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#Ukraine: Brussels POV: Professor H.J. Mackinder, International Relations. #FriendsofHistoryDebatingSociety

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🗓️ 25 June 2023

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#Ukraine: Brussels POV: Professor H.J. Mackinder, International Relations. #FriendsofHistoryDebatingSociety

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/russia-ukraine-war/

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0:00.0

This is the Friends Vistula Debating Society. I'm John Bachelor with Professor H.J. McHunder and a

0:04.9

National Relations Generously Commanding on six capital six points of view. There was the

0:09.6

Fog of War. Now there's the Fog of Mutiny, Rebellion, Koo, and Momentary Time Out in the affairs

0:18.8

that were leading to a confrontation on the M4 road to Moscow. Now we're told the

0:24.8

Pregozion and his private army are going to Belarus, which is commanded by a dictator named

0:31.3

Lukashenko, who works directly with Vladimir Putin, hence the transfer of nuclear weapons

0:38.2

from Russia into Belarus in these last days. Belarus has its own army that has not been committed

0:44.7

to Ukraine's conflict. It also is a staging area for the Russians who move into the north of

0:54.5

Ukraine. However, now Pregozion's headed there. So, Keith is making popcorn. Brussels is not

1:02.8

entertained. We don't have the information, it's very little, but the information that there was

1:09.8

to be a phone call between Rishi Sunak of NATO, head of the UK, Emmanuel Macron, head of France,

1:17.9

Olaf Schultz, head of Germany, and Joe Biden, head of the United States. We had that information

1:24.4

earlier in the day. That is a core of NATO. Professor NATO's point of view knowing it's within

1:32.1

weeks of the Vilnius meeting. I think NATO is caught by surprise. I think that they have not

1:42.0

thought through this particular possibility, which if you know a little Russian history,

1:48.6

you're aware that regime change or constitutionalization, what not, they often takes place, or

1:56.8

after Russia is defeated in a war. But NATO is paralyzed, to some extent, by the powerful

2:05.1

national interests of these countries. I think that in the future there's going to be left

2:10.9

discussion about whether the French are going to send one or two, 155 millimetre howitzers to

2:22.2

Ukraine. Chinese commentators, I listened to a lot, he was saying last night,

2:27.8

boys, the French are such skin flints. I mean, he just has a complete stereotype. But

2:36.4

here's a point. NATO loses its decisive role, it's potentially the decisive role because it has

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