he thoroughly explains why it’s not the career for everyone. Stay tuned for a desperate plea to recruit female soccer players, advice on road tripping with your boss, and a follow-up story of Ross getting ill from an underground bathhouse.

Transcribed - Published: 7 May 2024

Corp and Natalie are back with more terrible boss stories! This time they are reading through Ross’s followers’ submissions. And if we know anything about his predominantly sales audience, we know these stories are going to be epic. The episode also unpacks a spicy sales love-triangle scandal exposed in the most unlikely of places - LinkedIn. Stay tuned to find out what it's like to have Ross and Natalie as your boss. We hear first-hand accounts from their employees telling tales of sweet treats, fart noises, firing directors, and method acting in sketchy hotels.

Transcribed - Published: 30 April 2024