Hello there. Welcome back to Run Pod, where runners unite all of them. Fast, slow, gazelles, plodders. I'm Jenny Faulkner, and I'm delighted this week to have a friend of mine as a guest and talk all things running. She's someone you will probably have heard on the radio. Her gorgeous voice is on

heart. But more than that, she also has a huge parenting podcast with her friend Georgie. It's

made by mamas. You might well have listened to that too. She's been on screen for years. She's

someone you know, it's Zoe Hardman. Hello. Yeah, I love the intro. It's normally me doing intro, so I was quite looking forward to that.

I know it's so strange. When you've got your own podcast and then you're introduced on someone else's,

I don't know about you, but I'm also someone that doesn't like other people asking the questions.

Are you going to be difficult here?

No, no. I'm really looking forward to it actually. Well, you said that.

When you came on our podcast, you were like, I'm really not used to this. Because actually,

I'd never heard you speaking about being a mum, except for like conversations that we'd had. So,

yeah, no, I'm looking forward to this. Try and just try and stop me. Okay. Well, I mean, I know that

you've been going out running quite a lot, But it is nice to talk about fitness and exercise, because ultimately, before you were a mum, before you had, you know, had your kids and got married,

you were always doing exercise anyway. So it's something that's like a real passion of yours.

Yeah. I was thinking about this this morning because I was really looking forward to doing this chat.

Exercise for me has been something that I've done since I can remember. It was such a huge part of my upbringing. You know, we were always outside, running around in the fields, climbing trees. I had a really idyllic childhood, which involved being outside a lot. We were spending a lot of time in Kenya. I started running when I was really young. I started competing at school. You know, I was doing athletics and rounders and, you know, hockey, netball, you name it, I was doing it.

And 800 metre running was always my thing growing up.

So, you know, for me, it was like there wasn't, it wasn't one of those moments where I suddenly thought, well, I'm 21 now.

I should probably start doing some exercise.

It was like, if I don't exercise, it wouldn't be my life, you know?

It's so much intrinsically part of my makeup and who I am, and it makes me feel so amazing.

And on the days that I don't get to exercise, I definitely feel a dip.

So, yeah, and running, you know, I've been on such an incredible journey with my running, with all my injuries and, you know, now feeling in a place where I'm sort of getting back. It's so exciting. I love it. I was saying to Dozie yesterday how much, how happy I am at the moment because I'm back road running.

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