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Betrayal Weekly

The Making of Season 5 | BONUS

Betrayal Weekly

iHeartPodcasts | Glass Podcasts

Relationships, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.28.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

The Betrayal team takes you behind the scenes of Season 5 – unpacking how Saskia’s story came to be, and all the memorable moments along the way.   

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:14.7

I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is betrayal.

0:17.7

Today, we have another bonus episode.

0:21.1

Now that season five is over, I wanted to get the whole team together, our producers,

0:25.9

our editors, to talk about how the season came to be and all of the moments that stuck with us

0:31.2

along the way. Here's our conversation.

0:34.4

Hi, everybody.

0:35.9

Hi. Hi.

0:47.3

We did this last year where after we released season four, we got together and talked about all of our favorite moments, what it was like producing the season. And I thought that it would be kind of fun to do it again. Maybe where we can start is going around and everyone introduce themselves and tell a little bit

0:58.3

about how you worked on the show. Yeah, sure. Hi, I'm Caitlin Golden and I helped to produce this

1:04.9

season. Hi, I'm Carrie Hartman, also a producer. I'm Monique Laborde. I'm the story editor on the last two seasons of

1:12.7

betrayal. I'm Matt Del Vickie. I am a sound engineer on betrayal. And I'm Tanner Robbins. I am one of

1:22.7

the audio editors. I think a really great place to start is how we found the story in the first place.

1:31.4

I think this question goes to Caitlin.

1:33.5

Can you tell us a little bit about how this season and how Saskia's story came to be?

1:38.7

Yeah, I started at Glass about two years ago as an associate producer when Carrie and Mo were running production

1:49.1

on betrayal. And one of my big jobs was going through the email inbox where people, you know,

1:55.4

write in with their thoughts about the show, but also kind of most importantly, they're writing

2:00.1

with their own stories of betrayal.

2:03.2

So Saskia, she sent an email September 24, which is the same month that Giselle Pelico went to

2:09.2

trial for the rape case of her husband. I actually pulled up her initial email. I want to read it.

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