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🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Helen’s world revolved around her mother. After her mom passes, she leaves something behind that reshapes Helen’s past and challenges her understanding of who her mom truly was.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.4 | There's this feeling that moms are good. |
| 0:09.8 | No matter what, moms are good. |
| 0:12.1 | Even if they do the wrong thing, it's because they love you so much. |
| 0:16.6 | If you need to accept the lie to live, then you accept the lie. |
| 0:33.5 | I'm Andre Gunning and this is Betrayal, a show about the people we trust the most and the |
| 0:39.6 | deceptions that change everything. |
| 0:45.4 | Today we're telling Helen Naylor's story. |
| 0:48.5 | Helen grew up in the Midlands of the UK. |
| 0:51.1 | The place where I was born was a really little town. |
| 0:55.0 | So you basically knew everybody and I'd walk through town and bump into ten people I knew. |
| 1:01.0 | She was an only child. |
| 1:03.0 | Her parents were Eleanor and Alan. |
| 1:05.0 | We lived in a really nice three bedroom semi-detached, which was painted yellow with a bright blue door. |
| 1:13.4 | They have very 70s taste in decor, |
| 1:17.3 | so it's like swirly brown carpets, |
| 1:20.0 | and very peach. |
| 1:22.1 | If there was a colour choice, it was peach. |
| 1:25.2 | Helen's parents were older than her friend's parents. |
| 1:28.4 | Mum was 35 when she had me. My dad was over 40. And at the time, that was quite a big deal. |
| 1:37.2 | Helen was very young when her dad's health took a turn for the worse. When I was seven, my dad was |
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