Hello there, I'm Jenny Faulkner.

Welcome to Run Pod, where every week we discuss running, all elements of it, from tips

to improve to hearing how discovering running has helped change the lives of some people,

perhaps as an opportunity to switch things up and find a better you, maybe to get fitter, emotionally,

physically or mentally. Now, we hear a lot about the latter. Looking after your mental

health is a huge reason to run for many people and they say that you can't judge a book by its

cover. You can't tell if someone is struggling underneath. Well, today I

have joined by a brilliant guest and a man who knows about this struggle. We will talk about it.

We will also talk about his running. It is Jake Tyler. Hello there. Hello there.

Welcome along. So nice to have you on Rompad. Yeah, it's great to be here.

Thanks for asking me on.

That's all right.

And I've been watching you kind of doing the rounds because you've been out promoting your book.

And I've been watching you do the rounds quite a lot recently.

And then I lost myself yesterday in your Instagram.

I mean, I completely got absorbed at it. And I was looking at all the places you've been to and all the shots of you doing

a lot of hiking and just in your hiking kit loaded down with rucksack and everything. And we will

talk about that as well. But there was one post I saw from last year, Jake. And you said this.

You went, I went for a run for the first time in months yesterday and it was a bunch of old

pants. I genuinely felt like stopping a mile in months yesterday and I was a bunch of old pants.

I genuinely felt like stopping a mile in.

I had to slow to a walk three times.

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