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This Naked Mind Podcast

The Ripple Effect of Quitting Drinking | Meet Our Coaches | E843

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Mental Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

The Ripple Effect of Quitting Drinking | Meet Our Coaches | E843 The ripple effect of quitting drinking—what if it reaches far beyond one empty glass? Coach Pam speaks with TNM Alcohol Freedom Guides, Ruby and Kai, who share how they found their way to freedom with This Naked Mind. As coaches for The Path, they now help others do the same. Ruby, a former wine industry insider, recounts her journey of letting go of the self-blame that kept her stuck, while Kai reflects on the decades she spent using alcohol to quiet her mind and cope with personal challenges. Together, they show how gentle coaching questions reshape beliefs, why connection is the opposite of addiction, and how identity shifts make life bigger and calmer. You’ll get practical tips to turn “data points” into progress, and replace alcohol’s supposed rewards with what you actually need—rest, relief, and connection. In Coach Ruby’s Session: A-Ha Moments - The importance of "aha moments" in personal transformation. Dual Addiction - How her struggles with binge eating and alcohol were intertwined Shedding Shame - The power of letting go of shame and self-blame to find freedom The Power of The Path - How community and connection are the opposite of addiction The Ripple Effect - How her decision to become alcohol-free positively impacted her family and friends It's Never Too Late - Realizing that true change and self-discovery can happen at any age In Coach Kai’s Session: Quietening Inner Voices - Using alcohol from a young age to cope with personal struggles Willpower is Finite - The moment she realized willpower alone wasn't enough to sustain change Scientific Approach - How the analytical, science-based approach of This Naked Mind impacted her You Are Not Broken - The powerful message that it's the alcohol, not the person, that is the problem. Waste No More Time - The life-changing mantra that motivated her to join The Path and not look back Ruby Williams is a certified Naked Mind Senior Coach dedicated to helping people rethink their relationship with alcohol. With 19 years of experience in the wine industry, Ruby understands how alcohol can become a regular part of life, especially in social or stressful situations. After finding freedom in 2019, she was empowered to improve her health, lose weight, and achieve lifelong goals. Ruby uses thoughtful questioning to help clients shift their mindset and build a more balanced, fulfilling, and healthier relationship with alcohol. Learn more about Coach Ruby: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/ruby-williams/ Kai Birdsall, ALPC, is a Certified Naked Mind Coach who helps people change their relationship with alcohol and the habits that keep them stuck. A professional gay woman with a BSc and MBA, she brings 25+ years of corporate leadership to science-based, compassion-led coaching. Kai now supports women in midlife, LGBTQ+ clients, and anyone navigating big transitions—menopause, divorce, illness, career shifts—to manage stress without alcohol and live more authentically. Learn more about Coach Kai: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/kai-birdsall-alpc/ Episode links: nakedmindpath.com Ready to take the next step on your journey? Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious! Quince- Find your fall staples at Quince. Go to Quince.com/naked for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too Hungryroot- Get 40% off your first box + a free item for life at Hungryroot.com/nakedmind with code nakedmind Shopify- Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at Shopify.com/mind BetterHelp- Get 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/nakedmind

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0:00.0

Hi there. This episode is part of our special Meet Our Coaches Spotlight series. I'm Coach Pam,

0:13.1

program and coaching manager here at This Naked Mind. And in this series, I'll be interviewing

0:18.7

each of our coaches inside of the path.

0:21.2

If you've ever wondered what it's like to get real-time support inside the path, stay tuned.

0:28.8

And visit nakedmindpath.com to learn more.

0:34.4

Okay, today we have the amazing, incredible coach Ruby. Coach Ruby, what an honor to be able to

0:42.9

just spend this next little while chatting with you and learning a little bit more about you

0:48.3

and what it's like to coach in the past. So welcome. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here and share my story.

0:55.7

And just thanks, Pam, for making this happen.

0:59.2

I'm so excited.

1:00.4

Yeah, these are a lot of fun.

1:03.1

So I've got a couple of questions for you.

1:05.4

So I'm going to throw them at you one at a time, nothing to earth shattering.

1:10.2

And are you ready to kick off? Absolutely. Let's do this.

1:14.4

Okay. My first question to you is, what was going on in your life that led you to discover this naked

1:22.4

mind? Wow. What a great question. Okay. Well, surprise, surprise. I was drinking too much and realized that

1:33.8

alcohol was a problem. But what I want to share is that, you know, I have, we call this like

1:40.1

dual addictions or multiple addictions. And my first addiction from childhood probably was

1:46.2

was around binge eating or food or numbing my emotions with food. And I ended up gaining a lot of weight.

1:54.3

And it just felt like I didn't ever feel full. And I didn't know what was going on and I ended up having weight

2:03.3

loss surgery and lost a bunch of weight through weight loss surgery but it switched to alcohol.

2:09.6

I definitely was on that trajectory to drinking, you know, becoming like alcohol use disorders

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