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Depresh Mode with John Moe

Terrifying Times for Immigrants in America and Cristina Jimínez is Incredibly Hopeful

Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maximum Fun

Health & Fitness, John Moe, Interview, Comedy Interviews, Comedy, Mental Health

4.9854 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

The immigration advocate, author, and MacArthur recipient talks mental health and positive signs.

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0:00.0

I am here because my parents wanted a better life and a better future and thought that America

0:05.6

was the place to try to get that. My mom had a relative in Tacoma, so they went there first. Not the

0:12.1

first people to do so, to come to a new place for a better life. The Mayflower, people looking for

0:18.6

a better life. 1620, Same idea. Thousands of years before,

0:23.5

Paleo-Indians crossed the land bridge to Alaska. Same idea. People have been doing this since

0:30.4

there were people. Only in the latest sliver of history has there been the construct of documentation paperwork related to this idea.

0:40.8

I live in St. Paul, Minnesota. I've lived here for over 18 years. I've always loved it. I love it more

0:46.8

since January. When ICE agent troops stormed into Minnesota by the thousands, detaining and disappearing scores of people,

0:55.6

killing Renee Good and Alex Pretty. The strategy, I think, on the part of the administration,

1:01.1

was a bet that white people, like me, would turn on our immigrant neighbors,

1:07.6

Somali immigrants, Latin American immigrants, Asian neighbors. They lost that bad.

1:14.7

It's Depression Mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad a lot of people are here.

1:24.0

The surge has, I guess, ebbed a little since the winter, but please know that ice is still in Minnesota,

1:37.4

masked agents still grabbing non-white people, disappearing them without due process.

1:43.7

Minnesota is not alone.

1:45.2

ICE is active all over the country and has been for a while now.

1:48.8

And it's powered by an anti-immigration sentiment and rhetoric coming from those in power.

1:55.8

Immigrants are blamed for higher crime rates, despite overwhelming evidence that the crime rate has always been

2:03.2

much lower among immigrant populations than for the general population.

2:07.7

Again, I'm not present in strategy meetings for these people in power, but another consistent

2:14.1

presence throughout history is to try to make yourselves the good guy by making

2:20.3

someone else the bad guy. And it's easier when that's someone with a lot less power than you,

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