The Art of Arguing Less and Communicating More w/ Jefferson Fisher | Ep 392

The Futur with Chris Do

The Futur

Arts, Education, Marketing, Design, Business, Self-improvement

4.9 • 998 Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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In this episode, Chris Do sits down with Jefferson Fisher — a fifth-generation trial attorney, bestselling author, and viral communication coach — to explore how to argue less and talk more effectively. Jefferson unpacks the psychology behind calm communication, how to time tough conversations, and why listening before reacting builds deeper trust. Together, they explore practical tools like the “I can tell” phrase, scheduling emotional talks, and using breath to create space in dialogue. His frameworks help listeners become more intentional speakers and better listeners in both professional and personal settings. Timestamps (00:00) - Jefferson Fisher intro + background (02:45) - How to become a better communicator (05:20) - Timing tough conversations right (08:10) - Scheduling hard talks with partners (11:45) - Using “I can tell” effectively (15:25) - Breath control for clear thinking (18:50) - Slowing speech for confidence (22:30) - Tone, emotion, and word delivery (27:05) - Training clients to stay calm (32:40) - Managing nerves under pressure (38:15) - Speaking naturally in high stakes (44:00) - Authenticity vs. performative communication (50:25) - How juries detect fakeness fast (56:10) - Building credibility through presence (01:02:40) - Avoiding over-explaining and rushing (01:09:15) - Staying grounded in conflict (01:15:55) - Key takeaways on communication mastery Register for AdobeMax using the code FUTUR25 for $400 off a full pass. See you there! https://max.adobe.com/?cgen=8RVC4VL9&mv=other Check out today's guest, Jefferson Fisher: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffersonfisher YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXjnpu6lK0HoUyOMh2ZBwhQ Website: ⁠https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher/?hl=en Check out The Futur: Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thefutur.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Courses: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thefutur.com/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Linkedin: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thefutur.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out Chris Do: Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thechrisdo/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Threads:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Zaap: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Clubhouse:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.clubhouse.com/@thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Behance: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.behance.net/chrisdo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	On today's podcast is Jefferson Fisher, who's been able to grow millions of followers on social media,
0:05.4	over 6 million on Instagram and 1.4 on TikTok.
0:08.6	He is the communications expert, and he's a fifth generation attorney.
0:13.1	He's the New York Times bestselling author of The Next Conversation, How You Can Argue Less and Talk More.
0:19.4	And on today's episode, he's going to answer this question that you all have on your mind,
0:24.3	which is, how do you become a better communicator?
0:27.5	How do you find the words and the tone to communicate your true intention?
0:32.3	I'm Jefferson Fisher and you're listening to the future.
0:39.1	My story with you begins with a friend.
0:41.9	His name is Mo, and Mo's like,
0:43.1	you got to check this guy out.
0:44.6	And he sends me one of your clips.
0:46.4	I think it's TikTok originally,
0:48.3	but maybe it was Instagram.
0:49.3	I can't remember.
0:50.4	This is like a little over a year ago.
0:52.3	And I'm watching you deliver something in the car, which is, I think, super hard to do.
0:57.5	It's just you.
0:58.1	I imagine you holding your iPhone or something and you're recording.
1:01.8	And I'm blown away by your communication skills and how warm and earnest you are and how applicable the things that you say are.
1:09.9	So I'm thrilled to have this conversation with you
1:12.0	because I think you're going to help me solve a big problem that I have. People ask me this all
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