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BiggerPockets Money Podcast

BiggerPockets Money Podcast

BiggerPockets

Investing, Education, Business

4.6 • 2.9K Ratings

Overview

For those who have money… or want more of it! Join Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench (from BiggerPocketsMoney.com) weekly for the BiggerPockets Money Podcast. Each week, financial experts Mindy and Scott interview unique and powerful thought leaders about how to earn more, keep more, spend smarter, and grow wealth.

680 Episodes

Investor Retires in 6 Years ($120K/Year) by Doing This

On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast Mindy and Scott are joined by Beau Webb. Beau went from flying Blackhawk helicopters in the Army to achieving financial independence in his 30s through a diversified investment strategy that goes way beyond basic index funds. Beau built wealth through real estate, and savvy use of military benefits while still crushing it in traditional markets. But here's what makes his story even more powerful - he's living proof that you CAN retire early in just ten years if you save and invest strategically. His approach blends real estate investing, the smart use of military benefits, and disciplined plays in traditional markets. The result? Multiple streams of income that comfortably cover his lifestyle — all without tapping his retirement accounts. Beau's story proves that you can reach FI in as little as ten years, not by living on rice and beans, but by leveraging creative financing, making intentional moves, and thinking bigger than conventional financial advice allows. This Episode Covers: The exact house hacking strategies Beau used to build his first income streams Creative financing techniques that work even with limited starting capital How to maximize VA loan benefits for accelerated wealth building Why mobile home parks and self-storage became Beau's secret weapons Building multiple income streams that cover lifestyle costs without touching retirement accounts Diversification strategies across real estate and traditional markets The ten-year FI timeline: realistic expectations vs. extreme sacrifice How to leverage unique advantages (military or otherwise) for faster wealth building And SO much more! 00:00 Introduction to Today's Guest 01:14 Military Background and Financial Beginnings 05:42 First Steps into Real Estate 07:52 House Hacking  10:34 First Duplex Purchase 16:17 Expanding the Real Estate Portfolio 19:42 Diverse Investment Strategies 21:38 Seller Financing  28:28 Expanding the Portfolio 31:49 Achieving Financial Independence 34:36 Life as a Full-Time Investor 37:47 Connect with Beau! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 15 August 2025

How to Build a Business That’ll Replace Your 9-5 | Hala Taha

What does it take to transform from a $27,000-a-year employee into an eight-figure entrepreneur? Hala Taha, founder of YAP Media, joins Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench on the BiggerPockets Money podcast to reveal the mindset shifts, strategic decisions, and hard-won lessons that built her media empire. This isn't just another success story – it's a masterclass in entrepreneurial thinking, strategic pivoting, and building scalable systems that generate massive wealth. This Episode Covers: How to identify and overcome limiting beliefs about money Scaling from solo operator to eight-figure company Cash flow management in unpredictable business cycles Investment strategies specifically for business owners Balancing reinvestment vs. personal wealth building And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 12 August 2025

How Regular People Can Achieve Coast FI in Their 30s

Coast FI is a fascinating concept that's gaining traction in the financial independence community. And no, to Mindy's disappointment, it doesn't involve having enough money to live beachside (though the lifestyle can be just as relaxing). Unlike the extreme FIRE approach that dominates personal finance blogs—where you're told to save every penny, never eat out, and forget about vacations—Coast FI offers a more sustainable path to early retirement. Enter Jessica and Corey from The Fioneers, who've proven this gentler approach actually works. When they discovered the FI movement, they were earning just $30,000 combined—hardly a six-figure head start. As their income grew, so did their savings rate, but Jessica quickly realized that climbing the corporate ladder came with a hidden cost. The stress became so overwhelming that she needed a six-month mental health break from work. That break changed everything. Jessica never returned to traditional employment, instead building her own business. Today, she and Corey have achieved what they call "slow FI"—they're Coast FI with complete time autonomy, still enjoying travel and comfortable living, while on track to retire in their early 50s. They're living proof that financial independence doesn't require sacrificing your mental health, relationships, or joy along the way. Their story challenges the narrative that you must choose between financial freedom and actually living your life. Sometimes, the scenic route gets you exactly where you need to go. In This Episode We Cover Coast FI explained and how it’s a far more enjoyable alternative to standard financial independence Saving and investing even while making a below-median income salary  Resisting lifestyle creep and how to use pay raises to increase your net worth The danger of going “too fast to FI” and how retiring too early can be a detriment Part-time jobs, side hustles, and other ways that you can make more apart from your W2 Spending money to “escape” and how quitting a stressful job could save you more money And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 8 August 2025

How to Reach Coast FIRE (The Relaxed Way to Retire!)

Tired of the extreme saving grind? What if there was a way to front-load your retirement savings and then "coast" to financial independence without the stress? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down Coast FI - the strategy that lets you stop aggressive saving in your 30s while still retiring comfortably at 65. Coast FI isn't about retiring early - it's about retiring the anxiety around retirement savings. Once you hit your Coast FI number, compound interest does the heavy lifting while you focus on living your life. This approach offers the perfect middle ground between traditional retirement planning and extreme FIRE strategies. This Episode Will Cover: How to calculate your personal Coast FI number Investment strategies that maximize compound growth The psychological freedom that comes with hitting Coast FI Real examples of Coast FI timelines and scenarios Why this might be the perfect FIRE strategy for most people And SO much more! 00:38 What is Coast FIRE 02:16 How to Achieve Coast FI 05:56 Calculate Your Coast FI Number 07:54 Coast Fire by Age 09:21 Passive Income and Coast Fire 19:52 Investment Strategies for Coast Fire 22:40 Investment Order of Operations 28:15 Connect with Scott and Mindy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 5 August 2025

How “Regular” People Can Achieve FIRE (Early Retirement) by 40!

Join hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench as they sit down with Cody Garrett, a former musician turned financial planner who discovered the FIRE movement seven years ago and is now just four years away from achieving financial independence by age 40. Cody's unique dual perspective—as both someone actively pursuing FIRE and a professional helping others achieve it—makes this conversation particularly valuable for anyone on their own early retirement journey. Cody shares the practical strategies, mindset shifts, and career decisions that accelerated his path to financial freedom. He breaks down his personal approach to portfolio management, explains how to avoid the lifestyle inflation trap, and discusses building multiple income streams through business ventures. Whether you're contemplating a career change, looking to optimize your FIRE timeline, or seeking guidance from someone who's walking the walk, this episode is packed with actionable insights you can implement immediately. This Episode Covers: Cody's journey from musician to financial planner and FIRE discovery Strategic career pivoting to accelerate financial independence Portfolio theory and investment strategies for early retirement Avoiding lifestyle inflation while building wealth The importance of finding your "why" for financial independence And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 1 August 2025

Are We Heading Into a Recession? J Scott Breaks It Down

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by real estate expert J Scott to break down the mixed signals dominating today's economic landscape. Are we or we not heading into a recession? They discuss what's really happening with GDP growth, consumer spending patterns, and the evolving nature of work itself. From the rise of gig economy jobs that complicate traditional employment metrics to the unprecedented challenges facing businesses nationwide, this deep-dive conversation reveals the nuances behind the economic data that directly impacts your financial decisions. This Episode Covers: Key indicators of a recession Analysis of recent conflicting economic headlines Differing impacts on consumer spending and employment trends Influence of tariffs and the rising wave of business bankruptcies Potential economic impact of artificial intelligence Importance of portfolio diversification during uncertain times And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 29 July 2025

How to Fast Track Your Path to FIRE | The Wealth Ladder

In this insightful episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench delve into the practical steps for building wealth with financial writer Nick Maggiulli. They discuss his new book, 'The Wealth Ladder,' which introduces a six-level wealth ladder for assessing and enhancing one's financial strategy. From establishing emergency savings in level one to focusing on investment choices in level three and contemplating business decisions in levels five and six, Nick provides a comprehensive guide across different stages of wealth. The episode is perfect for anyone aiming to grasp a structured approach to financial independence and learn how to adapt their strategies as their wealth grows. This episode cover: The Wealth Ladder (All 6 Levels) How to adjust your portfolio over time The importance of increasing your income Balancing lifestyle upgrades with sustainable financial growth And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 25 July 2025

How to Achieve Financial Independence in the Military

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench, along with guest David Pere, delve deep into achieving financial independence while serving in the military. They discuss the unique advantages of military benefits, such as zero-cost healthcare and housing allowances, and how these can be leveraged to fast-track financial independence. The episode is packed with actionable advice and real-life examples to inspire military personnel to build wealth and achieve financial freedom. This Episode Covers:  Budgeting effectively while enlisted Understanding military pay structures The power of house hacking and live-in flips, and investment strategies tailored specifically for service members. They explore the potential of achieving substantial net worth through disciplined savings and smart investing, even within an eight-year service commitment. And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 22 July 2025

The Portfolio Strategy That Could Double Your Safe Withdrawal Rate

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench welcome Frank Vasquez back on to challenge everything you thought you knew about safe withdrawal rates. Frank reveals how a properly constructed risk parity portfolio can support a 5% withdrawal rate—meaning you could comfortably pull $125,000 annually from a $2.5 million portfolio without the traditional fear of running out of money. This isn't theoretical; it's a practical strategy that sophisticated investors have been using for decades. Frank takes listeners step-by-step through building this portfolio on Fidelity, demonstrating real-world implementation rather than just concepts. You'll discover how mathematical principles like the Fibonacci sequence can guide your allocation decisions, why traditional diversification falls short, and how to rebalance effectively without overthinking the process. Most importantly, Frank shows how to customize this approach to your specific situation, making risk parity accessible whether you're approaching FIRE or already financially independent. This Episode Covers: Risk parity fundamentals - Understanding true diversification beyond stocks and bonds Asset class breakdown - Specific investments across equities, bonds, commodities, and alternatives Rebalancing strategies - When and how to adjust your portfolio without constant tinkering Withdrawal techniques - Practical methods for taking income from multiple asset classes And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 18 July 2025

The Portfolio that Supports a 5% Safe Withdrawal Rate | Frank Vasquez

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by Frank Vasquez, host of the Risk Parity Radio Podcast. Frank introduces the concept of a risk parity portfolio. Rather than relying on traditional stock-heavy portfolios, Frank reveals how strategic diversification across asset classes can potentially support higher withdrawal rates while actually reducing your risk of running out of money. The conversation covers the nuances of structuring a portfolio with equities, bonds, and alternative assets like gold and managed futures. They also explore the implications of real estate investments and the timing of transitioning from an accumulation to a decumulation strategy. Frank shares insights on the importance of balanced withdrawals, the challenges of adhering to conventional investment philosophies, and the need to move towards a holistic view of financial independence that includes well-being and responsible spending. We Discuss:  Why the standard 60/40 portfolio may be failing FIRE investors Optimal allocation strategies across equities, bonds, and alternative assets The critical timing of portfolio transitions as retirement approaches Strategic withdrawal approaches that prioritize longevity over accumulation The psychological shift from wealth accumulation to wealth optimization And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 15 July 2025

The Best Investing Order of Operations for FIRE (2025)

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench discuss the order of operations for investing your money to achieve FIRE. They outline the steps for both traditional early retirees and those looking to invest in real estate (or start a business).  If you’re a beginner in the FIRE movement, start here and work through these steps to FIRE the fastest. If you’re close to FIRE already or at a significant financial milestone, don’t worry. We have tips you can use right now to retire earlier and avoid the “middle-class trap” that kills so many FIRE dreams.The episode dives deep into why each step is essential and provides actionable tips for maximizing your investment strategy based on your personal goals. What We Discuss: Investing Order of Operations for FIRE Invest Order of Operations for Real Estate Investors Why we prioritize a Fully Funded 401(k) over a Roth IRA And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 8 July 2025

How I'm Accessing My IRA at 45 (Without Paying Penalties)

Want to access your IRA before turning 59½ without paying the brutal 10% early withdrawal penalty? You're not alone, and there are completely legal ways to do it that most people never learn about. In this comprehensive guide, John Bowens from Equity Trust will walk us through the exact strategies that allow you to tap into your IRA funds for early retirement, major expenses, or financial emergencies while staying on the right side of the IRS. This episode delves into the serious considerations and potential consequences of accessing IRA funds before retirement age. It highlights the penalties and tax implications of early withdrawals, emphasizing the disruption to the growth of retirement savings. The discussion includes valid exceptions for penalty-free withdrawals, such as higher education expenses and first-time home purchases, while stressing the importance of evaluating all options and consulting with a financial advisor. Listeners are encouraged to weigh the immediate need against long-term financial health to make informed decisions. What You'll Learn in This Episode: Legal penalty-free withdrawal strategies that bypass the 10% early withdrawal penalty IRS-approved exceptions including first-time home purchases, higher education costs, and medical expenses Tax implications of early IRA withdrawals and how they affect your overall financial picture Long-term impact analysis of early withdrawals on your retirement savings growth Alternative funding sources to consider before tapping into your IRA When to consult a financial advisor and what questions to ask Step-by-step evaluation process for weighing immediate needs against future financial security Documentation requirements and proper procedures for penalty-free withdrawals And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 4 July 2025

Your Complete Guide to Financial Independence (2025)

The FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement has transformed how people think about work, money, and retirement. In this comprehensive episode, Mindy and Scott break down everything you need to know about achieving financial independence and potentially retiring decades earlier than traditional retirement age. We explore the mathematics behind FIRE, different approaches to the movement, and practical strategies for dramatically increasing your savings rate. From understanding the 4% rule to optimizing your investment portfolio, this episode provides a complete roadmap for anyone interested in financial independence. Perfect for both beginners exploring the concept and those already on their FIRE journey looking to optimize their approach. What We Discuss: The 4% Rule Explained How to calculate your FIRE number  Proven strategies to save 50%+ of your income  Best investment vehicles for FIRE (401k, IRA, taxable accounts)  Common FIRE mistakes to avoid  Updated strategies for 2025 market conditions Withdrawal strategies And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 1 July 2025

Wall Street Pro Reveals Why He Ditched Trading for Index Funds

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy and Scott speak with Victor Haghani, a seasoned financial expert whose journey from Wall Street titan to FIRE advocate will transform how you think about wealth building. Victor's path from Salomon Brothers and Long-Term Capital Management to founding Elm Wealth reveals the shocking truth: the complex strategies that made millions on Wall Street pale in comparison to simple index fund investing for achieving financial independence. What We Discuss: Why Victor's billion-dollar trading experience led him to index funds The age-based asset allocation strategy that adapts as you approach FI The psychological traps that derail FIRE journeys (even for Wall Street pros) Practical portfolio management for the path to financial independence And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 27 June 2025

How to FIRE Without Investing in Real Estate

You're eager to build serious wealth, but the idea of managing tenants, fixing toilets, handling trash issues, and dealing with the endless headaches that come with real estate investing makes you cringe. Even though we're the world's largest platform for real estate investors, we totally understand that the landlord life isn't suited for everyone. The great news? Real estate is definitely not your only ticket to wealth. There are five other proven methods to accumulate serious money that won't have you answering frantic tenant calls at 2 A.M. On today's episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy and Scott team up to reveal the five most effective wealth-building strategies that don't require purchasing a single rental property. These approaches are accessible to virtually anyone, regardless of your current salary or existing savings account balance. Some of these strategies are extremely passive, needing only a few minutes monthly to kickstart your wealth accumulation, while others have the potential to dramatically boost your earnings but demand considerably more active participation. In this episode, you'll learn: The five ways to get rich WITHOUT investing in real estate  The four “levers” of wealth you can pull to level up your financial lifestyle “Boring” businesses and HUGE investment opportunities for those in their 20s, 30s, or 40s Job hopping and why you could be underpaid and overworked at your current role The investment accounts that can expedite your path to becoming a millionaire The super passive investment anyone can use to build massive wealth in the background And SO Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 24 June 2025

Is Your FIRE Strategy Wrong? The Middle Class Trap Debate with Brad Barrett

Buying a house, maxing out your 401(k), and leveraging real estate are considered the gold standard for building wealth, but what if these strategies are actually sabotaging your early retirement? Today, we're diving into the controversial "middle-class trap" debate with Brad Barrett from the ChooseFI podcast! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Is your net worth locked up in home equity and retirement accounts you can't access? Brad, Mindy, and Scott are having a friendly but fierce debate about whether this middle-class trap is real or just financial fear-mongering, breaking down strategies to avoid it and revealing the ideal portfolio for early retirees. In this episode, you'll learn: If the Middle Class Trap is real or not! The difference between your Net Worth vs. FI Number The Psychological Barriers to Financial Freedom And SO Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 20 June 2025

The Proven Path to Financial Independence in Your 40s

On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with Dave Fleischer, a teacher who's proving that you don't need a six-figure salary to achieve financial independence. If you've ever felt discouraged because your FI number seems impossibly high or your current salary feels too small to build real wealth, this episode will completely shift your perspective by showing that financial independence isn't about how much you make, but how strategically you manage what you have.  Whether you're a teacher, earn a median income, or simply want to see how creative financial planning can accelerate your journey to freedom, you'll discover actionable strategies that work regardless of your income level and prove that YOU can follow this simple path to achieve financial freedom too. In this episode, you'll learn: How Dave and his wife became net worth millionaires at 39 years old. Can one move change your life? Living below your means is key to building wealth. If you can downsize your lifestyle, it is a cheat code. And SO Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 17 June 2025

How to Access Retirement Funds Early Using the 72(t) Strategy

On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with John Bowens from Equity Trust. John is an expert on the often-overlooked 72(t)t rule that could be a game-changer for early retirees. This often misunderstood withdrawal strategy allows people under 59.5 to tap into their retirement accounts without facing the brutal 10% early withdrawal penalty that typically guards these funds. John breaks down the complex world of Substantially Equal Periodic Payments (SEPP), walking listeners through the different calculation methods, critical liquidity considerations, and smart investment strategies that can make or break a 72T IRA approach. In this episode, you'll learn: How to access retirement funds early with the often overlooked 72(t) rule Avoiding 401(k) penalties and using retirement accounts to actually retire early  The rules and regulations you MUST follow to withdraw penalty-free  And SO Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 13 June 2025

Money with Katie: Breaking Free from the Middle-Class Money Trap

Katie Gatti Tassin from "Money with Katie" escaped the middle-class wealth trap of endless working and spending by having her "financial awakening" early. Through just a few years of self-education she more than doubled her income, built a profitable business, and mastered retirement investing and passive income strategies. She's documented all of these wealth-building strategies in her new book "Rich Girl Nation: Taking Charge of Our Financial Futures," which you can pre-order today.  You'll learn the exact mindset shifts and actionable steps that transformed Katie's financial life and how you can replicate her success to break free from the cash-gobbling cycle and skyrocket your own net worth. In this episode, you'll learn: The “financial awakening” that’ll have you saving more and spending less Tracking spending in real-time is crucial for financial awareness.  Financial “truths” that could destroy your wealth if you follow them Earning more money requires smart strategies, not just hard work. And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 10 June 2025

4% Rule Creator Bill Bengen Reveals His NEW 5% Retirement Strategy

The 4% rule just got a major update! Bill Bengen, the creator of the famous 4% withdrawal rule, returns to share his latest research that's changing retirement planning forever. Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Discover why he's now recommending a 4.7% withdrawal rate and what this means for YOUR retirement strategy. In this episode, you'll learn: Why Bill Bengen updated his iconic 4% rule after decades of research The psychology behind why retirees struggle to actually spend their money How market conditions should influence your withdrawal strategy The role real estate plays in a well-diversified retirement portfolio Active vs. passive management strategies for retirees How younger retirees should approach their investment timeline differently Why protecting your principal matters more than maximizing returns The importance of controlling expenses and finding purpose beyond money And SO Much More! Whether you're planning for retirement or already retired, this conversation will reshape how you think about withdrawal rates, portfolio management, and creating a sustainable financial future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 6 June 2025

The Ultimate Guide to Asset Protection: LLCs, Insurance & Partnerships

Do you really need an LLC for rentals? What kind of insurance should you get? With so many questions (and confusion) surrounding asset protection for real estate investors, we’ve brought on an expert to set the record straight so you can protect your assets—without going overboard or breaking the bank! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Today, we’re chatting with real estate attorney and fellow investor Bonnie Galam about the nuances of asset protection. The truth is that there are two sides to this coin, but most investors only focus on the defensive or “reactive” side. Bonnie will show you the keys to 360-degree protection—like setting up strong legal structures before problems arise and the essential documentation you should have from day one. You’ll also learn about the potential pitfalls of equity partnerships, how personal events can put your properties at risk, and why car insurance and prenups matter more for your portfolio than you might think. Asset protection doesn’t have to be complicated, but it does need to be strategic, and this episode will help you prioritize what’s important now, what can wait, and how to create a legal framework that evolves as your real estate portfolio grows! In This Episode We Cover: Two sides of asset protection to focus on when starting a real estate business Three actionable steps new investors can take to protect their assets today Why you need to create an estate plan (even if you don’t have rentals yet!) How much you should expect to pay for different types of legal protection Debt versus equity partnerships (and why one is better for asset protection) And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 3 June 2025

The “Set It and Forget It” Path to FIRE by Your 40s

If you invest consistently, reaching FIRE (financial independence, retire early) by your mid-40s is absolutely possible. These two financial-freedom-chasing twins are proof of it! Only in their 20s, both Andy and Oliver from Twin Finances have six-figure net worths, rental properties, and fully-loaded stock accounts! Conveniently, right after getting their first jobs, they found out about the FIRE movement, and have been quickly approaching their FIRE numbers ever since! Andy and Oliver have made substantial financial progress in just six years by doing what’s simple—a “set it and forget it” investing strategy that means less stress and faster FIRE. With $2M FIRE goals each, they’ve got a big gap to fill, but starting in their 20s gives them a huge leg up. In this episode, they break down their net worths, assets, and how they balance stocks and real estate to stay on track for FIRE by 45!  Are you new to the FIRE movement? Check out Andy and Oliver’s beginner channel for personal finance, Twin Finances, and subscribe to BiggerPockets Money! In This Episode We Cover The “set it and forget it” investing strategy for FIRE by your mid-40s  Why you MUST be flexible with your FIRE number as your life changes  How to handle market corrections and crashes without losing your FIRE progress  Andy and Oliver’s impressive net worths (they’re only in their 20s!) Combining rental properties and consistent stock investing to diversify your FIRE income And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-645 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 30 May 2025

Leaving His Job at 36 to Give Back, NOT Get Rich During FI

For many of us, FI (financial independence) isn’t just about having the biggest bank account. Growing wealth is one thing, but getting rich isn’t the goal. Freedom, time with loved ones, and giving back to your community are. So, when he reached the millionaire mark and achieved Coast FI, Ryan Brennan knew it was time to leave his new director role and focus on something that fueled his FIRE in a non-financial way. But, how did he get to a seven-figure net worth in his mid-30s anyway? A few very savvy (and repeatable) money moves catapulted Ryan’s net worth, allowing him to reach a level of financial freedom three decades before traditional retirement age. Through smart investing, unconventional living, and using his money to multiply his investments, Ryan secured the financial runway to enjoy a long sabbatical, doing what he truly loves—service work. After multiple volunteering trips, Ryan started the FI Service Corps, a group for those on their way to (or at) FI to give back to the community and help others in less fortunate positions. Ryan and his FI Service friends have helped build houses for qualifying low-income families, laid floors, and painted for Habitat for Humanity, and done it all while staying on track for early retirement. Want to give back, too? Join Ryan on a FI Service Corps volunteer trip!  In This Episode We Cover Repeatable money moves Ryan made to reach Coast FI by 36  Why financial independence is so much more than just growing your net worth (it’s about giving back!) How to know you’re ready to take a sabbatical or quit your job  The live-in flip house hack strategy that will supercharge your FIRE progress  Why Slow FI may be even better than retiring as early as possible  How to join Ryan and other FI friends on a trip to help those in need And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-644 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 27 May 2025

If No One Follows the 4% Rule, What IS the Right Withdrawal Rate?

Most people assume the “safe withdrawal rate” for retirement (or early retirement) is 4%. But, if that’s the case, why is it SO hard to find anyone who’s gotten to their FIRE number, quit their job, and lived entirely off of the 4% rule? If the 4% rule is so safe and backed by solid math, why are so few FIRE followers confident enough to actually use it? We don’t know. So we asked Karsten, AKA “Big Ern,” from Early Retirement Now to help answer! Karsten has done the math, and the 4% rule checks out. But even he, an early retiree, doesn’t follow it. So, instead of the safe withdrawal rate, what’s the comfortable withdrawal rate early retirees should be following to FIRE on time and with less stress? And with turbulence in today’s stock market, and rising prices (which cause your spending to rise), what does the right FIRE portfolio look like? Karsten walks through how your portfolio should change as you approach FIRE. He explains why hedging with cash-flowing assets may be a smart move, how much cash to keep on hand, and whether those reserves can actually protect against sequence risk. Plus, should you pay off your mortgage on the path to FIRE? Scott and Karsten offer two different perspectives on whether it’s smarter to pay off your mortgage or invest that money instead. If you’re planning to FIRE, this is info you need to know! In This Episode We Cover Is the 4% rule math or myth, and why doesn’t anyone actually trust it enough to use it? The optimal FIRE portfolio for less risk and higher potential returns  Cash reserves and emergency “buckets” to limit your sequence of returns risk  Should you pay off your mortgage early or invest that money instead? One smart hedge to protect your portfolio against a stock market downturn  And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-643 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 23 May 2025

No, Taxes Won’t Derail Your FIRE: Here’s What You’ll Really Pay in Retirement

No, Taxes Won’t Derail Your FIRE: Here’s What You’ll Really Pay in Retirement Podcast Description Taxes in retirement have been called a “silent wealth killer” for those pursuing FIRE—but does the data tell a different story? If you’re worried about a ticking tax bomb wiping out a huge chunk of your investment portfolio or even delaying early retirement, you won’t want to miss this one! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Today, we’re joined by fellow investor and self-proclaimed data nerd Mark Livingstone, who has created a free resource and spreadsheet YOU can use to estimate your tax burden in retirement. For most early retirees, taxes are negligible compared to the amount of income they can withdraw, and Mark will demonstrate this with a step-by-step walkthrough of his powerful FIRE tax tool! Along the way, you’ll learn the key differences between marginal and effective tax rates and why people who retire today pay much less tax than in decades prior. You’ll also hear about the four income “levers” you can pull in retirement, when income tax and capital gains tax kick in, and how to build the most tax-friendly withdrawal strategy possible! In This Episode We Cover Why taxes in retirement aren’t nearly as bad as you probably think A step-by-step walkthrough of Mark’s free retirement tax spreadsheet How the United States’ progressive income tax system works Marginal and effective tax rates explained (and how they impact your tax burden) The four income “levers” you can pull in retirement (and how each is taxed) How taxes impact the safe withdrawal rate (and why the 4% rule works) And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-642 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 20 May 2025

Scott Steps Down as CEO: A New Age for BiggerPockets Money

BiggerPockets’ CEO Scott Trench announces his decision to step down as CEO, and focus full-time efforts on personal finance content with BiggerPockets Money. We also welcome BiggerPockets’ new CEO, Ale Ayestaran. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 16 May 2025

JL Collins: The “Simple” Path to Wealth, FIRE, and Stress-Free Investing

The Simple Path to Wealth is arguably the most influential book in the FIRE movement. JL Collins, its author, is revered among early retirees as one of the trailblazers for FIRE, showing that anyone, with the right investing consistency, can reach financial independence WITHOUT complicated investing strategies, risky alternative assets, or individual stock picking. This is THE simplest way to wealth, but does it still work in 2025? To see, we had to ask the man himself. So, back again, is JL Collins! Today, we’re answering the big questions many FIRE chasers still ask. What’s the right portfolio balance when growing wealth vs. retiring, does JL hold bonds or 100% index funds, should we be worried about all-time-high price-to-earnings ratios, and do you EVER need to rebalance your portfolio? JL answers them all, plus gives Scott his honest take on what a market crash would mean for his portfolio. But what about real estate, cryptocurrency, and other alternative assets? Is there any space in your portfolio for those, or should you only invest in index funds and bonds? JL has some advice you might not expect, but it could help you if you’re itching to diversify.  Want to learn more about The Simple Path to Wealth? Pre-order the updated version, The Simple Path to Wealth (Revised & Expanded 2025 Edition), today!  In This Episode We Cover The “simple” path to wealth, FIRE, and early retirement explained  JL’s exact stock/bond ratio while in retirement (and where yours should be) Are Scott’s concerns about price-to-earnings ratios valid? JL shares his view When to rebalance your portfolio and why “set it and forget it” investing WON’T work REITs, real estate, and crypto: does JL invest in ANY of these alternative assets (and should you)?  And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook Subscribe to the BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel! The Simple Path to Wealth (Revised & Expanded 2025 Edition) How I Lost Money in Real Estate Before It Was Fashionable Grab “The Simple Path to Wealth (Revised & Expanded 2025 Edition)” Get to FIRE Faster with “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Property Manager Finder The Simple Path to Wealth—Index Funds Explained with JL Collins Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-640 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 13 May 2025

How to Create Huge Tax Savings Funding Your Kid’s College (& FIRE on Time!)

Paying for college is one of the biggest financial hurdles families face—even as you’re chasing or approaching FIRE. What’s the smartest way to save for higher education while also securing your financial future? Scott, Mindy, and Amberly are breaking it all down on today’s episode! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! There are several ways to fund your child’s education, and if you’re actively building wealth, you likely have even more options at your disposal. We’ll show you how to find “free” money through government grants and scholarships, but since these could be off the table for those who are pursuing financial independence, we’ll also compare popular college savings accounts—like the 529 college savings plan and UTMA (Uniform Transfer to Minors Act) account. If you want to limit your tax liability, one option reigns supreme! We know this is a personal decision, and you shouldn’t be guilted into one direction or the other. Whether you’re saving for your own children, your grandkids, or just curious about how to balance college tuition costs with FIRE goals, we’ll equip you with a practical roadmap for funding education on your own terms—one that keeps you on track to retire early! In This Episode We Cover How Scott, Mindy, and Amberly are funding their children’s college education The pros and cons of 529 college savings plans versus UTMA accounts How to uncover “free money” to help pay for college tuition costs State-specific tax benefits to keep in mind when contributing to a 529 plan Securing your financial future before saving for higher education And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-639 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 9 May 2025

I Retired Early in My 40s WITHOUT Withdrawing from My Portfolio! | Life After FIRE

You CAN retire early in just ten years IF you save and invest enough. Fortunately, your retirement expenses may be less than you think. Chris Luger, from Heavy Metal Money, didn’t think about retiring early until a divorce made him take control of his finances. He realized that the path to early retirement was only ten years away, so he started saving—a lot. Chris managed to save and invest 70% of his income for seven years, and just last year, he pulled the trigger and retired! And here’s the kicker—Chris isn’t even touching his retirement portfolio. Thanks to a passive income side hustle, he’s funding his lifestyle without drawing down his nest egg. Chris is proof that even after divorce, with kids and an event-packed lifestyle, you CAN afford to retire early. What’s Chris’s investment portfolio made up of? What’s his passive income-producing side hustle? And how does he deal with stock market downturns without losing his head? Chris shares the raw realities of early retirement, the biggest struggles to prepare for, and the one thing that makes FIRE truly amazing once you achieve it. In This Episode We Cover How to retire early in your 40s by supercharging your savings rate  Why you need a passive income stream to have a stress-free FIRE lifestyle  Is a financial advisor worth it? Why Chris is confident in his decision to use an advisor  What you need to prepare for NOW if you’re planning on retiring early  Why Chris is worried about running out of life, not money, in early retirement (and you should be, too) And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook Subscribe to the BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel! Rich Dad Poor Dad Sahil Bloom: The “X Factor” for Financial Freedom and Why FIRE Won’t Make You Happy When You Should (and Shouldn’t) Hire a Financial Advisor | Life After FIRE Heavy Metal Money Maximize Your Real Estate Investing with a Self-Directed IRA from Equity Trust Grab the Personal Finance Classic, “Rich Dad Poor Dad” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Property Manager Finder When You Should (and Shouldn’t) Hire a Financial Advisor | Life After FIRE Connect with Chris Connect with Carl Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-638 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 7 May 2025

The 4% “Rule” is Wrong for FIRE—Here’s a Better Alternative

For decades, the 4% rule has been the calculation every FIRE chaser has used to determine when they can retire early—risk-free. The math is simple: have a portfolio big enough to withdraw 4% per year to fund your lifestyle. But there’s one BIG problem with the 4% rule that nobody is talking about—a problem that could force you to work longer, ruin your retirement lifestyle, and put your portfolio in jeopardy if you don’t plan carefully. Tyler Gardner, former portfolio manager and financial advisor, is back on the show to share why much of the FIRE community may be wrong about this “rule.” Scared of not having enough to retire, retiring during a market crash, or being forced to be frugal once you leave the workforce? That’s precisely what we’re talking about in today’s episode. The 4% rule has become untouchable within the FIRE movement, but its hard-and-fast downsides may lead to your FIRE’s demise.  Tyler shares what he thinks is the ultimate FIRE portfolio allocation, why he’s way more bullish on stocks and index funds than bonds, EVEN during retirement, and why target date retirement funds—often scoffed at—can actually help protect your portfolio once you FIRE. If you’re planning on retiring early with the 4% rule, think again. All of us have our doubts, and we’re sharing them today.  In This Episode We Cover Why the 4% “rule” is WRONG for most FIRE chasers, and why withdrawing only 4% could be a mistake  The new (updated!) FIRE number that most people should be chasing  Hate your job and want to retire early? Here’s why you should find a better career (NOT quit) instead  The ultimate FIRE portfolio allocation and why a target date retirement fund actually makes sense for many  And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook Subscribe to the BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel! Connect with Tyler on Instagram Connect with Tyler on TikTok Your Money Guide on the Side Podcast Want to FIRE in 2025? How to Prepare for Early Retirement w/Emma von Weise Maximize Your Real Estate Investing with a Self-Directed IRA from Equity Trust Get to FIRE Faster with “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area (00:00) Intro (02:05) Is the 4% Rule Wrong?(06:05) This Saves Your FIRE (10:09) “One More Year” Syndrome(14:33) Healthcare in Early Retirement(16:34) Ultimate FIRE Portfolio Allocation(24:29) Include Real Estate?(29:49) Target Date Retirement Funds(36:25) Don’t Quit Working? (54:30) Find a Job You LOVE(57:02) Connect with Tyler!(58:30) FIRE Chasers Are Wrong! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-637 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2025

How to Build (and Enjoy) Your “Dream” Life in Early Retirement | Life After FIRE

What if you reached financial independence…before knowing what it was? That’s what happened to Chris Rusin. After discovering the FIRE movement and stumbling across Mindy and Carl’s blog, he realized he was already at his goal. Then, early retirement unlocked a new life full of wild adventures, creative rebirth, and deeper purpose! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Chris had been hustling, saving money, and chasing financial freedom for years before experiencing a big wake-up call. He encountered a half-billionaire who, despite “having it all,” was deeply unhappy and filled with regret. That moment sparked a shift—not toward more money, but toward more meaning. Since then, Chris has dived for treasure with Navy SEALs, unearthed dinosaur fossils, and much more—all before turning 50! But he’s also faced his fair share of fear and uncertainty. After receiving a cancer diagnosis and losing his voice to chemotherapy, he made a promise: if his voice came back, he’d finally record the album he’d dreamed of making. And he did. Stick around till the very end to hear the “world premiere” of Chris’ brand-new song! In This Episode We Cover What really happens after you achieve financial independence Designing your “dream” life once you reach early retirement How to maintain a sense of purpose after retiring from your nine-to-five The secret to weathering major portfolio swings in retirement A BiggerPockets-exclusive live rendition of Chris’ brand-new song And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-636 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 2 May 2025

The Single Biggest Risk That Could Stop Your Early Retirement (& How to Dodge It)

You’re part of the FIRE movement (financial independence, retire early) so you can quit your job, have complete time freedom, and truly enjoy your life. But what if early retirement isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be? What if you grind for years or decades, reach your FIRE number, quit your job, and realize… you’re bored? Your schedule is wide open, but what do you fill it with? You start asking yourself, “Did I pursue FIRE for financial freedom—or to escape something else entirely?”  Tyler Gardner, former portfolio manager and financial advisor, has seen the toxic side of FIRE far too often. Tyler believes that working on something you love can be far more meaningful than early retirement, and he might be right. Early retirees often struggle with their post-career lifestyle, and many find they can’t thrive without meaningful work. This identity shift can cause profound dissatisfaction, even after so much sacrifice to get to this point. Tyler’s advice: slowly phase out of work or have other income streams that can keep you going, not just for your mental health but your portfolio’s health. So, how do you do that? Mindy, Scott, and Tyler have a meaningful debate, with significant disagreements, on the best way to phase out full-time work, why a 100% stock portfolio may be safer than you thought, and the toxic side of FIRE nobody talks about. In This Episode We Cover The problem with FIRE and why early retirement won’t solve everything The #1 risk early retirees are NOT prepared for and how to ensure you keep your FIRE blazing How to phase out of work even if you have a demanding, full-time, 40+ hours per week job  Why working during early retirement is not a bad thing and has massive benefits  Creating cash flow before you retire and how to minimize the dreaded “sequence of returns risk” And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠ and ⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-635 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 29 April 2025

We Paid Off $500K in Debt: Now We’re on Track to Retire (Early) in Our 50s

Fear that early retirement is out of the question because you have too much debt? It’s not game over. Whether you’re debt-free or still chipping away at your student loans, today’s guests are proof that FIRE is never too far out of reach—even if you’ve got half a million dollars in debt! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Amirra and Mazi Condelee’s first date was an all-timer. While many consider personal finance a taboo topic, they cut right to the money talk—specifically, debt. And it was a good thing they did because they’ve racked up a combined $500,000 in student debt. Most would assume this spells doom for financial independence, but Amirra and Mazi knew they could pay it off by increasing their income, cutting costs, and staying disciplined. In just five years, they’ve snowballed out of student loan debt and toward their long-term goal—retiring in their 50s. Now that this power couple is nearly debt-free, they’re focused on saving for retirement. Tune in to learn what they still need to do to reach their (high) FIRE number, why they refuse to downsize their dreams, and how they plan to spend their retirement! In This Episode We Cover How Amirra and Mazi crushed $500,000 in student loan debt in just five years Best practices for paying off debt and fast-tracking financial independence How to determine whether your FIRE number is too high (or low!) The money conversations you and your partner NEED to have How to “travel hack” your way to FREE vacations (without spending more) And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-634 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 25 April 2025

Healthcare Hacks That Could Save You Thousands on the Journey to FIRE

Wealth and health are closely intertwined, especially here in the US, where the high cost of healthcare can put significant financial pressure on families. But is there a remedy to these exorbitant expenses that Americans are missing? Stay tuned and we’ll show you how to negotiate your medical bills—even if you’ve reached FIRE! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Unpredictable healthcare costs keep many would-be retirees tethered to their nine-to-five jobs, but today’s guest has a solution. Jared Walker founded Dollar For, a nonprofit organization that has helped erase over $83 million in medical costs for everyday Americans. How? The Affordable Care Act (ACA) requires many healthcare providers to offer a program that discounts costs for patients, so Jared and his team simply use it to negotiate people’s medical bills on their behalf. High healthcare costs affect everyone, whether you’re facing hardship, trying to reach financial independence, or already retired. In this episode, Jared will share tips anyone can use to minimize their healthcare costs and negotiate their own medical bills! In This Episode We Cover How to negotiate and lower your medical bills (even if you’re retired) Saving thousands on healthcare with this Affordable Care Act (ACA) program How to use cash payments as leverage when negotiating medical debt The healthcare “hack” that helps you spot erroneous or exorbitant charges The two best ways to proactively minimize healthcare costs And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-633 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2025

The Financial Order of Operations for FIRE (Step-by-Step Early Retirement Plan)

Most people chasing FIRE (financial independence, retire early) are doing it all out of order, and it’s costing them years of financial freedom. So, we thought, “What’s the fastest way to achieve FIRE, and which steps would you take if you were starting from scratch?” Today, we’re bringing you a supercharged financial independence plan, sharing the exact financial order of operations that’ll take you from a $1,000 emergency fund to fully-fledged early retirement. We know the steps because we’re reverse-engineering our own paths to financial independence, and we WISH we had done some of these earlier. If you’re a beginner in the FIRE movement, start here and work through these steps to FIRE the fastest. If you’re close to FIRE already or at a significant financial milestone, don’t worry. We have tips you can use right now to retire earlier and avoid the “middle-class trap” that kills so many FIRE dreams. We’re going through retirement accounts, emergency funds, cash-flowing investments, and side hustles to help you earn more. Plus, what to do once you make TOO much money to invest in tax-advantaged retirement accounts. In This Episode We Cover The exact financial order of operations to reach financial independence fastest  The bare minimum emergency fund you should have in your bank account at all times  How to calculate your FIRE number in five seconds so you know your goal What to do when you make TOO much money to invest in a Roth IRA When to STOP investing in retirement accounts to avoid the middle-class trap Moves to make as soon as you’re retired early that’ll make your FIRE last even longer  And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-632 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 18 April 2025

The “Silver Lining” for Investors After a Historic Week for Stocks| Life After FIRE

We’re coming off one of the wildest weeks in stock market history. How are retirees reacting to these massive swings? How should you adjust your FIRE portfolio in case there are even more turbulent times ahead? We’re chatting with someone who’s in the loop! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Today, Emma von Weise, certified financial planner (CFP), returns to the show to give her perspective on the recent stock market volatility. She’ll share what her clients are doing and the course of action she recommends for those who are worried about their nest egg crumbling. Times like these prove you need an investment plan. If you don’t already have one, Emma will show you how to create it. You’ll also learn how a few years of cash distributions can help you protect your investments and keep you from selling stocks at a loss. Are bonds actually a “safe haven” for investors? We’ll make sense of rising yields and, finally, share a tax strategy YOU can take advantage of during a stock market slide to trim your taxable income! In This Episode We Cover How to adjust your FIRE portfolio after recent stock market volatility How cash distributions protect retirees from selling stocks low in a downturn Why you need to create an investment plan today (if you don’t have one!) How to balance “growth” and “safety” in your investment portfolio Why bond yields have spiked after a huge sell-off (and whether you should buy) Offsetting capital gains from stocks through tax-loss harvesting And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook Subscribe to the BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel! Get $100 Off Your Ticket to BPCon2025 BiggerPockets Money 120 - Are FIRE Naysayers Bad at Math? Yes. with Michael Kitces “A Guided Meditation for When the Stock Market Is Dropping” Emma’s LinkedIn Fine-Tune Your FIRE Portfolio with “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area BiggerPockets Money 120 - Are FIRE Naysayers Bad at Math? Yes. with Michael Kitces Connect with Carl Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-631 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 16 April 2025

Early Retirement “Traps” That Delayed My FIRE by a Decade

Early retirement in your 50s is a dream for most Americans, but today’s guest is sharing how she could have retired in her 40s, a decade earlier, if she had avoided these FIRE “traps.” Yes, it IS possible to FIRE in your 40s even with much of your money in retirement accounts. “But I thought you couldn’t take out that money until you’re 59.5?” That’s where you’re wrong, and today, Diana Hummel is showing YOU how to withdraw from your retirement accounts even earlier. In her mid-30s, Diana had a huge wake-up call. Her parents, who had just retired, suddenly passed away. This lit a flame that would eventually ignite a full FIRE under Diana to live life on her terms well before the standard retirement age. She and her husband saved diligently, invested heavily, and were able to quit their jobs at 45, starting two businesses, one of which broke even while the other turned a profit. The problem? Diana most likely had enough money to retire once she quit her W2, but she didn’t realize she could FIRE so early. Thanks to Roth conversions, 72(t) strategies, and smart tax planning, Diana is fully retired and ready to teach you how to FIRE faster! In This Episode We Cover How to withdraw from retirement accounts early and FIRE in your 40s or 50s  The 72(t) strategy explained and using your 401(k) to retire early (seriously!)  Early retirement healthcare and how Diana is covering it with pre-existing conditions  Retiring during a stock market crash and how new retirees can handle 2025’s bumpy market  The biggest FIRE regret Diana has and a lesson you should learn before you retire (early) And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-630 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2025

How to FIRE in Your 40s on a Teacher’s Salary (or Average Income) (Finance Friday)

Is it possible to reach FIRE by 45, even on a teacher’s salary or an average income? Today’s guest is proving that, yes, you can retire early, regardless of your paycheck. It may be a little harder than it is for high-income earners, but with frugality, discipline, and smart investments, regular people can achieve FIRE! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! At just 31 years old, Kat has been diligently maxing out her retirement accounts, saving a ton of cash, and making enormous strides towards retiring by age 45. Most would say this is a long shot for someone with a teacher’s salary, but thanks to a high savings rate and savvy financial decisions, Kat is right on track to reach her lofty goal. The real question is, should she? Kat will need to grind for the next 15 years to retire on her original timeline. Is it worth taking an extra couple of years to reach financial independence if it prevents burnout? In this episode, Mindy and Amberly will break down Kat’s options, help her avoid the dreaded middle-class trap, and give her a roadmap for achieving FIRE quickly while also enjoying the journey! In This Episode We Cover Kat’s roadmap to FIRE by age 45 (on a teacher’s salary!) Why you DON’T need to be a high income earner to retire early When to stop contributing to retirement accounts and pivot to other investments Giving yourself financial flexibility by saving cash (and how to deploy it) When you should (and shouldn’t) pay off your mortgage early Why it’s worth taking extra time to enjoy the journey to financial independence And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook Subscribe to the BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel! The Simple Path to Wealth The Fioneers Coast FI Calculator FIRE Faster with the Book, “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area BiggerPockets Money 259 - Pensions 101: Are Pensions Worth It? w/ Grumpus Maximus Connect with Amberly Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-629 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 11 April 2025

Tariffs Pause, Stocks Erupt, But the Volatility Could Be Far From Over

Tariffs are now on PAUSE! And just like that, the stock market is flying back up again. Is this a signal for us all to breathe a sigh of relief, or is more market volatility coming our way? It’s been a wild week so far, and it’s only Thursday! Just yesterday, President Trump paused new reciprocal tariffs on dozens of countries, with markets slingshotting back up as a response. So, are we doing anything different with our investments now that things are slightly more stable? We’ve got Amberly, Mindy, and Scott (with a mustache!) on the show to discuss how these new tariff pauses have affected their investments, portfolio, and FIRE investing plans. Amberly, our Canadian of the group, brings a valuable view as someone who is directly seeing how US tariffs impacted her country. Will America remain the economic superpower we’ve long been, or will tariffed countries quickly form new alliances? Is that good for YOUR future investments?  What about interest rates? With more theories that President Trump is making these moves to lower rates, could your next mortgage get more affordable? Or, will lower rates plus tariffs trigger serious inflation—or potentially even deflation? This news brings a lot of “what ifs,” and if you’re confused, fret not; we’ll explain it in this bonus episode.  In This Episode We Cover The new tariff pause and why markets sprung up (massively!) on Wednesday  How we’re investing (right now) during all this stock market hysteria  The long-term trade risks that affect all Americans after these recent tariff proposals  Will interest rates fall with this much volatility; could a new Fed chair force lower rates? One major flaw with the “manufacturing boost” theory that comes with new tariffs  Incoming inflation AND deflation risks as prices rise but American budgets shrink  And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 10 April 2025

The #1 Thing That Made Our FIRE Grind Easier (and More Fun!) | Life After FIRE

The path to FIRE (financial independence, retire early) isn’t easy. You’re working a lot, saving a lot, all while seeing many of your friends out traveling, buying new cars and bigger homes, leaving you feeling isolated on the path to early retirement. But it doesn’t have to be that way. There are FIRE freaks, just like you, all over the country, and before you quit the path to FIRE and start spending to impress your friends, we have a crucial piece of advice: find your FIRE community! Mindy and Carl just came back from the EconoMe Conference, a three-day celebration of those chasing financial independence and early retirement, where you can meet new FI friends and rediscover why you’re after FIRE in the first place. But you DON’T have to wait until next year to go to a FIRE event; we’re sharing exactly how to find your FIRE tribe today. Attending these events was one of the—if not THE—single most impactful parts of Mindy and Carl’s journey to early retirement as they often unlock new FIRE strategies you didn’t know were possible, allow you to grind side-by-side with FIRE-minded people just like you, and give you a sense of strong community that’s behind you EVERY step of the way, even during life after FIRE! Do NOT skip out on this, or you could risk your FIRE! In This Episode We Cover The #1 way to stay motivated while on the path to financial freedom  The best big and small FIRE events to attend this year and next  What to do if you’re introverted and struggle at live events with many people  How to find your local FI meetup so you can make new FI friends  Want to meet Mindy and Carl in person? We’re sharing how you can! And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-627 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 10 April 2025

I FIREd with Index Funds, She FIREd with Rentals: Which is Better (& Faster)?

There’s no arguing that real estate and stocks are the two most proven ways to build wealth, but which one comes out on top in a race to FIRE? Stay tuned as we put these investment vehicles to the test and show you the fastest path to early retirement! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Today, Mindy and guest co-host Amberly Grant are pitting real estate investing and stock investing against each other to determine which of these popular investments is most FIRE-friendly. The best part? They don’t exactly agree! First, Amberly will defend the position of real estate investing. From house hacking and live-in flips to out-of-state investing, there are several strategies you can use to create monthly cash flow, build wealth through appreciation, and save a fortune on taxes! Meanwhile, Mindy will defend her time-tested stock investing strategy. Along the way, she’ll share the many advantages of passive investing, compare 60/40 and 90/10 stock-to-bond investment portfolios, and show you the ideal portfolio mix for those who plan to retire on the 4% rule. YOU decide which of our financially independent hosts has the strongest case! In This Episode We Cover Real estate versus stocks (and which will help you FIRE faster) How YOU can “live for free” with the house hacking strategy Saving hundreds of thousands in taxes with the live-in flip strategy How to turn your rental properties passive by investing out of state The perfect stock portfolio allocation for retiring on the 4% rule And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-626 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025

Teacher ($44K/Year Income) FIREs in 10 Years Making the RIGHT Sacrifices

You may not make six figures, but you want to achieve FIRE and retire early. You might be struggling to get by, let alone saving and investing to hit your FIRE number. If it seems impossible, you should take a page from Bryce Stewart’s book. He was a sixth-grade school teacher, making $44,000/year, underwater on his condo purchase, worrying about the bills with one baby and another one on the way. A decade later, he was retired, with more passive income than he could spend. Today, we’re sharing how he did it. Your income is NOT the limiting factor to you achieving FIRE, no matter how much it seems that way. Bryce took a slow and sacrifice-heavy path to early retirement and now makes more than 300% of the combined income of his and his wife’s teacher salaries. He was frugal without a doubt, but focusing on income-generating opportunities is what really slingshotted his net worth, passive income, and FIRE timeline.  So, what money move should you make RIGHT now to turn your median salary into investments that pay you passive income every month? What sacrifices should you be making to put your family in a FIRE financial position? What was the one purchase that launched Bryce’s path to FIRE? Whether you’re making under, over, or around six figures, you can retire earlier by taking Bryce’s advice.  In This Episode We Cover The one investment Bryce made that helped him get to FIRE in 10 years  Building multiple income streams so you’re NOT reliant on your job  Why house hacking (living for free) is the ULTIMATE FIRE super-charger  Investments to make with a low/median income that will get you to FIRE faster The #1 reason you should NOT tell your partner about your FIRE dreams…yet And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-625 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 4 April 2025

FIRE at 50 by Creating “FI Paychecks” That Fund My Early Retirement! | Life After FIRE

Would you delay your early retirement for years to feel safer and secure once you FIRE? That’s what Mark Trautman did, FIRE-ing before discovering the FIRE movement was even a thing. While he could have retired in his 40s, Mark pushed his retirement date to 50, retiring with a conservative withdrawal schedule that even beats the 4% rule. But, thanks to being invested throughout his retirement, Mark has blown past even his Fat FIRE dreams, spending what he wants, when he wants, without a worry! But it wasn’t the money that made Mark thankful for FIRE. Mark was able to be right next to his wife and even his father during their last days, being fully dedicated to them and not worrying about a job or paycheck he had to go after. This is the TRUE point of FIRE, and living like Mark could have the same powerful impact on you. Speaking of paychecks, Mark’s “FI paychecks” are fueling his retirement, so much so that he barely (if ever) needs to withdraw from his retirement portfolio. How is this completely passive cash flow funding his life? Copy Mark’s strategy, and you could be Fat FIRE by 50, too!   In This Episode We Cover The “FI paychecks” you should set up once you’re near early retirement  Why FIRE is about MORE than money; it’s about time with the ones you love  Mark’s “Fun Bucket” for worry-free spending on life-changing experiences  Why delaying your early retirement could help you FIRE without money anxiety  The one inflation/market downturn hedge Mark uses that provides him with passive income  Early retirement healthcare and how Mark pays for health insurance without employment  And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook Subscribe to the BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel! How to Plan for Early Retirement NOW! | Life After FIRE w/Justin Peters Mark’s Money Mind EconoMe Conference Get to FIRE Faster with “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area How to Plan for Early Retirement NOW! | Life After FIRE w/Justin Peters (00:00) Intro (00:53) FIRE at 50! (04:37) Scared to Withdraw for Retirement? (07:59) Super Conservative FI Strategy (12:34) The FI "Paycheck" (13:25) Spending in Early Retirement (15:14) Time Freedom to Care For His Wife (21:42) The "Fun" Bucket (25:24) Market Corrections Are GOOD! (29:41) Add Treasuries to Your FIRE Portfolio? (32:09) FIRE Healthcare (34:46) The FIRE Lifestyle (37:52) Connect with Mark! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-624 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 2 April 2025

Barista FIRE at 36 with ONLY $500K by Trading “Stuff” for Substance

Julie Rose “semi-retired” at just 36 years old with only $500K, trading her corporate job for sunrise safaris in Africa, beach walks in Bali, and mid-day hikes in Mexico.  With “Barista FIRE,” you can retire with a lower FIRE number, still work (minimally) doing what you love, and have almost complete time freedom over your life. Why have FIRE when you can “semi-retire” decades earlier? Plus, your retirement nest egg will be growing in the background, all while you do what you want, when you want, with who you want. Sounds like a dream life, right? Well, you’re not far from it already! After barely scraping by (even with a good job), Julie knew something needed to change, but she wasn’t ready for it. It wasn’t until she got laid off multiple times that she realized it was time to put her financial future in her own hands. This led her down the FIRE movement rabbit hole, getting almost addicted to saving and investing, and finding herself in a position to quit her job and do what she really loves: travel and get PAID to plan trips for others.  Now, she’s Barista FIRE (FIRE with the help of a side hustle), living nomadically for a fraction of the cost of a basic life in the United States!  In This Episode We Cover “Barista FIRE” and the faster way to semi-retire early with a lower FIRE number Why consumerism WON’T fulfill you, but it will make you broke Using side hustles to supercharge your savings rate and investing goals  Building your Barista FIRE income stream BEFORE you quit your job  Early retirement healthcare and how Julie pays just $40/month for coverage Living your best life abroad for a fraction of the cost of living in the States  And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-623 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2025

Can Your FIRE Portfolio Survive a Stock Market Crash?

The stock market is shifting, and your portfolio needs to change NOW if you want to reach or stay FIRE (financial independence, retire early). Many early retirees are sitting anxiously, watching their net worth fall by 10% (or more), making each withdrawal from their portfolio increasingly risky. If you’re close to financial independence or are retired early already, you CANNOT risk losing the gains you’ve worked so hard for. This is what we’re doing NOW to keep our FIRE portfolios crash-resistant. Last month, Scott talked about his big decision to sell off a chunk of his index fund portfolio in fears of overvalued stock prices. What followed? A significant stock sell-off, with some major indexes falling 10% already. Scott urges those close to FIRE to “lock in” their gains and avoid unnecessary risks to push their FIRE numbers higher. So, what did Scott move his money into, and should you do the same? Should you switch to bonds for a safer but lower-return correction hedge? What happens if this stock downturn lasts years? Should someone in their 20s or 30s, just starting on the FIRE path, stop investing or double down? We’re answering all of your burning FIRE questions today!  In This Episode We Cover Why Amy uses a financial advisor to help manage her money in retirement Amy’s journey to financial independence, losing her husband, and retiring early Assets under management (AUM) versus fee-only advisors (and which one to hire!) How to reach your FIRE number sooner through “experimental deprivation” Why you need to have regular money check-ins with your significant other And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel Save $100 on Real Estate’s Biggest Event of the Year, BPCON2025 Get to FIRE Faster with “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area BiggerPockets Real Estate 1,095 - Scott Trench: How I’m Protecting My Money From “Irrational Exuberance” (00:00) Stock Market Update (06:44) Close to FIRE? Do This (14:41) Fix Your FIRE Portfolio (17:20) Lock-In Your FIRE! (19:02) Scott’s 2025 FIRE Portfolio (21:30) Already Retired/FIRE? (23:46) What About Taxes? (28:49) What if This Crash Lasts? (35:00) Start Shifting Toward Retirement Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-622 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 28 March 2025

When You Should (and Shouldn’t) Hire a Financial Advisor | Life After FIRE

Could hiring a financial advisor help you reach financial independence and retire early? This isn’t a popular move in the FIRE community, but it gave today’s guest peace of mind, preserved her wealth, and helped her save on taxes in retirement. Stick around to learn if it’s the right choice for you, too!   Welcome to another episode of “Life After FIRE”! Today, we’re chatting with Amy, who was dealt a set of circumstances that altered her life and retirement plans. Amy and her late husband, Phil, arrived at their FIRE number in 2020. Just as they were preparing for early retirement, Phil tragically passed, and Amy was left to not only navigate a new normal but also take control of her finances. Still reeling from the loss of her husband, Amy hired a financial advisor, which turned out to be one of the best decisions she ever made.   In this episode, Amy shares how she used money check-ins and a year of “experimental deprivation” to speed up her path to retirement. She also discusses the pros and cons of using financial advisors, the differences between the assets-under-management and fee-only models, and how to properly vet an advisor to ensure you’re getting your money’s worth! In This Episode We Cover Why Amy uses a financial advisor to help manage her money in retirement Amy’s journey to financial independence, losing her husband, and retiring early Assets under management (AUM) versus fee-only advisors (and which one to hire!) How to reach your FIRE number sooner through “experimental deprivation” Why you need to have regular money check-ins with your significant other And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-621 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 26 March 2025

Motley Fool’s Ricky Mulvey: Why I’m Buying MORE Stocks Despite Growing Recession Risk

Are we headed right for a recession, or are stocks on sale? We don’t own a crystal ball, but Ricky Mulvey from The Motley Fool is capitalizing on the recent stock market swing by loading up on some of his favorite equities. Stay tuned to find out if now is an ideal time for YOU to “stock up,” too! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! In light of the recent market pullback, Ricky is going to share why he thinks it’s the right time to take advantage of low stock prices. He’ll discuss some of his best bargain buys, his biggest portfolio wins and losses in recent years, and, most importantly, the four-step approach you can use to identify stocks that could be set to soar in 2025. If you’re a regular listener, you know that Scott and Mindy are partial to stashing their money in index funds, sitting back, and watching their wealth snowball over the long haul. You might say that Ricky has a slightly larger appetite for risk, as he isn’t opposed to picking stocks, timing the market, and getting out after three to five years. Stick around to find out if his strategy works! In This Episode We Cover Whether now is the time to buy stocks after the recent market pullback Ricky’s four-step approach to finding value in the stock market Using insider buying activity to find potential investing opportunities How to prevent “tax drag” when buying and selling off stocks Reviewing Ricky’s biggest portfolio wins and losses (Meta, Spotify, and more!) And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel Motley Fool Money Podcast Ricky’s Twitter/X A Simple Path to Wealth One Up on Wall Street Get Fast, Affordable Landlord Insurance with Steadily Get $100 Off Your Tickets to BPCON2025 in Las Vegas, Nevada Grab Scott’s Book, “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area BiggerNews: Real Estate vs. Stocks, the Ultimate Wealth-Building Debate (00:00) Intro (01:09) The Recent Pullback (08:53) Hunting for Value (18:55) Portfolio Wins & Losses (24:58) Holding Periods & “Tax Drag” (30:18) Why Costco Is “Safe” (33:05) How to Pick Stocks (38:50) Connect with Ricky! (40:45) Do Your Research! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-620 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2025

Is the 4% Rule Dead?

Is the 4% rule dead? Most FIRE-chasers are using this retirement rule completely wrong, and it could cost them their financial freedom. With stock prices falling and many Americans fearing another recession, now is the time to tighten up your retirement portfolio and ensure you can survive if stock prices correct or crash. If you get this wrong, you could delay your FIRE for years or have to go back to work mid-retirement. The 4% rule is one of the most bulletproof retirement formulas. It’s simple: Build a portfolio from which you can comfortably withdraw 4% annually. Need $40,000 per year to live? Your FIRE number is $1,000,000. Need $100,000 per year? Then you’re looking at $2,500,000. This math has been checked, double-checked, and triple-checked to withstand even the greatest economic depressions. However, most people have their portfolio set up WRONG, and it could put them at significant risk. So, how do you ENSURE you can retire (early) with the 4% rule? What hedges should you make in your portfolio so your wealth stays afloat even as the economic tide starts to turn? What are Scott and Mindy doing now to prepare for a rocky stock market? Don’t miss this one—it could cost you your FIRE! In This Episode We Cover The 4% rule explained and whether it still works in 2025 and during market downturns  Why your FIRE portfolio is WRONG, and it could be at massive risk right now  How to prepare for an economic downturn to ensure you stay FIREd or on the path to FIRE What Scott is selling and buying right now to protect his wealth (will his strategy work?) Alternatives to the 4% rule that will protect your retirement portfolio even during the greatest of depressions  And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel BiggerPockets Real Estate 1,095 - Scott Trench: How I'm Protecting My Money From “Irrational Exuberance” BiggerPockets Money 120 - Are FIRE Naysayers Bad at Math? Yes. with Michael Kitces The Rational Investor’s Case Against Bitcoin Dow Jones - DJIA - 100 Year Historical Chart Try REsimpli, The Only All-In-One Real Estate Investor CRM Software That Helps You Manage Data, Marketing, Sales, and Operations Get to FIRE Faster with “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area (00:00) Is the 4% Rule Dead? (04:39) You CANNOT FIRE with This (11:42) How to Prepare for Downturns (21:12) Assets That Are At Risk (23:17) What Scott’s Buying/Selling (28:29) Alternatives to 4% Rule Portfolio (34:21) Do You Trust the 4% Rule? Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-619 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 21 March 2025

Losing $150K, Starting Over, and STILL Retiring Early | Life After FIRE

Think you’ve blown your chances of achieving FIRE? You haven’t! Just ask Nik Johnson, who spent years growing his nest egg, only to have it completely wiped out with one bad financial decision. Despite losing everything, he managed to rebuild it from ground zero and still retire early! Welcome to another episode of “Life After FIRE”! Nik and his wife had done everything right. They practiced frugality, saved aggressively, and invested at every opportunity. But everything was turned on its head when Nik decided to empty his retirement accounts and open a car dealership. Within just one year, Nik’s company had gone belly up, and as a result, all the money he had worked so hard to save was gone. It seemed that he had missed his one shot at early retirement, but rather than giving up on that dream, he started over. If he could do it once, he could do it again! So, Nik found a W2 job, picked up a second job to fast-track his savings, and started throwing all his money at retirement accounts and real estate investments, and now, he and his wife are recently retired! Stick around as Nik shows you how to avoid the middle-class trap, what life looks like after FIRE, and the importance of community once you retire! In This Episode We Cover How Nik built, lost, and rebuilt his investments and still achieved FIRE Supercharging your investments by creating extra income streams How not to find seed money for a risky entrepreneurial venture The savvy financial moves Nik made to avoid the middle-class trap What the average “day in the life” of an early retiree looks like Why you need a strong community around you once you retire And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel Everyday Money Heroes Podcast Join a ChooseFI Group Grab the Book, “Set for Life” Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area Buying at the Peak, Surviving a Crash, and STILL Being Able to Quit at 38 Connect with Carl (00:00) Intro (01:22) Growing His “Empire” (08:58) Losing $150K! (12:05) Rebuilding His Wealth (16:48) Life After FIRE (24:20) Nik’s Investment Portfolio (28:34) Connect with Nik! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-618 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 19 March 2025

How to Stay Rich During FIRE by Dodging the 4 Financial “Horsemen”

You’ve worked so hard to finally achieve FIRE (financial independence, retire early); the last thing you want is your wealth to dwindle or disappear entirely. Unknown to most FIRE-chasers, four financial “horsemen” (of the personal finance apocalypse) could steal your wealth right out from under you, without you even realizing it. What are the four horsemen, and how are we protecting our FIRE portfolios from them? To make sure you not only become wealthy but stay wealthy, we brought Whitney Elkins-Hutten, author of Money for Tomorrow, on the show to share the best ways to keep your portfolio safe from the four horsemen. Whitney scaled her portfolio from almost nothing to life-changing wealth, and she could have lost it all if she hadn’t learned how to protect it. Mindy and Scott tag-team to show YOU how to protect your FIRE from these four horsemen, including sharing what they’re doing right now to set themselves up for a successful (and safe) financial future. Don’t let your wealth get drained before OR during FIRE; take these tips to heart ASAP!  In This Episode We Cover The four “horsemen” that could destroy your FIRE lifestyle and disrupt your generational wealth How Whitney went from accidental house flipper to financially-free investor  The overlooked investing “fees” that could cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars Why you’re (probably) paying too much money for insurance (and how to start saving) When (and when not) to pay off debt and which balances to prioritize first And So Much More! Links from the Show Mindy on BiggerPockets Scott on BiggerPockets Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Join BiggerPockets for FREE Email Mindy: [email protected] Email Scott: [email protected] BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group Follow BiggerPockets Money on Instagram “Like” BiggerPockets Money on Facebook BiggerPockets Money YouTube Channel Grab Whitney’s Book “Money for Tomorrow” Save $100 on Real Estate’s Biggest Event of the Year, BPCon2025 Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Money Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area The Points Guy’s Travel Hacking Tips to Fly for FREE in 2025 Connect with Whitney   (00:00) Intro (06:00) "Ownership" Makes You Rich (10:09) Aggressively Investing in Rentals (11:52) This Could Destroy Your Wealth (19:07) Which Debt to Pay Off (23:14) Save Thousands on Insurance (30:23) This Could Delay Your FIRE (37:08) STOP Being Scared of Taxes! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-617 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2025

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