UKRAINE: AND DC. REBECCA GRANT @GORDONGCHANG, GATESTONE, NEWSWEEK, THE HILL
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 16 July 2025
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Island the World. |
| 0:05.8 | I'm John Batchel. |
| 0:07.1 | Rebecca Grant from the Lexington Institute joins to help me clarify something that perhaps doesn't need it. |
| 0:13.6 | The Senate has advanced a bill, maybe 82, maybe 85, Richard Blumenthal and Lindsay Graham to put tariffs on China for trading with Russia |
| 0:26.3 | in the event that Russia does not listen to the president and make peace in Ukraine. |
| 0:30.8 | It's a big number. |
| 0:31.8 | Some say 500. |
| 0:32.9 | Some say 100. |
| 0:33.9 | I need Rebecca's help. |
| 0:35.5 | Rebecca, either of these numbers would crush the Chinese economy. |
| 0:38.6 | What do we know? Good evening to you. Good evening. What I know is what I heard President Trump say to |
| 0:45.2 | NATO Secretary General Margarita on Monday. And that is basically Trump has decided to threaten |
| 0:52.0 | Russia's customers with a 100% tariff if there's not a deal within 50 days. |
| 0:59.0 | The Senate bill that Senators Graham and Blumenthal are co-sponsoring is actually separate. |
| 1:05.0 | And Trump said that bill is still coming along. |
| 1:08.0 | That bill could allow a ceiling of 500% tariffs as a secondary |
| 1:14.0 | sanction. Trump said, you know, he hopes he won't need it, the 500%, but it's there if he does. |
| 1:20.4 | So he's starting position is 100%. But he's also showing the U.S. and the world that he has |
| 1:26.4 | plenty of backing from the Senate to turn the screws on Russia's customers as hard as he's also showing the U.S. and the world that he has plenty of backing from the Senate to turn the screws on Russia's customers as hard as he needs to. |
| 1:32.6 | Gordon, you have a question for Rebecca. |
| 1:35.1 | Rebecca, it would seem to me that if Putin's sources of income, the oil energy, were cut off, if he weren't able to sell oil to China, Russia, Turkey, that |
| 1:47.2 | essentially he would not be able to prosecute the war. Is that right? Or does he have other |
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