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🗓️ 4 July 2025
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0:00.0 | On episode 649, we talked to John from Equity Trust about 72 Ts. |
0:05.6 | In the middle of that episode, he casually mentioned the Roth Layer Cake. |
0:10.1 | So guess what we're talking about today? |
0:12.0 | The Roth Layer Cake, woohoo! |
0:14.3 | Similar to the 72T strategy, it's a great option for those looking to tap into their retirement accounts before age 59.5. I cannot |
0:22.7 | wait to have John back on. Hello, hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Bigger Pockets |
0:31.4 | Money podcast. My name is Mindy Jensen, and with me as always is my bakery fresh co-host, Scott |
0:36.2 | Trench. Thanks, Mindy. After today's episode, |
0:38.8 | everyone listening is going to be rolling in the dough. Bigger Pockets has a goal of creating one |
0:42.6 | million millionaires. You're in the right place if you want to get your financial house |
0:45.5 | in order because we truly believe financial freedom is attainable for everyone, no matter when |
0:49.4 | or where you're starting. And especially if you have a ton of money in a pre-tax account like a 401k or |
0:55.8 | traditional IRA and want to move it into the holy grail of retirement planning, which is the Roth |
1:00.9 | account. So we are so excited to bring on an expert on this topic, Mr. John Bowens. You've been on |
1:05.7 | a couple times now on Bigger Pockets Money. Welcome back to the Bigger Pockets Money podcast. |
1:09.5 | Yeah, thank you, Scott and Mindy. |
1:11.1 | Always happy to be here. It's especially excited for today's topic, the Roth IRA-layered cake, |
1:17.1 | which is certainly one of my favorite. Awesome. And just to set the stage here, we just came off |
1:21.9 | a discussion again, that was episode 649 of the Bigger Pockets Money podcast, where we discussed |
1:27.0 | at length the concept of the |
1:29.1 | substantially equal periodic payment, also known as a CEP or 72T strategy. |
1:34.4 | And the whole premise of that is if you have a lot of money in a traditional account, |
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