The People Puzzle – Understanding your team in a new way

Cat & Cloud Podcast

Cat & Cloud

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4.8 • 727 Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This week we dig into The Predictive Index and how tools like it can help leaders better understand the people on their team. Instead of guessing at strengths, motivations, or communication styles, PI creates a clearer picture of how someone naturally works — and how to set them up for success. We talk about why these insights matter, how they can guide hiring and coaching, and where they fit alongside culture, values, and real-world performance. At its core, this episode is about using data to support people, not define them. PI isn’t a shortcut or a replacement for good leadership; it’s a way to communicate better, set clearer expectations, and build teams that function with more empathy and alignment. When leaders combine tools like this with strong values and intentional culture, they create workplaces where people actually thrive. 🔗 Links – The Predictive Index: https://www.predictiveindex.com/ Cat & Cloud: Instagram www.instagram.com/catcloudcoffee/ Webstore www.catandcloud.com/ We are Cat & Cloud Coffee. Started by three friends trying to pursue their passions with the mission to inspire connection by creating memorable experiences, and we created this podcast to continue forming those connections inside and out of our cafes. The Cat & Cloud podcast was created as a space for us to share our experiences in the coffee industry and starting a business. Each week we sit down to talk about new challenges as business owners, how we utilize our mission and values to make decisions, and answer questions from our listening community. If you’re looking to expand your coffee knowledge, get some advice for your own small business, or just like the vibes, give us a listen! Enjoy!

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0:00.0	We're not as good as 55% of people apparently. But we are better at other things, which is called energy and vibes. The vibes were high. It is a challenging puzzle, though. There is no way around that. It's not a simple puzzle. I was so glad I was watching everybody do that because if I actually had to do that that's just my worst nightmare ever I know you're
0:22.2	like everybody leave I'm gonna work on this alone for a while out of here dude what am I doing here
0:26.5	think this is not my vibe I don't want to do ridiculous things I don't think I don't think you're
0:33.0	alone in that one completely there's a couple people who have that vibe a little bit but not like exactly
0:37.0	oh there's a good handful of people who had that vibe a little bit, but not like exactly.
0:54.0	Oh, there's a good handful of people who were over it. Yeah. Yeah. That's it happens. It's frustration. Everybody's not, you know, in the same vibe of how. They're like, and we have to do this for 45 minutes? Yeah. Yeah. Forget about it. Yeah. It's just an observational opportunity. you know, we got to see some things,
0:55.3	got to watch the dynamics.
0:55.9	It's good.
1:12.2	We have a great team of people who like each other. We do have a great start. We do have a great team of people who like each other and respect each other. Yeah, so everybody, welcome to the podcast. You've heard us riffing and ranting about a game that we played, a puzzle that we tried to put together. Charles Chris and myself actually didn't get to. We just had to observe our team doing it for a offsite that we did with Barry
1:17.8	from predictive index. And predictive index is, um, it's not a higher fighter. It's a training and
1:26.1	development tool that we have decided to bring on that can support,
1:29.9	I think you're and everybody's company in a bunch of different ways,
1:33.3	providing if you decide how you would like to use it.
1:36.6	It's a science-based leadership and training tool that essentially has got like 70 plus years of
1:47.9	psychoanalysis therapy psychiatrist based learning about individuals and their kind of core selves
1:58.8	versus their their their essentially best use of their skill set in a
2:05.9	workplace. And that sounds like it's extremely simple. Well, I don't think it is, right? There's,
2:11.0	there's an idea about who we are as individuals and then the idea around emotional intelligence
2:16.7	and being able to adapt.
2:18.1	So the key thing that everybody needs to take away is that with this tool set that we'll
2:23.9	dive into, one of the big takeaways is anybody can do any job, but who is going to be spending
2:29.2	the most amount of calories and energies doing that job?
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