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Betrayal: Weekly

Betrayal: Weekly

iHeartPodcasts and Glass Podcasts

True Crime, Society & Culture, Relationships

3.76.2K Ratings

Overview

Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack. Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone.  This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years.  And make sure to check out Seasons 1-3 of Betrayal, along with Betrayal Weekly Season 1.

168 Episodes

S4: BONUS EP 1 — The Lying Experts

Curious about the psychology of pathological liars, Andrea talks with two leading experts. For more from Dr. Drew Curtis and Dr. Christian Hart, check out their book Big Liars: What Psychological Science Tells Us About Lying and How You Can Avoid Being Duped. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. You can listen to new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 11 July 2025

S4: BONUS EP 1 — Pathological Liars

Curious about the psychology of pathological liars, Andrea talks with two leading experts. For more from Dr. Drew Curtis and Dr. Christian Hart, check out their book Big Liars: What Psychological Science Tells Us About Lying and How You Can Avoid Being Duped. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. You can listen to new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 11 July 2025

S4: E8 — Solace

Karoline unpacks her healing journey with Kristin Snowden, an expert in betrayal trauma recovery.   For resources on betrayal trauma and more from Kristin Snowden, visit kristinsnowden.com. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod.    To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.     You can listen to new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 10 July 2025

S4: E7 — The Golden Few

Joel Kern wasn’t alone in his bad behavior. More allegations of misconduct at the CSPD come to light.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod.    To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.     You can listen to new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 3 July 2025

S4: E6 — Circling the Drain

The Betrayal Team investigates how Joel was able to walk away from the mess he created.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod.    To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.     You can listen to new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 26 June 2025

S4: EP 5 — Fantasy Land

Joel goes to rehab in hopes of saving his career and his marriage. Karoline uncovers new information that further shocks family. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. You can listen new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 19 June 2025

S4: EP 4 — Shock to the Conscience

Internal Affairs investigators question Joel on allegations of misconduct. Will he tell the truth?  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. You can listen new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 12 June 2025

S4: EP 3 — Revisionist History

Karoline reexamines her 20 years of marriage – the life she thought she was living, and the one her husband was hiding just under her nose.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod  To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.  You can listen new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 5 June 2025

S4: EP 2 — Cat and Mouse

The Kern family discovers what Joel was really doing on the clock. The investigation into his misconduct only scratches the surface.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.  You can listen new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 29 May 2025

S4: EP 1 — One of the Good Ones

Karoline built her life around her husband's career as a Colorado Springs police officer. The family was proud of his service, until they learned that the only person he was serving was himself.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.  You can listen new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 22 May 2025

S4: Betrayal Season 4 Trailer

Introducing Betrayal Season 4. Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone.   This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 15 May 2025

S3: BONUS EP 1 — An Update from Stacey and Tyler

Justin Rutherford is appealing his case. Stacey and Tyler discuss how they're processing the news and what the last year has brought them.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 8 May 2025

Betrayal Weekly: Listener Mail - How Do I Help My Friend?

A listener wrote to us with a heartbreaking question: What can I say to my friend who won’t leave an abuser? Is there anything I can say to get through to her?   We bring on survivor Ashley Trujillo from Betrayal Season 2, who’s faced a similar choice, and therapist Jessica Baum to unpack the trauma, denial, and deep attachment that can keep people stuck. For more on attachment and healing, check out Jessica Baum’s book "Anxiously Attached, Becoming More Secure in Life and Love.”    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 1 May 2025

Listener Mail: How Do I Help My Friend?

A listener wrote to us with a heartbreaking question: What can I say to my friend who won’t leave an abuser? Is there anything I can say to get through to her?   We bring on survivor Ashley Trujillo from Betrayal Season 2, who’s faced a similar choice, and therapist Jessica Baum to unpack the trauma, denial, and deep attachment that can keep people stuck. For more on attachment and healing, check out Jessica Baum’s book "Anxiously Attached, Becoming More Secure in Life and Love.”    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 1 May 2025

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 6 - Molly’s Listener Essay

Molly reads her story of resilience and healing after an abusive relationship.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 24 April 2025

BONUS EP 6: Molly’s Listener Essay

Molly reads her story of resilience and healing after an abusive relationship.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 24 April 2025

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 5 - Melissa’s Listener Essay

In our first listener essay, Melissa reads her account of resilience and healing after her father’s betrayal.    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 17 April 2025

BONUS EP 5: Melissa’s Listener Essay

In our first listener essay, Melissa reads her account of resilience and healing after her father’s betrayal.    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 17 April 2025

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 4 - The Science of Storytelling for Trauma Recovery

Clinical psychologist and applied neuroscientist Dr. Kate Truitt shares the powerful science behind telling your story as a method of healing from traumatic events.   To access Dr. Truitt’s “CPR for the Amygdala” exercises, including mindful touch and cognitive distractions, visit Dr. Truitt’s YouTube channel or the free resources section at www.drkatetruitt.com.   Her memoir “Keep Breathing: A Psychologist’s Intimate Journey Through Loss, Trauma, and Rediscovering Life” is available now. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 10 April 2025

BONUS EP 4: The Science of Storytelling for Trauma Recovery

Clinical psychologist and applied neuroscientist Dr. Kate Truitt shares the powerful science behind telling your story as a method of healing from traumatic events.   To access Dr. Truitt’s “CPR for the Amygdala” exercises, including mindful touch and cognitive distractions, visit Dr. Truitt’s YouTube channel or the free resources section at www.drkatetruitt.com.   Her memoir “Keep Breathing: A Psychologist’s Intimate Journey Through Loss, Trauma, and Rediscovering Life” is available now. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 10 April 2025

Betrayal Weekly: Nobody Should Believe Me — S5 E1

If you like our show, we know you'll love this season of Nobody Should Believe Me, produced and hosted by Andrea Dunlop. While we're hard at work bringing you more Betrayal episodes, we’re going to throw it to Andrea Dunlop, who has a story unlike anything we've ever heard.    You can listen to the rest of Nobody Should Believe Me season 5 on all podcast platforms. Andrea Dunlop’s first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 3 April 2025

Nobody Should Believe Me — S5 E1

If you like our show, we know you'll love this season of Nobody Should Believe Me, produced and hosted by Andrea Dunlop. While we're hard at work bringing you more Betrayal episodes, we’re going to throw it to Andrea Dunlop, who has a story unlike anything we've ever heard.    You can listen to the rest of Nobody Should Believe Me season 5 on all podcast platforms. Andrea Dunlop’s first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 3 April 2025

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 3 - Andrea Dunlop in Conversation

In this special crossover episode, author and podcast host Andrea Dunlop sits down with Andrea Gunning for a deep dive into the true crime genre. It’s an unflinching conversation about the responsibility of telling real people’s stories, the limits of media, and what it’s like reporting on a story that hits close to home.   Check out There and Gone: South Street, Andrea Gunning’s investigation into the 20-year disappearance of Richard Petrone and Danielle Imbo.  You can find Andrea Dunlop’s podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, on all platforms. Her first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 27 March 2025

BONUS EP 3: Andrea Dunlop in Conversation

In this special crossover episode, author and podcast host Andrea Dunlop sits down with Andrea Gunning for a deep dive into the true crime genre. It’s an unflinching conversation about the responsibility of telling real people’s stories, the limits of media, and what it’s like reporting on a story that hits close to home.   Check out There and Gone: South Street, Andrea Gunning’s investigation into the 20-year disappearance of Richard Petrone and Danielle Imbo.  You can find Andrea Dunlop’s podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, on all platforms. Her first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 27 March 2025

BONUS EP 2: Andrea Dunlop’s Story

Her sister became someone unrecognizable.   You can find Andrea Dunlop’s podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, on all platforms. Her first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 20 March 2025

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 2 - Andrea Dunlop’s Story

Her sister became someone unrecognizable.   You can find Andrea Dunlop’s podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, on all platforms. Her first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 20 March 2025

BONUS EP 1: Behind the Scenes Q&A

Producer Monique LaBorde comes on mic to bring Andrea some of our most common listener questions. We go behind the scenes to talk about the production process and give you a sneak peek into what’s coming up next on Betrayal. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 13 March 2025

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 1 - Behind the Scenes Q&A

Producer Monique LaBorde comes on mic to bring Andrea some of our most common listener questions. We go behind the scenes to talk about the production process and give you a sneak peek into what’s coming up next on Betrayal. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 13 March 2025

EP 31 – Jan

She lost her husband to a brutal crime, only to realize she never really had him at all.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 March 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 31 – Jan

She lost her husband to a brutal crime, only to realize she never really had him at all.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 March 2025

EP 30 - Tina

Tina is ready to be a mother. But she couldn’t prepare herself for the elaborate deceptions of her baby’s father.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 27 February 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 30 - Tina

Tina is ready to be a mother. But she couldn’t prepare herself for the elaborate deceptions of her baby’s father.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 27 February 2025

EP 29 - Hannah, Pt. 2

In Part 2 of Hannah’s story, we explore what happens to shared memories.    You can find Hannah’s latest books here:  We Are Too Many: A Memoir   If You Love It, Let It Kill You: A Novel   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 20 February 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 29 - Hannah, Pt. 2

In Part 2 of Hannah’s story, we explore what happens to shared memories.    You can find Hannah’s latest books here:  We Are Too Many: A Memoir   If You Love It, Let It Kill You: A Novel   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 20 February 2025

EP 28 – Hannah, Pt. 1

Writer Hannah Pittard discovers that her best friend and her husband are sharing a secret.     You can find Hannah’s latest books here:  We Are Too Many: A Memoir If You Love It, Let It Kill You: A Novel  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 13 February 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 28 – Hannah, Pt. 1

Writer Hannah Pittard discovers that her best friend and her husband are sharing a secret.     You can find Hannah’s latest books here:  We Are Too Many: A Memoir If You Love It, Let It Kill You: A Novel  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 13 February 2025

EP 27 - Abby

Journalist Abby Ellin’s next big story was living in her own home.  You can find Abby’s book Duped here and you can read more of Abby’s work at her website.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 February 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby

Journalist Abby Ellin’s next big story was living in her own home.  You can find Abby’s book Duped here and you can read more of Abby’s work at her website.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 February 2025

Introducing the Burden of Guilt Docuseries

One of Andrea’s favorite true crime podcasts, “Burden of Guilt”, has been turned into a docuseries. You can now stream the complete 3-part series exclusively on Paramount+. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 31 January 2025

EP 26 - Kelsey Pt. 2

"In sickness and in health" takes on new meaning as Kelsey discovers the true nature of Morgan’s illness.    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 30 January 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 26 - Kelsey Pt. 2

"In sickness and in health" takes on new meaning as Kelsey discovers the true nature of Morgan’s illness.    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 30 January 2025

Bonus EP: Burden of Guilt The Docuseries

Betrayal host Andrea Gunning speaks with Burden of Guilt host Nancy Glass about the upcoming three-part docuseries. You can stream, Burden of Guilt starting February 4th on Paramount Plus.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod  If you would like to reach out to the Burden of Guilt Team, email us at [email protected] See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 24 January 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 25 - Kelsey Pt. 1

A relationship is put to the test when Kelsey’s partner receives a terminal diagnosis.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 23 January 2025

EP 25 - Kelsey Pt. 1

A relationship is put to the test when Kelsey’s partner receives a terminal diagnosis.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 23 January 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 24 - Deb

The Canadian police have a 30-year cold case, and only Deb can help them solve it. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 16 January 2025

EP 24 - Deb

The Canadian police have a 30-year cold case, and only Deb can help them solve it. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 16 January 2025

Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn

From swinger’s clubs to country clubs, Dawn and Wes are living large. But a call from the Dallas FBI upends Dawn’s life.  Content Warning: This episode includes descriptions of suicide and suicidal ideation.  If you are experiencing feelings of hopelessness or thinking about ending your own life, you are not alone. Help is available. Call or text ‘988’ from anywhere in America to reach the National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 9 January 2025

EP 23 - Dawn

From swinger’s clubs to country clubs, Dawn and Wes are living large. But a call from the Dallas FBI upends Dawn’s life.  Content Warning: This episode includes descriptions of suicide and suicidal ideation.  If you are experiencing feelings of hopelessness or thinking about ending your own life, you are not alone. Help is available. Call or text ‘988’ from anywhere in America to reach the National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 9 January 2025

Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah

Death brings an avalanche of discoveries about the man Torrah thought she knew.    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 2 January 2025

RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah

Death brings an avalanche of discoveries about the man Torrah thought she knew.    If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected]. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 2 January 2025

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