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Let's Space Studio. Hi, it's Andy here and welcome to Radio Head Space, until Wednesday morning. So I wonder whether you are more of an optimistic person or a pessimistic person.

We'll have days where we're more one or the other, but generally we tend to develop a pattern of one type of thinking over the course of a lifetime.

Not so long ago, a few years back I was with, he was an elderly chap who needed to go into town to get some things.

And he'd experienced, definitely, I would say, a long period of time of negative cycles of thinking.

Got very caught up in his mind and in sort of almost depressive type thoughts.

And as we were driving into town, I was going to help him with some things carry some stuff as we were driving in I suggested a place to park and immediately his answer was there's no point in going there. We'll never get a parking space there. It's always full and I said well you

maybe but maybe not like maybe there will be a space let's just drive past and have a

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