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PRC: AND FAKERY. BLAINE HOLT @GORDONGCHANG, GATESTONE, NEWSWEEK, THE HILL

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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PRC: AND FAKERY. BLAINE HOLT @GORDONGCHANG, GATESTONE, NEWSWEEK, THE HILL
1946 MAO AND GEORGE MARSHALL

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Betts with my friend and co-host, Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang.

0:10.3

And the news from Wall Street is that NVIDIA gets permission to sell to China.

0:16.2

NVIDIA is the number one maker of the chips that are said to be the future of American economy

0:22.8

based on artificial intelligence and the need for electricity everywhere.

0:29.0

However, there are other companies right now that are looking to line up behind Nvidia and sell to China.

0:35.2

Despite the fact, it adhered to four,

0:38.2

NVIDIA's chips, AMD's chips,

0:40.0

other chips were considered treasures,

0:42.8

not to be shared with an adversary,

0:45.5

which is what the People's Republic of China now represents.

0:48.7

We welcome retired Air Force General Blaine Holt

0:52.3

to help us with this story

0:53.6

because while NVIDIA gets

0:55.8

permission to sell a rebuilt chip to China, there are stories in all directions about theft

1:02.8

and IP and reproduction.

1:05.7

The one I can tell about NVIDIA, that may be an example, is that in China, they regard the success of deep seek to make the same

1:15.1

large language model generate for much cheaper than chat GPT did they regard that as a great success

1:24.7

they're going to build on when in in fact, I've been told the

1:27.6

story that not only did they steal the large language model from ChachyBT, because the people

1:34.0

who ran that company didn't believe in security back then, but also they used Nvidia chips

1:38.9

that they weren't permitted to have. Now, that's a story. Blaine, a very good evening to you. I tell that whopper that everybody in

1:47.4

China has to pretend that Deep Seek and even Huawei that can claim it can make a chip as good as

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